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FACT: Most Americans never use the socialized services of the fire department. The Obama administration has been very clear about keeping the status quo when it comes to taxpayer-funded fire departments.

It is time to open the fire department up to private industry. We have the best fire departments in the world in the US, but that doesn't mean that anyone (even non-US citizens) should be able to dial up and have fires put out, etc. There are private companies (Halliburtion, Etc.) who could step in tomorrow and take over every fire department in America and charge the consumer directly.

This is AMERICA. NO FREE FIRE SAFETY.

"Better DEAD than fire truck RED."
-member D.J. Hostettler

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Holy shit. Panzer actually made an intelligent post.

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Dude, is there a sector of the economy that the government can't nationalize and justify it by this example? I mean it makes so much sense! Fire protection is "socialized" and people wouldn't want to see it privatized so everything can be and probably should be "socialized" too. Awesome concept.

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What about ice cream? Cheap socialized ice cream in 3 flavors: vanilla, chocolate and strawberry. That's what we had in Soviet Union, less strawberry. It was called Plombir

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Fuck the people, all I care is what is best for me.

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Fuck the people, all I care is what is best for me.

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Finally, an honest liberal.

Tax the hell out of rich people, I hate them. Fuck their incentives for creating business! Bankrupt the government! I don't care. Spend all that borrowed money on me. For crying out loud, just give me free shit!

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Those rich people in the top tax brackets, they create 80% of the new jobs in this country. Taking away incentives for them to create these jobs, that doesn't bother you?



Just seems the average liberal looks at it as us vs. them. Whereas fiscal conservatives look at ways to enrich the country, create more opportunities for people.

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Yeah? When was the last time a poor person managed to pool enough resources together to create a job?

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nor were they creative enough to get a loan...whatever to start some type of enterprise.

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nor were they creative enough to get a loan...whatever to start some type of enterprise.

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It ain't just whether or not they're clever. There are real obstacles to creating your own business. How you gonna feed your kids while your waiting for the thing to start making money? With fewer obstacles introduced by government, the better for everybody.

And, if that means you don't get to yank away some fat jackass's opportunity away to buy an Escalade, so be it. It ain't the assholes just sitting around on their money who are most of the ones in the higher tax brackets anyway.

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now your throwing in other outside equations into factoring the total picture....not all households are "wife and 1.5 kids"

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the less obstacles your entering the less chance or risk involved.

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now your throwing in other outside equations into factoring the total picture....not all households are "wife and 1.5 kids"

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I'm really not sure if we're talking about the same shit or not anymore...

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the less obstacles your entering the less chance or risk involved.

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Yeah, exactly. And the less free shit the govt. gives away, the less money has to be funneled through the government, the less our taxes are, the less risk involving in starting a business, the more businesses (and jobs) we'll have, and the wealthier we'll be. That's what I was talking about. That's how the average conservative thinks. It's not this us vs. them I hear about from most liberals.

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now your throwing in other outside equations into factoring the total picture....not all households are "wife and 1.5 kids"

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I'm really not sure if we're talking about the same shit or not anymore...

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the less obstacles your entering the less chance or risk involved.

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Yeah, exactly. And the less free shit the govt. gives away, the less money has to be funneled through the government, the less our taxes are, the less risk involving in starting a business, the more businesses (and jobs) we'll have, and the wealthier we'll be. That's what I was talking about. That's how the average conservative thinks. It's not this us vs. them I hear about from most liberals.

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Just seems the average liberal looks at it as us vs. them. Whereas fiscal conservatives look at ways to enrich the country, create more opportunities for people.

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Fuckin' please.

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Alright, cool. I got somebody who was offended.

Claude, 50 words or less, what's the basic idea behind Liberal economics? So, I can make out what the hell these Liberals are thinking. Just like I did for the Conservatives.

The only thing I can make out is Liberals think, "the middle class is the engine for the economy." Which in practise means soaking the successful so as few of them can buy Escalades as possible, and favoring the middle class in economic policies. That's entirely, us vs. them.

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I think you're mistaking me for the kind of moron who discusses economic theory on an internet forum.

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"In its recent posting, 2007 Trends in Executive Pay, the organization notes that average CEO pay was 42 times that of the average employee in 1980. In 1990, the average CEO was getting 107 times that of the average employee. Ten years later it was 525 times. But by 2006 the average CEO was getting “just” 364 times the pay of the average worker."

http://blogs.bnet.com/intercom/?p=1759

Fox News says CEOs < 1980 sucked, and those > 2000 are really talented....

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"In its recent posting, 2007 Trends in Executive Pay, the organization notes that average CEO pay was 42 times that of the average employee in 1980. In 1990, the average CEO was getting 107 times that of the average employee. Ten years later it was 525 times. But by 2006 the average CEO was getting “just” 364 times the pay of the average worker."

http://blogs.bnet.com/intercom/?p=1759 />

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Chum for the stupid, i.e. King, faithfully watching his Fox News to GET ALL OF THE ANSWERS, i.e. "free market", "flat tax rate", unions = anti-American, Ann Coulter = deep-throat-capable "girl", and other lies espoused by such clever journalists such as Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, ad infinitum.

Where are those Pulitzers for the fine, insightful journalism on Fox "News"?

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Where, oh, where, are they???!!!

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Why do you think that is that no one can articulate the Liberal mindset and achieve mass popularity?

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Because the GOP Noise Machine has drowned out any form of real TRUE democracy.....

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If the GOP could only get the liberals back on a boat to Europe they would be sooooooooooooo happy....

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You would be saying….”Get rid of them commies” as you would be packing us up....leave MY America you fucks....you guys would sure love your utopian society.

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I would turn you way…but only if you can sacrifice one of your own….I want 15 minutes to bang Ann Coulter….then if she’s as good in bed as I think….you got a convert.

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Chum for the stupid, i.e. King, faithfully watching his Fox News to GET ALL OF THE ANSWERS, i.e. "free market", "flat tax rate", unions = anti-American, Ann Coulter = deep-throat-capable "girl", and other lies espoused by such clever journalists such as Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, ad infinitum.

Where are those Pulitzers for the fine, insightful journalism on Fox "News"?

Where, oh, where, are they???!!!

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Can we put this stupid fucking thread to bed by pointing out that the Facebook group in question is a goddamn joke?

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Chuck would have never even posted this if they hadn't mentioned Halliburton. That's a pavlovic (no, not the Phoenix Suns player) word for you liberals and always able to force a knee jerk response.

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Either that or Liberal efforts to hit the air waves have been lack luster. See Air America.

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