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#453464 - 10/05/09 06:51 PM
Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 50
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Do people really believe it's tube sites that are killing porn (ie: dvd sales)? Or do you believe it's moreso that low cost membership sites like videosz, aebn, videobox are the ones killing tghe industry.
I'm one who believes that the industry is exaggerating its' demise. While 'smaller' players are being hurt by the online push for content delivery, I think companies like DP, Vivid, Zero Tolerance has more than compensated for the loss of DVD sales with their online presence in the form of their proprietary company sites.
Thoughts?
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#453466 - 10/05/09 07:22 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 50
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I agree that they are 100% theft driven.... but the quality of the content is absolutely horrible, so I was wondering if the Tube sites account for a smaller part of the drop in sales compared to the low priced membership sites I mentioned that let you watch unlimited DVDs from studios for 29.99 a month.
And isnt anyone concerned or shall I say outraged that the biggest tube sites are owned by Brazzers?
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#453468 - 10/05/09 11:39 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 4580
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The quality of most of the free streams is crap. The paid ones should be better, although the HD stuff will probably look better on Blu-Ray Disc anyway. A lot of people don't care about quality, as seen with copied music, which usually is compressed with lossy algorithms like MP3 while it's produced in a format better than CD sound nowadays.
Maybe some guilt shit is going on when porn consumers don't see the need for HD in porn. It's dirty and has to look shitty, so to say. Porn producers like Belladonna, who didn't like all the blemishes seen on HD once, can fool whoever they want; they just can't deliver high-end HD. There's just more to it than taking a mediocre camcorder and hire some whores and a minimal crew. Almost everything in HD porn is so obviously below the Hollywood major league or B-movies it's just natural for whores to delude themselves.
The whole push to HD will take several years for a majority of TV sets to be able to actually benefit from the format, not just some low-end "Full HD" bullshit without anything close to color accuracy and sharpness. And the free file hosting sites and torrents probably are more popular than the pay sites as well.
The low-end gonzo productions won't benefit from HD too much and therefore consumers who care about image quality a bit might just not see the point in buying a Blu-Ray Disc in this very popular market segment. Companies like Vivid, Wicked Pictures and Digital Playground seem to try to make fancier stuff that can look better on Blu-Ray Disc and will probably attract some of the pro quality crowd eventually. In a few years down the road, when more and more people realize what a crude format DVD is, and its ripped dervivatives are, it should make an impact in favor of the companies which deliver the better material. The low-end circus act league will then become a smaller part of the market and probably a niche eventually. Some call it consolidation.
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#453474 - 10/08/09 12:27 AM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 02/16/09
Posts: 438
Loc: Jersey Strong all day long
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Do people really believe it's tube sites that are killing porn (ie: dvd sales)? Or do you believe it's moreso that low cost membership sites like videosz, aebn, videobox are the ones killing tghe industry.
I'm one who believes that the industry is exaggerating its' demise. While 'smaller' players are being hurt by the online push for content delivery, I think companies like DP, Vivid, Zero Tolerance has more than compensated for the loss of DVD sales with their online presence in the form of their proprietary company sites.
Thoughts?
If you're reffering to dvd than sites like deluxepass and videos z killed them along time ago. It just takes awhile for a business model to implode. Tubes are hurting everyone. Some more than others. If you have a unique product you are not hurt as bad. If you film regular la porn you're fucked.
You just have to adapt to the constant changing entity which is the internets.
Duke
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#453475 - 10/08/09 12:43 AM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 02/16/09
Posts: 438
Loc: Jersey Strong all day long
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Seems to me that xhamster.com definitely has some free quality masturbatory material. 
I hear ya.. I mean if your porn standards arent too high than yea. You have to search and search for something thats good IMO.
I wonder whats in store for porn after the tubes. Eventually, even they will find it tough to compete as they are biting the very hand that feeds them--their advertisers. Eventually, news laws will pass, and shit will be harder to get. It wont happen tomorrow. It may not even happen in my lifetime, but it will happen. It's inevitable. As soon as the gubment, parent groups, yada yada get wind that it's the tube sites that make porn available to anyone of any age, then they will lay off the producers and realize that helping the producer curb piracy is the way to keep the web under control.
This is my theory. I think it makes the most sense. As I said, it won't happen tomorrow.
Duke
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#453476 - 10/08/09 01:03 AM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Pervert
Registered: 12/26/07
Posts: 2056
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Duke: Quote:
Eventually, even they will find it tough to compete as they are biting the very hand that feeds them--their advertisers.
Aren't most advertisers on tube selling cams/dating. You know things that can't really be stolen.
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As soon as the gubment, parent groups, yada yada get wind that it's the tube sites that make porn available to anyone of any age, then they will lay off the producers and realize that helping the producer curb piracy is the way to keep the web under control.
Porn has been avaivable to anyone of any age for years...since the first TGP started. No one seems to care.
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#453477 - 10/08/09 07:11 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Broccoli Buy Piss Mop
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Registered: 10/25/05
Posts: 1802
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There are plenty of people that care. People that have made a living doing porn for years now, are for the most part Shit Out Of Luck.
The quality, integrity and originality of new content is completely Stifled by Recycled Tube scenes.
There's no work and nothing to Jack Off to anymore 
Only websites containing Flash content that cant be downloaded still stand a chance for survival. But that number is very few and Flash totally sucks.
You cant just blame Tube sites for this. You must also blame Donny Long.
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#453478 - 10/09/09 11:06 AM
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Brandon... you're for free on tube8 today.
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#453480 - 10/10/09 06:50 AM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 07/17/08
Posts: 447
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Only websites containing Flash content that cant be downloaded still stand a chance for survival. But that number is very few and Flash totally sucks.
Flash can be easily downloaded.
http://flashgot.net/
If it comes into your computer, there is a way to capture it.
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#453481 - 10/10/09 12:35 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Broccoli Buy Piss Mop
Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 10/25/05
Posts: 1802
Loc: Getting pissed on
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Only websites containing Flash content that cant be downloaded still stand a chance for survival. But that number is very few and Flash totally sucks
Some Flash can be downloaded, let the rest of the world know.
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#453484 - 10/11/09 10:46 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 241
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Is pornheed new? looks like a search engine for tubes.
"Pornheed's mission is to help you find and collect adult videos from all over the web, no matter where they are hosted! Pornheed aggregates over 150000 free web porn videos from more than 20 famous adult tubes like Youporn, Pornhub, Spankwire, Redtube..."
it works:
pornheed.com - Server Info
Hosting ISP : Ovh Systems
Server Ip : 94.23.192.187
Server Location :
Roubaix, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, , France
Latitude: 50.7000007629
Longitude: 3.16669988632
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#453486 - 10/13/09 12:48 AM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 4470
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I agree that they are 100% theft driven.... but the quality of the content is absolutely horrible,...
Seriously dude? WHO GIVES A FUCK how bad the content is, let the PAYING market decide that. Just because you (and every other pirate, etc.) thinks its sucks, doesn't mean you can steal it & post it so 10,000 other cheap-ass degenerates can view it at no cost to themselves other than replacing an old sock.
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#453487 - 10/13/09 07:23 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 3576
Loc: Baltimore, MD
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But that hamster site is so convenient.
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#453488 - 10/13/09 06:35 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 09/26/09
Posts: 273
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But that hamster site is so convenient.
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#453489 - 10/13/09 06:48 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 3576
Loc: Baltimore, MD
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Has Conquistador seen this yet?
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#453490 - 10/14/09 01:17 AM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 04/11/08
Posts: 1265
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[Knox] People that have made a living doing porn for years [/irony]
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#453491 - 10/14/09 10:05 AM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 07/14/08
Posts: 787
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There's no work and nothing to Jack Off to anymore
Dude, you didn't manage to get a hardon when you had good looking chicks sucking on your fucking lame excuse for a dick. Ever think about the possibilty that this is the reason you can't find work anymore?
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#453492 - 10/18/09 09:14 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 09/02/09
Posts: 25
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Quote:
Do people really believe it's tube sites that are killing porn (ie: dvd sales)? Or do you believe it's moreso that low cost membership sites like videosz, aebn, videobox are the ones killing tghe industry.
I'm one who believes that the industry is exaggerating its' demise. While 'smaller' players are being hurt by the online push for content delivery, I think companies like DP, Vivid, Zero Tolerance has more than compensated for the loss of DVD sales with their online presence in the form of their proprietary company sites.
Thoughts?
I think it's a combination of things, but tube sites are definetely a huge contributor. If you can watch practically any star for free, why would anyone pay for it? Myself I think that streaming websites with no downloadable content are the answer. Some people have started using them already and I'm told the success has been pretty good !
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#453493 - 11/09/09 12:24 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 698
Loc: CA
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Tube sites are killing porn - but so are porn sites. Follow me here.... Pick a random membership porn site, any site and what you see is shit like 732 full length videos, 19520 images, 10 sites for the price of 1, ect. Has anyone in the porn biz ever wondered why HBO has like maybe 10 movies a month, then they rotate them off the next month and add different movies? Just in case nobody has ever thought of it, I'll tell you. It's so you have to keep subscribing to HBO to see movies. If you could subscribe to HBO and download every movie ever made in less than a month and then cancel, you would - and this is exactly what porn consumers are doing. They download 70000 hours of porn and stop paying for the next 6 months. If porn studios are going to survive, they will need to adopt the Hollywood model and provide different content every month - NOT THE ENTIRE LIBRARY! 
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#453495 - 11/09/09 02:04 PM
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Pervert
Registered: 12/26/07
Posts: 2056
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^^^I think you're wrong.
I don't have any numbers to back it up, but the rule of thumb in business is that collectors are usually just a small minority of consumers unless you're talking about a highly defined, small niche market.
I would never waste time on downloading porn, except for a few special scenes I'm really into. As a bangbros member I can simply click and watch any scene I want in fast and lag free streaming.
And it's really cheap too...monthly membership on BB, ZZ, NA or RK costs about the same as one porn DVD. Sure, I could save a few euros by subscribing every 6 months to download everything and canceling my account immediately afterward. But I simply prefer to spend my time more productively(on XPT for example). I do think most porn sites members are like me...we just like to get new scenes every day and have aces to a gigantic porn database for a modest monthly fee...
Then there are guys like fatman who spend whole nights downloading every single video with their favorite pw that they can find. But guys like that don't need to subscribe to a porn site, they obviously don't care about convenience and everything can be downloaded for free from piratebay.
Big "Wallmart" style porn sites are the best thing that has happened to porn during this decade along with Fatja Kassin semi-retirement. They are not competing with good DVD companies like JM-you ain't gonna see a bukkake or girlvert on RK anytime soon. Their business model is based on giving pervs the best value for their money. What's not to like?
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#453496 - 11/09/09 04:00 PM
Re: Tube Sites Killing Porn
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/25/04
Posts: 93
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I would never waste time on downloading porn, except for a few special scenes I'm really into
jm dvd= what is it 29 to 50-60 bucks 
clips 4 sale 5-30 min $5-20 bucks for exactley what you want, to me its an open and close case 
http://www.clips4sale.com/studio/13371 
 
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#453498 - 11/16/09 01:18 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 50
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It's funny... because TUBE8 is now promoting PORNHUB.
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