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I'm kinda more curious as how you guys feel as Yankees about the US going to war , whether it's Bush in Iraq or Obama (foolishly, IMO) sending more troops into Afghanistam.
We could have the 'Saddam was a bad guy' argument all day long.
Should the State now go into N. Korea? Iran? Should they bomb China? Cuba?



I opposed the Afghanistan war from the start, as a lot of progressives did. I oppose Obama's escalation. On the other hand, yes, there are neo-cons who believe the U.S. has a Manifest Destiny to spread democracy (and in many minds, Christianity) to the rest of the world. These are the two extremes.

Obama better get out of Afghanistan before 2012 or the majority opinion will be that it is another Vietnam/Iraq/Soviet Afghan experience.

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@Chuck

You still felt worse than Saddam who felt nothing at all. Stalin and Hitler kept the schools open and the trains running on time. I mean if that’s the only criteria you have for someone being a good leader or person. The reason they took the pictures/video in the first place was probably to confirm their identity. What do you expect when you embed media with the troops, the pictures were leaked? Weren’t you one of the people calling for the dead US troops to be shown on TV when they came back home? Seems like a double standard to me. Yes civilians die in war, it’s a terrible fact, but the US didn’t go in there with the intention to murder them, Saddam did.



I felt no remorse for Saddam's sons, I was glad they were gone. And the issue we were addressing is if the Iraqi people are better off now, so of course things like schools and transportation matter. The media didn't leak the photos. After some debate, Rumsfeld et. al. directed that the "Provisional Authority" put them on a CD with other identifying data and gave it to the Iraqis to distribute in the media. And I have never suggested showing the dead bodies of American troops, that is quite wrong. Showing flag covered caskets is all right, and the media should be allowed to let the people know about casualties. IIRC, a picture was published of a dead Marine in Iraq, and I was disturbed about that.

"Yes civilians die in war, it’s a terrible fact, but the US didn’t go in there with the intention to murder them..." that contradicts itself.
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