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Agree with chico totally, fighting isn't marathon-running and there's no shame in quitting. There's a moment when you realize you've got nothing left or you threw everything you could and more at your opponent and it didn't work---after that, it's not a challenge anymore, just dangerous. i fuck around with gracie j-j in the winters a few times a week and since it's more or less drop-in, the skill levels vary,. you're not considered less of a man if you give up when someone has your arm in a position to break it at will-you're stupid if you don't. respecting when someone taps out/etc. is something i've never seen violated, anyone who does better be so good they never have to train, because people won't get near them.


jamesn-where do you train at? I trained with Royce Gracie at first,then moved on to Beverly Hills Jujitsu Club,before settling at RAW Training Center with Rico Chipperelli and Frank Trigg. I'm going to start training with the Machados soon,so that should be a blast.
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