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#463631 - 11/30/09 09:32 PM The next great Porn fad?
E.Y.Davis Offline
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OK, I got into one of those discussions about porn. You know, the ones where you wind up somewhere that no longer feels like you're talking about porn anymore.

I like women, I like sex, I like having sex with women, I like watching porn about sex with women. I really don't get most fetish porn at all... not even a little bit.

Some guys here love to watch women getting slapped and punched and choked and pissed on and seem disinterested in any actual sexual activity.

So, would you buy a porn series that just had a naked woman tied to a chair and punched in the face and body until she first cried and then bled, and then became unconscious? Remember, no sex, just punching and choking to unconsciousness.

Of course for the sake of lawyers, it would be meticulously documented that she was well aware of what was to come before it was filmed, but for the sake of the "consumer" it would look like she was scared and fighting and didn't want to participate.

How many people here think a series like this would sell and maybe even get an AVN award? Would you buy it? Why or why not?


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#463632 - 11/30/09 09:34 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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wouldnt really be porn....just an erotic beating.

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#463633 - 11/30/09 09:37 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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wouldnt really be porn....just an erotic beating.




Do you think it would sell?
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#463634 - 11/30/09 10:00 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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Quote:

Quote:

wouldnt really be porn....just an erotic beating.




Do you think it would sell?





you would then have a new style of fetish if you were going to commercialize it....it would sell cause there is a market for EVERYTHING...its just down to if it would sell WELL....

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#463635 - 11/30/09 10:11 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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Well, you know what is behind my question, yes?

Some guys who like to watch "Slap Happy", "Gag Factor", Max Hardcore, etc. aren't really into the sex as much as the humiliation, are they?

Why not just give them what they're looking for without all that pretense of sex? They don't really want it and wouldn't miss it if it was gone, would they?

This is what the conversation was about.

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#463636 - 11/30/09 10:18 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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Snuff, if anyone has the balls to do it. After all, the worst that could happen to the producer would be a lethal injection.

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#463637 - 11/30/09 10:22 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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Snuff, if anyone has the balls to do it. After all, the worst that could happen to the producer would be a lethal injection.




Yes, isn't a bit of snuff behind what Max and others do? Isn't the market there? Why not supply the market while staying on the safe side of the law?

Am I right that nobody doubts the market is there, that the tapes would sell? I wouldn't want to be the first guy to try to sell this tape either, but this is a hypothetical question for a reason, yes?

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#463638 - 11/30/09 10:24 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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Ought to be purely hypothetical, cuz lethal injections are forever.

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#463639 - 11/30/09 10:25 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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Interesting thread coming from a guy with the biggest Madonna/whore complex and who thinks he's too good to date a former porn star.
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#463640 - 11/30/09 10:34 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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Interesting thread coming from a guy with the biggest Madonna/whore complex and who thinks he's too good to date a former porn star.




Really? I feel so misunderstood.

My other thread was about about regret, sadness, and disappointment, not about ego or superiority. It was understood by some and misunderstood by others, but I don't see the connection to this one.

Isn't the process that allows a "nice' girl to enter the world of porn the abandonment of the social construct of the Madonna/whore complex for financial gain or wish fulfillment at the expense of social standing?

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#463641 - 11/30/09 10:46 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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It suddenly occurred to me: Do you think because I am asking the question, I am advocating for it?

I do not support the idea, I am only asking about it out of a curiosity to know what others think; not a desire to see it realized.



Edited by E.Y.Davis (12/01/09 12:15 AM)
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#463642 - 12/01/09 11:09 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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Some guys who like to watch "Slap Happy", "Gag Factor", Max Hardcore, etc. aren't really into the sex as much as the humiliation, are they?




Nope. Take away the sex part of film like Gag Factor and all you have is a guy holding a whores head, an occasional smack, nose pinch, neck grab etc... makes no sense. That stuff is just the icing on the cake.
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#463643 - 12/03/09 06:10 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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You are missing the key element...degradation. Nothing says degradation more than beating a whore while fucking her ass/mouth/vag. You are reminding her physically of her worth as a cock holster.
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#463644 - 12/03/09 06:48 PM Re: The next great Porn fad?
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You are missing the key element...degradation. Nothing says degradation more than beating a whore while fucking her ass/mouth/vag. You are reminding her physically of her worth as a cock holster.




Well, to be perfectly honest I forget a bit of the details of the conversation that sparked this thread myself.

But it was born out of the age old debate about sex versus violence. You know, why is it that you can show brutal violence but not sex on TV or cable? That morphed into a discussion about violence within sex/porn. Then the pure sex/violence blend. Then, on to my favorite whipping boy, fetish porn. This is where I was coming from.

Example: The clip in your sig. I have seen it before. I think I even downloaded it. I like it a lot. Since you use it as your sig, I bet you like it too. But, based on your comments and your ID, I bet we like it for completely opposite reasons.

I like it because the girl is way cute. I am attracted to the girl. What she is doing doesn't particularly appeal to me. I'd prefer the scene if it was softer with more "making out", because when I fantasize about being with her in my mind, that is what I think about. That is my fetish--the cute girl.

I suspect what you like about the scene has more to do with the sex act than the girl involved. Switch her out with another warm vagina (or asshole) with a pulse and I'd guess you would still like it--maybe even just as much. Switch her out for me and I don't give it a second glance because it isn't the act that interests me. That is your fetish--the act of painful ass fucking.

So...
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