Zip Coon
Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 1958
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Tritone,
Whilst I am but sorely tempted to jump up and down on your hot buttons, I will not.
I think you've always been cool in that respect.
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You're proposing two basic questions here.
1) What is the basic cost to set up a decent porn website that will succeed as a business.
2) Is the concept that I am floating viable?
3) How can I make a living creaming in tight assholes, warm pussies, and willing mouths?
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crew are also working for a bit less than they used to as well,
Remember, there is no "crew" except for me and the female assistant. Our environments will be nice, but mostly single room sets. She will be trained in setting up video lights and photographic strobes. She can also double as a makeup artist if for some reason we cannot secure one for the shoot. She is a close friend who also has other income so she is this venture with me for a cut of the end result. She doesn't receive a salary.
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Just a simple search on Redtube for POV inter-racial brought up 17 free videos, some of which actually looked pretty good.
I bet most of those vids are just rips from DVD content, though. Even then, I believe there are both old fashioned and even some new porn fans that want QUALITY in the porn they like. They want to see what they are used to on DVDs and big screens -- not some blocky, pixelated mush with flashing dating site & webcam chat ads in the periphery.
They want to see Giana's (Yes, she will do anal again for my site!!!) gaping, just-fucked ass in vivid HD color filling their widescreen monitors. They want to see a IN FOCUS, properly color-balanced still photo of the same thing. They are tired of porn companies taking them for granted by saying, "what the hell, it's just porn! Once they get a nut they won't care!". For a true porn addict/connosieur it's not just the NUT .. but the entire process of fantasy and ritual leading up to it.
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So is the cost reasonable now? Maybe. You wanted to rent a house and live in an apartment offsite. I'm nixing that. A house in porn valley will not be cheap and a startup business needs to run as efficiently as possible. You need to live in that house dude.
My concern with that would be security and privacy. I want a reasonable separation between MY life and the porn shooting adventure. It also makes upkeep simpler because you don't have an additional person living there adding wear and tear.
I don't want some disgruntled boyfriend of a girl I hired to know where to come back and find me. Maybe she shot some stuff and didn't tell him. And now he's pissed and wants to teach me a lesson. Or maybe they just want to rob the place. (Note: The video & still cameras will come back with me every time after the shoot. The only thing left on the premises will be lighting stuff. And that shit is too cumbersome for some amateur to steal).
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Then you need to shoot a ton of material before launch. Figure at least 12 different girls for launch with at least 6 more in the can and ready to go. If we figure on the bargain price of $700 per girl, you're looking at at least $12600 before you even open your site for business. And I'm being generous in that assessment, because whores flake out so figure on at least two of your shoots being busts.
Sounds reasonable. I was thinking 20 girls at site launch with 10 in the can. This gives me a "buffer" of 2.5 months to keep new material going. Of course, If I go with my original plan I'll have tons of content already done that I can introduce at my own pace.
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I'm not even going to guess what support staff ... lawyers fees, insurance, website maintenance and technical support, utilities and property taxes.
Again: only other production staff while shooting is the female assistant. Now maybe I won't be up to performing sometimes and I'll have to hire Bishop, Justin Long, Mr. Marcus, etc. I can see this, but it won't be a regular thing.
Editing (Using Sony Vegas) and technical stuff is all me (with sometimes assists from the female friend who I have tutored in it).
That is one area where I will save money because computer stuff has been my life for many years.
Yes, I will definitely have to find a good lawyer and someone back home who will store the 2257 records in a safe place while I shoot.
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Now for the second question. Is your concept viable?
I'm going to say no.
Hit Google, type in interracial POV. See what you get. I got 699 thousand results. A fuckton of that stuff is free too. How do you compete with that?
But other than some of Lexington Steele's POV videos, they have not been shot with the kind of quality you see in Mike John's, Michael Stefano's, or Erik Everhard's POV ventures. I've written extensively on ADT about how POV should be shot so I won't get into a bunch of details here. But in general, we need the male talent holding the camera steady and in a CENTERED position that simulates what you'd see from own eyes. A mix of closeups, medium, and full wide views that let you see the girl's face.
When they see photo stills and clips of my content on TGP pages, they will see what sets my stuff apart from the crappy DVD-recycles they see on tubes and "videobox" sites. Full down-the-center POV shots with good production values. Also hi-res POV-style photos that you'll never get from ANY DVDrip or cheap amateur with no appreciation of how stills are actually BETTER than video in some cases.
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You don't. That doesn't mean you can't do your vision, which is to have very fine whores servicing you while you try not to drop your videocamera,
Ahhh. I love the way you put that. It's quite a vision, huh?
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but on the whole, I don't feel your vision stands on it's own. You need a hook, a grabber, something to get the people to your site and then keep them there after they whip out the credit card. That means a unique high quality product that they cannot get for free or easily pirate and that they cannot get anywhere else.
Agree. I was hoping that my commitment to quality would be the selling point. High bit rate encodings. HD video. Super large hi res pics (Note - bangbros, brazzers, and reality kings have CRAP resolutionn in their stills). But I guess that's being a bit naive.
Also, while I rail against the fetishization (sp?) of IR, it actually hepls in this regard. I think IR is specialized enough that it may sell itself. It attracts black and white guys -- sometimes for different reasons.
The only problem is see is that I wonder if non-black guys will be interested in black POV even if it is with a white girl. My feeling is that they want to see IR, but not from the perspective that they are the stunt cock.
Perhaps further specialization is necessary. Maybe focus on big tits and cumming on them. Or have them always wear spandex/tight clothes. These are all of interest to me. Or maybe I should scale back and go with the easier idea of just handjobs. Now I can CONFIDENTLY say that there are NOT a lot of black/IR handjob vidoes available.
But remember, this is MY fantasy scenario (yes, freestylah, its not just fantasy I would WANT to do it if I could). I'm supposed to have a nest egg so I can afford to lose money on this venture for a while.
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In short dude, I think it's a tough row to hoe. You need a fat outlay of cash and a unique concept that about a thousand people a month are willing to pay about $14.95
for.
I was thinking $34.95 initial, with $29.99 recurring. Also, they can join both the black and IR POV sites for $49.99 initial, and $34.99 recurring.
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Then again, if it works out, you could be in the unique position of having to pencil in blowjob /w swallow for Tuesday morning followed by A2M for the afternoon. And get paid for it.
Hmmm. I like the sound of that.
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That's my take dude. I have 'zero' experience in the actual industry as a website operator as well so *please* take everything I say with a grain of salt. All I've got is my opinion and some educated guesses, and I hope they offer a little bit of what you were looking for.
Hey, I had fun reading your assessment. Thank you for taking the time to lay out your thoughts. And yeah, All I've got is just some perspective as a fan that has watched a gazillion hours of porn.
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