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I just drank a little apple cider vinegar and it went away.
Airborne is usually good, but only if you start taking it as soon as you feel yourself getting sick.

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Here is the number of people you know that will get swine flu : ZERO.

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Here is the number of people you know that will get swine flu : ZERO. The garbage you're eating and the cigarettes you're smoking pose a far larger risk to your health.
And there is no cure for the common cold. Get plenty of rest and eat well. It will go away on its own...

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Here is the number of people you know that will get swine flu : ZERO. The garbage you're eating and the cigarettes you're smoking pose a far larger risk to your health.
And there is no cure for the common cold. Get plenty of rest and eat well. It will go away on its own...

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Here is the number of people you know that will get swine flu : ZERO.

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Not so sure. I live in a high risk state and my principal friend said they had a good number of kids (I think 80) at his school test positive for H1N1 the first week of school. I saw in the news today that my old college, WSU in Washington state had 2,000 cases of it during their first week back in class. That's out of 18,000 students.

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The article today at AOL about the University said , "A presidential panel estimates that upward of half of the U.S. population could come down with the H1N1 this year."

http://news.aol.com/article/2000-students-at-washington-state/657100

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if you're implying that i don't trust docs or vaccines, you are incorrect (check conspiracy thread), it is just that there is a difference between preparedness and panic/pandemonium (alliteration!) .
I know HIV and the clap is real, but I do not ask every woman I boink for her full-panel test before we get it on.

http://www.cdc.gov/H1n1flu/update.htm

593 confirmed deaths in a nation of 330 million? How many of these people were elderly or infants?

nigga please...

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Wow, that was out of left field. No I wasn't implying that.

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My apologies , E.Y., I got hopped up from the other thread. I thought you were implying I was some sort of denier. My bad.

Hey you know who does pray the sick away? Val Kilmer. He is a big follower of Mary Baker Eddy. God I love kooky celebs...

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593 confirmed deaths in a nation of 330 million? How many of these people were elderly or infants?

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Well if you check the conspiracy thread, people get the whole "they are out to get us" idea in their head and there is no changing their mind.
It's funny (and sad) that so many people (conspiracy theorists, radical lefties, religious nuts) will completely reject stuff that comes from doctors and scientists. I love it when people malign these groups with the old "what the hell do doctors know?" or "scientists don't know anything."
Really? These people sacrificed countless hours of sleep and forked over tons of money and studied their asses off and they know less than some jerk off with a website or a religious text? Give me a fucking break...

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If they are adults, i could give a shit if they want to ignore science. If kids are involved it's a different matter. I had a lot of kooky suggestions when I was not doing so hot and I get a lot of kooky suggestions now that I work out a lot. I go to people who know what the fuck they are talking about; if some loser wants to drop 40 dollars on acai or goji juice, fuck him.


people who get serious medical advice off of chat boards get what they fucking deserve...

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I suspect most people agree with you. I'm not so sure myself. I would love to turn on lawyers to the potentially very lucrative field of suing non-medical professionals for giving medical advice or "alternative medicine" advice.

I would love to see Jenny Mcarthy be held accountable for a child getting sick from a disease that could have been prevented with a vaccination.

I would love that to become the new gold mine for thousands of lawyers pouring out of law schools all over the country.


But I know that ain't gonna happen.

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my apologies. 9079, or .0003% of the population...

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And if person who said in the article that half of the USA might get the swine flu this year iss correct , that would mean about 16,500,000 could possibly die .

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While the seasonal flu is associated with 30,000 to 40,000 deaths and 200,000 hospitalizations each year, the lack of immunity to the swine flu virus probably will lead to many more people becoming infected, sick -- and possibly to 30,000 to 90,000 deaths, the council said. And while most deaths during a typical flu season occur in the elderly, swine flu is more likely to kill children and young adults, the panel said.

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Look, I really don't want to get in the middle of this, but 4 small boobies has really hit on a pet peeve of mine...

All resources are not created equal. An AOL article about a closed environment (University setting), written by a non-medical person, using terms like "swine flu like symptoms" and not "culture positive H1N1 swine flu" is almost completely useless. It is not credible. It is not equal to information from the CDC or about a hundred other credible sources of information.

There is a huge difference between a college student skipping class because of subjective "swine flu like symptoms" and the objective viral cultures and labratory testing being used by the World Health Organization or the CDC.

Sorry about that outburst. You may now return to your regularly scheduled debate.

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Look man , i am sorry

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Can you point me in the direction of the alternative medicine community? You're took that post a little too seriously, and I probably should have mentioned that he went through like a zillion tests (from his doctor, of course ) before he got his diagnosis. I didn't include the whole story, my bad. Of course I know that diagnoses come from a doctor and diseases are discovered by doctors. That's also why I included the disclaimer about you disagreeing with me ahead of time. Thanks.

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Exactly, while the media and the germophobics are screaming about the 300,000 cases of swine flu that are supposed to hit this year

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Exactly, while the media and the germophobics are screaming about the 300,000 cases of swine flu that are supposed to hit this year

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The word "cases" means nothing by itself.

300,00 people _infected_ seems preposterously low.
If it fizzles then maybe only that many _visit their doctor_.
300,00 _hospitalized_ seems possible but high.
300,000 _deaths_ seems very unlikely this winter; maybe next winter.

The virus making the rounds now has not mutated much since spring so we know what to expect for the next few months.

It is highly infectious but the symptoms are very mild. The majority of victims won't even know they were infected, perhaps thinking it's a mild cold or allergies, unless they're tested for some reason (like a school where one kid gets really sick and is diagnosed with H1N1, then they test everyone else - of the 2,000 at WSU who have H1N1 I bet most never knew they had a flu until tested).

The virus could mutate into something more lethal by the end of winter, or by next winter - nobody knows. Or it could just as easily mutate into something not very infectious and just vanish like the Spanish influenza.

Just because it's easy to catch doesn't mean it's going to be a big deal when you do get it. CDC is worrying about what if the symptoms become severe while it is still very infectious. That may happen but not yet.

PS. The worst forms of Spanish influenza appeared the winter after the initial outbreaks, so CDC is not unreasonable to worry about it now or next winter - it's like flipping coins, the fact that the first round was mild doesn't mean the rest will be.

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