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#445768 - 08/29/09 06:08 AM Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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A Dutch court has put into state care a 13-year-old girl who wants to become the youngest person to sail solo around the world, amid fears for her wellbeing during the attempt.

Child protection authorities will take charge of Laura Dekker for two months while she is assessed by psychologists, although she will continue to live with her father. Dekker had planned to set sail next month on a trip due to last two years.

She wants to challenge the record set by the British teenager Mike Perham, 17, who was celebrated yesterday after becoming the youngest person to sail around the world solo. Perham, from Potters Bar, returned to the UK after a nine-month, 24,000-mile voyage during which he was alone except when stopping for repairs.

Social workers have argued that Laura Dekker is too young to properly assess the dangers of the voyage. Psychologists have said that being alone for so long would be damaging at an important time in her development.

"A 13-year-old girl is in the middle of her development and you don't do that alone, you need peers and adults," said Micha de Winter, a professor of child psychology at Utrecht University. Adults could choose to be alone, he said, "but for children it is not good".

The presiding judge, M Oostendorp, ruled that the trip held significant potential dangers for someone Laura's age. "She would be confronted with difficult situations that will challenge her mentally and physically," she said.

Before the verdict, the Dutch Council for Child Protection said it feared her plans could be linked to a need to impress her relatives, who are keen sailors. "Laura has divorced parents and it is very normal for a child of this age to be very loyal to the parent [he or she] was living with," said Richard Bakker, on behalf of the council. "How much does she identify herself with her father, who is a good sailor?"

The council said it supported the court's decision and called upon Dekker's father "to co-operate with the investigation and ensure Laura's safety".

This year, Dekker was picked up by police in Britain after sailing from the Netherlands alone. Officers were called to a library in the port of Lowestoft on 2 May after being told she was in the country alone.

Dekker, who had been sleeping on her boat, was placed in a care home for a night after her father initially refused a request to come to Britain and escort his daughter home. A police spokesperson said the father believed she could sail back alone. "His attitude was that she was a competent sailor and he was happy with her sailing to the UK." After the first night he agreed to fly to Britain and accompany his daughter in the boat back to the Netherlands.

Although Perham's round the world trip was a success, he had to cope with autopilot failures, rudder problems and bad weather that forced him to stop for repairs several times. Dekker's trip would be much longer than Perham's nine months, to allow her to spend time in ports during poor weather conditions.

Perham set off around the world aged 16. In January 2007 he had become the youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic, at the age of 14. Commenting on Dekker's plans, he said: "Thirteen is a young, young age. But then I sailed across the Atlantic on my own when I was 14 and if I could do that when I was 14 then in theory she could do it when she was 13.

"But, yes, for me age is only a number. It's whether she's got the physical strength, the mental strength and the technical ability. You know, can she strip an engine blindfolded? You know, can she build boats, is she an electrician, is she a mechanic as well – because you can't just be a sailor to do a trip like this."

Dekker's lawyer, Peter de Lange, said: "There is no legal debate about her [sailing] skills." Both of her parents tried to discourage her but she convinced them to let her go, he said.

Dekker would have to drop out of high school to make the trip and teach herself while at sea or in ports. Dutch authorities say such home schooling must be supervised by an adult.

She was born in New Zealand while her parents were on a round-the-world sailing trip and spent the first four years of her life on the ocean. She got her first yacht aged six and has been sailing solo since she was 10. "My parents always knew it was a dream of mine to do this," she told a children's TV programme. "And I want to do it while I'm still young, so I can break the record."

"In the beginning they [my parents] asked if I was sure I really wanted to do it. They have sailed around the world so they know what could happen and that it's not always fun, but I realise that too. But I really wanted to do it so my parents said, 'Good, we'll help you.'"

Guinness World Records would not comment on her case but said it stayed away from many such records. "[We have] a standard policy that does not sanction, endorse or encourage attempts by minors [people under the age of 16] on records which are dangerous or potentially life-threatening," said Daniel Field, a spokesman.
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#445769 - 08/29/09 06:12 AM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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#445770 - 08/29/09 08:42 AM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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It is dangerous for a 13 year old to be alone in a mall, let alone sail around the world. Her parents are either crazy or do not care about her. Sometimes the courts have step in and bring some sense to the issues like this. It is not socialism- it is common sense.

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#445771 - 08/29/09 01:05 PM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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Why do I get the feeling someday soon, a young enterprising 18 year old virgin with a whore's sex drive will come up with the idea of sailing (or flying if her first name is Amelia) around the world while losing her Virginity somewhere along the way....it will be a contest to determine who gets to be the passenger/stuntdick-cherry popper on either the plane or boat, and there will be a side contest/auction to allow interested perverts to determine WHERE and/or in what country/time zone she gets her cherry popped....The entire exploit will be filmed of course, which will later prompt lawsuits from sexually frustrated viewers who complain that the 17 minutes of bloody, crappy sex is buried amidst 46 hours of footage depicting the rest of the voyage, including the part where the girl touches down in Reno (or docks in Seattle) to meet with Dennis Hof and give the fat pimp his cut of the deal since he claims infringement on anyone trying to sell sex in the open market and especially involving virgin auctions. In a surprise plot twist and Artistic Spontaneous Expression, the 18 year old now-former virgin tosses the Stunt-cherry popper and his still-bloody pulsating penis overboard (or out the plane) RIGHT after he fucks her and ejaculates accidentally inside of her ignoring her sultry requests to "feed me, c'mon shoot it in my mouth.....Drench Me! Drench Me!" :Bananablackwidowgianjerkinz:
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#445772 - 08/29/09 04:04 PM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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Has been in the news all day, every day here. I ignored it mostly. In my opinion, she shouldn't be allowed to go. If she does go, however, I hope the boat sinks when leaving the port of departure, so the media can return to covering something worthwhile.
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#445773 - 08/29/09 10:56 PM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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Meddling socialists! What could go wrong?



The flight instructor was flying that airplane not the girl.

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It is dangerous for a 13 year old to be alone in a mall, let alone sail around the world.



It appears she has a *lot* of experience sailing, including extended solo trips. She's probably better equipped than 99% of adult sailors to go around the world.

The problem is that sailing across the open ocean requires more than just being in the 99th percentile. I find it hard to believe she's had enough time to learn all of the tricks, such as dealing with a broken mast in a storm mid-Pacific. I think her age has nothing to do with it - very few *adults* are qualified for such a trip.

A better plan would be for her to go around the world with an experienced open-ocean sailor as an apprentice. Magellan learned a lot on extended trips before his big trip. There's plenty of time for her to break the record afterward.
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#445774 - 08/29/09 11:06 PM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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The flight instructor was flying that airplane not the girl.




"However, both McCreary and Coroner Bill Ryan said investigators will probably never learn whether Jessica or Reid was operating the craft, which had dual controls".
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#445775 - 08/29/09 11:21 PM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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7-year-old Jessica Dubroff was murdered because her parents wanted her to break the record of flying around the world or country on "her own". But the plane was overloaded and they were flying during bad weather. The parents never accomplished anything worthwhile on their own in their lives. So filling the head of a little girl with dreams of making money to provide for her family made her agree to the stunt that took her life and everyone else on board.

I'm sure the parents of this child will feel differently when she's kidnapped by Somali pirates. The country should keep custody of her and never return her back to her parents until she's of legal age and thinking more clearly.

I remember when my parents wouldn't let me stay over friend's homes during sleepovers. But sailing around the world on her own for two years doesn't seem to worry these "parents".


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#445776 - 08/29/09 11:47 PM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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I think in addition to skill sailing probably involves a lot of luck as well. If you're unlucky enough to be caught up in a huge storm theres not much you can do. Its probably good to look into her motives and she could be assessed for her abilities. I think Australia's Jesse Martin was 17 when he finished his around the world sail - he thought she'd be able to do it

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#445777 - 08/30/09 12:18 AM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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"However, both McCreary and Coroner Bill Ryan said investigators will probably never learn whether Jessica or Reid was operating the craft, which had dual controls".



She wasn't *supposed* to fly that takeoff, and the weight distribution and other issues were the instructor's responsibilities.

Moreover, the physical evidence is right there in front of them: he had the controls and she didn't based on injuries. It's not clear why they don't admit it, other than the NTSB agenda to ban young pilots.

(it's like the French NTSB blaming Continental for the Concorde crash because they found a strip of metal on the runway, never mind that there's no reason to suspect the Concord ever hit it, and that the tire was going to blow out anyway due to monumental screwups on that tire assembly in the hanger - nope, the French airline can't be at fault and the report must be written that way)
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#445778 - 08/30/09 12:35 AM Re: Girl, 13, Wants to Sail Around the World Solo
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7-year-old Jessica Dubroff was murdered because her parents wanted her to break the record of flying around the world or country on "her own".



Jessica was a passenger on the flight that crashed and wasn't planned to pilot until after they had taken off. Weight and its distribution caused the crash, and that was the instructor's responsibility. Autopsies after the crash should he was flying the plane as planned and she was not.

Ironically, had the two adults stayed behind with their junk (weight) she probably could have done that flight OK herself.

The sailor girl has apparently already done solo excursions over two months by herself. It sounds to me as though she's got a lot of experience. But sailing the open ocean is a big deal and there's a degree of expertise needed beyond merely "a lot of experience". She has more than enough experience to sign on as an apprentice on a voyage and do it herself after that.
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