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#465312 - 12/12/09 12:42 PM AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
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http://business.avn.com/articles/36966.html

So much for the self policing industry. Mark Kernes describes Brian Pumpers forging of HIV/STD as 'a little dust up with Evil Angel."

So thats how a multiple time test forger gets described by AVN. According to Mark Kernes forging an HIV test is 'just a LITLLE dust -up."

You guys are making it way to easy for the condom police. The biggest industry news outlet thinks forging HIV tests is no big deal. A copy of this article has been sent to every state legislator to whom the FSC and their little band of lackeys spoke with during the week. Thanks you Mr, Kernes, you have been a great help in the battle against condom regulation.(lol)

Self policing , what a fucking joke.


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#465313 - 12/12/09 11:40 PM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
JRV Offline
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Marc Wallace was just ""a little dust-up" too I'm sure...
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#465314 - 12/13/09 11:12 AM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
Dick Dastardly Offline
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So much for the self policing industry. Mark Kernes describes Brian Pumpers forging of HIV/STD as 'a little dust up with Evil Angel."

So thats how a multiple time test forger gets described by AVN. According to Mark Kernes forging an HIV test is 'just a LITLLE dust -up.”




To an extent, there ought to be zero tolerance for this. The best policing they can have is to blacklist the ignorant jigaboo. If kicking the trash to the curb is acceptable in every other industry, why not in porn?
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#465315 - 12/13/09 11:20 AM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
TheBillyvassi Offline
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Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 538
Loc: Canada
Being a Canadian im dense to American criminal law outside of what i see ice t enforce every week on special victims unit BUT
....do they not bring criminal charges against these fucks for doing this shit?

and privacy be damned. If there was a simple submission of productions that were plugge dinto a database and cross referenced with AIMS testing results. In even a private capacity, that would rectify this shit immediately .

test positive for whatever, the producer is notified immediately and your removed from production. Like its 2009, this isnt a stretch to do this.

am i wrong????
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#465316 - 12/13/09 04:38 PM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
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Heh... Three of you responded to a "Mourning" post.
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#465317 - 12/14/09 09:14 AM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
delanoojos Offline
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Registered: 05/18/09
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I hate the guy, really
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#465318 - 12/14/09 10:45 AM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
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Registered: 06/28/07
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http://business.avn.com/articles/36966.html

So much for the self policing industry. Mark Kernes describes Brian Pumpers forging of HIV/STD as 'a little dust up with Evil Angel."

So thats how a multiple time test forger gets described by AVN. According to Mark Kernes forging an HIV test is 'just a LITLLE dust -up."






I'll hav e to admit, "little dust-up" was not the best choice of words, and I have now amended the post to include a link to MY previous story about Pumper submitting a forged test to Evil Angel.

My hope is that testing will be made mandatory, so that no "untested" hardcore scene can be shot -- but as for my article supposedly making it easier for mandatory condom laws to be passed, that's pure paranoia.

MK

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#465319 - 12/14/09 02:25 PM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe

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Mr. 'cop out' Kernes, why did you never mention that this was the THIRD time Pumper was caught redhanded by Evaseve Angels forging tests. Not to mention an incident from a few years ago regading forged tests from Brian Humper.
Why did you never mention that this is a violation of the SELF REGULATING industy.
Wouldnt you agree that this is a perfect example of how the industry FAILS in regulating itself. If someone can forge tests multiple times with virtually NO repercussions of any kind, don t you think it is time for REAL regulation?
And since you agree that 'a little dust up' was a poor choice of words, perhaps you could give us some phrase that accurately describes the violation of the self regulated(lol) industry, perhaps something like "a complete violation of trust, and disregard for the health and safety of fellow performers.' But those are my words, lets see what words YOU would use to describe this 'little dust up."
I beleive AVN's editorial board should do a comprehensive review of the industry's "SELF REGULATIONG " plicy, and give examples of any incidents where ANYBODY was ever sanctioned by these self regulating policies. I beleive you will never do this because you would not be able to find a single incident of repercusions agains any memenber of the industry. YOU, as the most respected journalist in the industry should feel some duty to report the truth, and not candy coat it with terms like "little dust up'. Lets see if you got the guts to do it. Personally, I doubt it, but maybe I'm wrong, only time will tell.

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#465321 - 12/14/09 03:31 PM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 03/04/09
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I saw that goat. Knowing Gene's past with AVN i kind of suspected he would. Thanks goat. I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the subject. Have a good day.

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#465322 - 12/14/09 05:08 PM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Mr. 'cop out' Kernes, why did you never mention that this was the THIRD time Pumper was caught redhanded by Evaseve Angels forging tests.




First of all you dumb cunt, it’s “Evasive”. It it was Evil Angel, not Evasive...or even Elegant Angal. EVIL, try to remember that in your fucked up crusade.
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#465323 - 12/14/09 09:50 PM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
JRV Offline
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....do they not bring criminal charges against these fucks for doing this shit?




Well, I don't know how it works in Canada, but in the US charges can only be filed using specifically stated statute passed by the legislature. Yelling "Hang'em High!" isn't good enough.

There are various "reckless endangerment" laws that might fit but keep in mind the gay lobby in California is very strong and disapproves of a lot of this sort of thing.

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and privacy be damned.



No. Privacy be governed by HIPPA, perhaps the only privacy law in the US with any teeth.

The notification you want can be done under HIPPA, but it has to be done carefully with strict adherence to the rules. AIM learned this lesson the hard way and probably isn't willing to get hit by HIPPA again.
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#465324 - 12/14/09 10:57 PM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
TheBillyvassi Offline
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Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 538
Loc: Canada
Hang em is a touch extreme when prosecuting an individual who knowingly infected or endangered the life of another with an infection.

I have looked and my silly country has locked away the sick fucks who have walked this line in the past. Gay Lobby or not..its a fucking farce to think the legal system can't make that charge stick


but hey no sense enforcing regulations or going after people, Its just HIV right?

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#465325 - 12/15/09 09:05 AM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
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#465326 - 12/16/09 12:01 AM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
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Posts: 86
Quote:

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Mr. 'cop out' Kernes, why did you never mention that this was the THIRD time Pumper was caught redhanded by Evaseve Angels forging tests.




First of all you dumb cunt, it’s “Evasive”. It it was Evil Angel, not Evasive...or even Elegant Angal. EVIL, try to remember that in your fucked up crusade.




Eric,it appears that youve taken over the role as resident aswipe. Golly gee, Im sorry for misidentifying the company, but despite your worthless correction of my mistake, you still fail in responding to the actual faacts of the post. But dealing with low budget fucks like you is just something that those of us who know the facts have to deal with. Its no problem for me, so you can continue to act like the fucking idiot you are. Ignorance is bliss, and EricFuck is the happiest guy on earth. Fuck off and die, or maybe you can stop by Lou's place and suck his cock. Either way, fuck you and the horse your mother rode in on.

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#465327 - 12/16/09 12:33 AM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Hang em is a touch extreme when prosecuting an individual who knowingly infected or endangered the life of another with an infection.



No one is accusing Brian Plumper of being HIV+. He did not place any of the girls in actual risk: he's accused of not taking a precaution.

There have been criminal prosecutions in the US where someone who was HIV+, and knew they were HIV+, infected someone else. Brian's situation is different because (1) he was actually HIV-, (2) he had no particular reason to believe he was HIV+, and (3) no one was infected by HIV.

Those three elements would seem to make a criminal case difficult. Had someone turned up HIV+ it would be different; had Brian been HIV+ it would be different; had Brian received a false positive result it might be different.
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#465328 - 12/16/09 01:01 AM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
DukeSkywalker Offline
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Registered: 02/16/09
Posts: 438
Loc: Jersey Strong all day long
Why would tests be forged. Unless...
I don't even want to think about it. I mean, we've bucked up money to get a girl in and the test was expired, and back on the plane she went. Seriously, this business sucks. And, if I ever win an AVN award, if you are even a slight fan of what we produce, beat we with the fucking thing until I have the brain capacity of Corky Thatcher, Facial Abuse's Patron Saint.
Cheers,
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#465329 - 12/16/09 10:42 PM Re: AVN/ Mark Kernes full of shit
Dick Dastardly Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
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I have looked and my silly country has locked away the sick fucks who have walked this line in the past. Gay Lobby or not..its a fucking farce to think the legal system can't make that charge stick





We're too busy appeasing the liberal pansies & waging wards with foreign terrorists here in the US, sorry.

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Eric,it appears that youve taken over the role as resident aswipe. Golly gee, Im sorry for misidentifying the company, but despite your worthless correction of my mistake, you still fail in responding to the actual faacts of the post. But dealing with low budget fucks like you is just something that those of us who know the facts have to deal with. Its no problem for me, so you can continue to act like the fucking idiot you are. Ignorance is bliss, and EricFuck is the happiest guy on earth. Fuck off and die, or maybe you can stop by Lou's place and suck his cock. Either way, fuck you and the horse your mother rode in on.




FAIL. Glad I touched a nerve.

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There have been criminal prosecutions in the US where someone who was HIV+, and knew they were HIV+, infected someone else. Brian's situation is different because (1) he was actually HIV-, (2) he had no particular reason to believe he was HIV+, and (3) no one was infected by HIV.




Which, like welfare, is pushing the boundries of "Do we need government regulation?"

If the performers can't police themselves, I think CA (or CAL-OSHA, at the very least) should make it law/regulatory to provide a clean test, just like proof-of-age recordation "protects minors". If you don't have it, you don't perform. And if you do, you'll pay a fine for at least triple what you made for that scene.

It sure beats the fuck out of the exaggerated snoozefest that condom-only scenes would bring to the table.
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