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#459986 - 11/11/09 04:12 PM
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Porn Jesus
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^^^^LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL fucking OWNED.
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#459987 - 11/11/09 04:17 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/02/09
Posts: 1541
Loc: Mississippi
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#459991 - 11/11/09 04:32 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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I disagree with Camaron, but she is entitled to her opinion, and she didn't give a bunch of incorrect facts and flawed logic to defend it. I could probably discuss this with her, if she thought it worthy of her time (which she probably doesn't). And she would probably admit her position comes from holding empathy with victim's families higher than lofty moral arguments.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
I do admit that. Freely. I believe that some people simply deserve to die. Someone rapes and chops up a bunch of kids? No I dont think they deserve to keep breathing. Their victims didnt have that opportunity...why should they?
I believe there are truly evil monsters walking the earth. And purging them from it is the only answer.
Just my opinion. But I'm a big fan of revenge and true justice.
Golly Charin, change the geeky person to Cameron, and I am not sure you could tell the posts were written by different people-- or were they? Naw, she's cooler than me. Everyone is.
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#459992 - 11/11/09 04:37 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/02/09
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Loc: Mississippi
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I disagree with Camaron, but she is entitled to her opinion, and she didn't give a bunch of incorrect facts and flawed logic to defend it. I could probably discuss this with her, if she thought it worthy of her time (which she probably doesn't). And she would probably admit her position comes from holding empathy with victim's families higher than lofty moral arguments.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
I do admit that. Freely. I believe that some people simply deserve to die. Someone rapes and chops up a bunch of kids? No I dont think they deserve to keep breathing. Their victims didnt have that opportunity...why should they?
I believe there are truly evil monsters walking the earth. And purging them from it is the only answer.
Just my opinion. But I'm a big fan of revenge and true justice.
Golly Charin, change the geeky person to Cameron, and I am not sure you could tell the posts were written by different people-- or were they? Naw, she's cooler than me. Everyone is.
Welcome to XPT. Decisions are made about the validity of your argument based on gender, bra size, weight, avatar, number of posts, political affiliation, who you know, when you registered, etc., etc. Anything other than the substance of your argument.
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#459993 - 11/11/09 04:41 PM
Re: Are you pro-death penalty?
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Registered: 07/15/05
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Where Camaron sees evil, I see insanity. And I feel sorrow, not anger. Both our responses would be to protect society, mine by humane imprisonment, hers would be swift ultimate justice.
I'd rather err on the side of compassion.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
gender, bra size, weight, avatar, number of posts, political affiliation, who you know, when you registered
Male, none, 200 lbs., Gag Factor 18, 1749, progressive, nobody, July 15, 2005
Edited by charin (11/11/09 04:52 PM)
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#459995 - 11/11/09 05:07 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 05/05/09
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Please use the Bible, Rome, Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, any of the purges in South America and/or Planet of the Apes (original, not the remake) as evidence.
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But I'm a big fan of revenge and true justice.
This thread just keeps on getting better and better! Hilarious!
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#459997 - 11/11/09 05:16 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
Posts: 5186
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So it would be more humane to appoint a guard to whack them in the chow line at a random date and time?
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#460001 - 11/11/09 05:28 PM
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It has been shown to be ineffective as a deterrent...
There are strong indicators that possibly innocent people have been put to death...
It costs more than life imprisonment...
Probably the three most important reasons for restricting it to almost zero. I don't think you can get rid of it entirely until we have a world where there are no more Hitlers or Osamas. That aside, though...
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#460002 - 11/11/09 05:29 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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and make them argue with other idiots on the internet.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
"Idiots" only because they don't agree with you.
Edited by geek (11/11/09 05:31 PM)
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#460003 - 11/11/09 05:37 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 01/13/07
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Madoffs, why go through the expense of room, board, and health care?
Because of all the controversy and legal appeals putting someone to death generates, it's actually cheaper just to throw them in prison forever.
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Fuck the appeals process. If the evidence is plainly there, get it over with.
If you think the government is ever going to be that efficient, you're delusional.
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I'm pro and in all honesty..its because I just dont think certain people deserve to live.
Wow you libtards have a lot of confidence in the government getting things right.
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As a civil society, we wrap the death penalty in a series of what we hope are fair trials to make the decision to carry out this penalty more humane. Is it fair? Is it equitable? Hell no. However, it is better than getting whacked without a chance to defend or justify yourself. And, it is better than anyone else's system.
Interesting, a pro-death penalty individual who's aware the legal system doesn't always get it right... Doesn't care if an innocent man is put to death...
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I do have a different twist though - I think the criminal should have the option to choose death or life in prison.
Unless you're a huge fan of gay sex, I can't imagine why you would choose life. Going through the hassle of answering all the legal questions and then actually having to be the guy that sticks a needle in the convict, fuck it. Just let them rot in prison.
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#460004 - 11/11/09 05:50 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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As a civil society, we wrap the death penalty in a series of what we hope are fair trials to make the decision to carry out this penalty more humane. Is it fair? Is it equitable? Hell no. However, it is better than getting whacked without a chance to defend or justify yourself. And, it is better than anyone else's system.
Interesting, a pro-death penalty individual who's aware the legal system doesn't always get it right... Doesn't care if an innocent man is put to death...
This is me.
Nothing made by humans is perfect. I don't remember saying that I did not care.
I accept the world for what it is-- an unfair place. History is rife with innocents being slaughtered. Vlad the Impaler, anyone?
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#460006 - 11/11/09 09:52 PM
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3 strikes of major felonious act(s) in nature = Death.....expedited
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#460007 - 11/12/09 02:25 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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"If Vlad the Impaler has done it..." is integral to your reasoning behind supporting the death penalty?
Why not just let the innocent man sit in prison, in the hopes that one day he can be proved innocent? It costs less money that way.
You are lost. Reread and try again.
Integral? No. Supportive? Yes. The Vlad reference is to support the position that throughout history innocents have gotten the shaft. Vlad piked one of his own towns as a warning to the advancing Turks. The message was that the Turks should fear any man that would do such a thing to his own people. I was not there, but it might be safe to say that every man, woman and child did not undergo due process in that "incident".
Time to focus. You have confused support of the death penalty with support of the punishment of innocents and possibly that I do not care that this happens. The flaw in you reasoning is that you feel those tried, convicted and sentenced to capital punishment (in the US, I presume) are still "unproven" to deserve that punishment. I say otherwise: there is a process, it mostly works, sure mistakes are made and prejudices influence outcomes, but it is better than anything else seen thus far. My empathy in the matter is irrelevant.
Feel better now or are you still confusing supportive details with main points of the supposition?
Edited by geek (11/12/09 03:07 AM)
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#460010 - 11/12/09 09:22 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 01/13/07
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Feel better now or are you still confusing supportive details with main points of the supposition?
How 'bout this? I'll humor your snotty demeanor by acting like your opinion is important enough it deems questioning, because I'm bored anyway.
Here's the first point you make that I'd like to draw your attention to:
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You have confused support of the death penalty with support of the punishment of innocents
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there is a process, it mostly works, sure mistakes are made and prejudices influence outcomes, but it is better than anything else seen thus far. My empathy in the matter is irrelevant.
If it only mostly works, then of course some people are convicted who are actually innocent.
So, your answer consists of: 1.) some people who are innocent are given the death penalty, 2.) yes, you support the death penalty, and 3.) that doesn't mean you support killing innocent people.
You don't see how your logic doesn't follow itself?
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#460011 - 11/14/09 03:57 AM
Re: Are you pro-death penalty?
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 08/07/08
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I'm Pro-Death Penalty.
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I believe people who commit crimes such as the shooter executed in Virginia are mentally ill. Their actions alone convince me of that. I believe they should be humanely removed from society for the rest of their lives. They should not be killed because they have an illness we don't understand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kER6XvItkO4
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#460012 - 11/14/09 02:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/30/08
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lol nothing spices up an argument on crime like a Charles Bronson clip
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#460013 - 11/15/09 04:43 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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Feel better now or are you still confusing supportive details with main points of the supposition?
How 'bout this? I'll humor your snotty demeanor by acting like your opinion is important enough it deems questioning, because I'm bored anyway.
It must be important to you, because you answered...
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So, your answer consists of: 1.) some people who are innocent are given the death penalty, 2.) yes, you support the death penalty, and 3.) that doesn't mean you support killing innocent people.
You don't see how your logic doesn't follow itself?
You obviously never "studied" for the LSAT or a logic course. The above works just fine.
Sign up for the test. Lot's of cute girls show up.
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#460015 - 11/15/09 02:45 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 1011
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kER6XvItkO4
How'd the writer's make the movie end? They didn't put Charles in prison did they?
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#460016 - 11/16/09 04:43 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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Now I see why charin just spit in your face every time you tried to say something...
At least you were smart enough not to dazzle us with your collegiate logic studies to argue against very simple reasoning.
So have the same disease: you lose the argument and start slinging mud.
And who the fuck is Charin? He could not even hang with the guy carrying my water.
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