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I think every group of organized human beings down through the ages has agreed that some actions are so horrible that the appropriate punishment is the death penalty. The death penalty has been used by human beings since prehistoric times in just about every culture and religion in history.



Factually wrong, look around you.

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In a purely logical sense, if you assign appropriate punishments for various crimes, you quickly come to actions so grotesque that the death penalty easily fits the crime. All people on the globe inherently agree with this concept.




Very wrong on logic and facts.

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I think that the way to get to the notion of the death penalty as an ethical response to an action comes from the deep investigation of lesser crimes and the ethical punishments that they warrant. I believe it is easy to run up against that death penalty mark if you start with lesser crimes and their ethical punishments first and work your way up slowly to more egregious actions. I think a person quickly will admit it is a fair and reasonable response for SOME very terrible crimes.




You are doing what you wrongly accused me of doing. You pre-determined that this scale would go from a slap on the wrist to death, and increment punishments according to your pre-defined scale to reach your pre-determined conclusion.

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The "Sickness" defense is a cheap ant-intellectual cop out. It would take me a couple of days to explain that better, but for now let me say that being sick does not relieve you of responsibility for your actions or prevent you from being punished for them, NOR SHOULD IT! I can walk through that in excruciating detail if you want, but only if you really don't get it.




Moot, for your purposes. You assume life in prison is not holding these mentally ill people to account.


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It is a matter of degrees, not black and white.




Either you throw the switch or you don't.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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