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#440750 - 08/13/09 12:40 PM
Re: Gunman Who Killed 3, Himself, Hated Women
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Porn Jesus
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The entire argument of religion is that those who believe have the moral high ground. I watch tons of porn and make no such claim. But I will say that I don't think wish-thinking about some guy with a beard makes you any better than someone who thinks it's all bullshit.
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The bible / koran, was written by men
Now you're-a gittin' it! If only the rest of the world could get their head around that concept.
and don't get butthurt (man I hate that phrase) over the jondra thing, mayn. It's a tradition on here.
Edited by tattypatty (08/13/09 12:57 PM)
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#440752 - 08/13/09 01:05 PM
Re: Gunman Who Killed 3, Himself, Hated Women
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The entire argument of religion is that those who believe have the moral high ground. I watch tons of porn and make no such claim. But I will say that I don't think wish-thinking about some guy with a beard makes you any better than someone who thinks it's all bullshit.
But you treat people like you're better or at least smarter than they are. Calling them childish names and treating them like they're stupid is no better than what you say they do to you. I wish you could get your head around that.
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Now you're-a gittin' it! If only the rest of the world could get their head around that concept.
No I got it a long time ago, son. You'll find a lot of Christians who don't believe in a literal translation of the bible. It is a product of the times and people who put it together, but despite your prejudices it does contain wisdom and moral precepts that most people alive today, Christian or not, find right and true.
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#440754 - 08/13/09 01:43 PM
Re: Gunman Who Killed 3, Himself, Hated Women
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#440756 - 08/13/09 02:05 PM
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But you treat people like you're better or at least smarter than they are.
Of all the people on this board, that is most hilarious coming out of your mouth.
I know but it doesn’t change the truth of my statement.
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I have religious friends
Substitute black for religious and you have just what racists say when called on it.
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IRL and we never really get into it. But none of them (even the devout muslim i was just yapping with) want to make their religious beliefs the law of the land.
Really? I’ve been to Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Turkey, and Malaysia. I’ve met lots of people who would love to make Islam the law of the land every where.
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You're a proud American and fan of the Constitution, no? Weren't you a little wigged out when Huckabee said that the Constitution should be changed to be more in tune with God's law? I mean, he isn't Fred Phelps; he was a Governor running for the highest office in the fucking land. Doesn't it bother you just a bit that people were cheering like motherfuckers when he said that?
Wasn’t he speaking to crowd of his supporters? Of course they applauded. Let him make the same speech to the Dem convention and see what happens. Even if he had been elected he had about as much chance of changing the constitution as Obama has of implementing his single payer health care plan.
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Better and smarter? Nah, not really. I'm just a guy on a porn board.
But the 'better' part is pretty much a cornerstone in any religious belief.
Or religion like belief system.
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So you (and many others) acknowledge these books were written by men. Lots of religious folks would quibble with you over that, perhaps even question whether you are a real christian or not....
Lots of Atheist would quibble with the fact that you and others here wear your Atheism like a badge of honor, something to throw in the face of others as proof of your own superiority.
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#440758 - 08/13/09 04:00 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Badge of honour? (see I spelled Canuck style). I could care less. I don't believe. The arguments you make about your travels kinda make my point. Governing from a book of myths ain't exactly awesome. Seems you don't dig on other religions that much. I don't dig on any of them.
ha yeah the 'black friends' thing. What are the chances of having every single person you know being an atheist? Pretty much zero.
Loop, of course not all of them do. But if you are operating from a standpoint that unbelievers are doomed forever, aren't you pretty much looking down on them? Maybe that's a tad simplistic, but most holy books are pretty clear on that point.
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#440760 - 08/13/09 04:23 PM
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Hmmmmm maybe that wasn't the best phrase to use. I just think it's a bit of a struggle to see someone as a peer and neighbour if you think they are going to burn in hell for eternity. Does that make sense?
Penn Jilette kinda touched on that talking about a born-again trying to convert him more out of love etc. But isn't it a little condescending to say you want jews/atheists/teh gays to come to Christ/Mohammed because you love them? Just a thought....
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#440763 - 08/13/09 06:46 PM
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A very good point, Loop. But that's the rub. If one is going to take bits and pieces of the bible/quran , is that person still a believer? I'm grateful that people have stepped back from the more literal interpretations, but I would argue that you could have a half-decent moral compass without any of it.
A serial killer might or might not say that quote, but the sad fact is that a lot of people still go nuts if you don't believe. Look at the rotten shit that got said about Pat Tillman after he got killed in Afghanistan. The guy was doing something he believed in. Was that shit really necessary? By a lieutenant colonel, no less.
The other thing that concerns me: Islam is the fastest-growing religion on earth. And the only branch of christianity on the upswing right now is evangelical (bible literalists). Is that good for society? I'm asking that sincerely, not sarcastically. Anyways, i think maybe this should be another thread.
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#440765 - 08/13/09 07:16 PM
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Thanks. Hey I cannot find the blog anywhere. Does anybody got a link that hasn't been pulled?
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#440767 - 08/13/09 07:36 PM
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If one is going to take bits and pieces of the bible/quran , is that person still a believer?
I don't think I can determine for another person what they are nor would I want to or even care enough to. I think only they themselves can determine that. Also, I don't understand the part about "taking bits and pieces." People do that all the time- at least people that I know.
When I had just moved to LA I meet this shabby looking guy who lived in the Hollywood Hills near Mulholland Drive. The guy slept,dressed formally in suit and tie, in a
coffin in the cellar surround by tanks of piranha fish, and from time to time got up to play dirges on a big electric organ. In the day time he worked as a prop master for the studios.
Once, at his house, I caught him waxing his chest. "Mechanical Men don't have body hair" he said to me. "Pinocchio didn't have body hair" He definitely took his job very seriously. When I was leaving he gave me his business card which only read "God is Love." I remember he really enjoyed to discuss the apocalypse but also had this errie habit of going to the cemetery and putting flowers on the graves. "I wish I knew all of them" he used to say.
It turns out he actually wasn't religious and wasn't crazy. David Lynch was a big fan of his. He actually knew a lot of people in Hollywood but you'd never have known it because he never "looked" the part. He said he only read the bible once, came upon that line, and in his words "that was it." I actually still have his card in my wallet. I remember when he handed it to me he was so serious- like "this ain't no joke kid."
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The other thing that concerns me: Islam is the fastest-growing religion on earth. And the only branch of christianity on the upswing right now is evangelical (bible literalists). Is that good for society? I'm asking that sincerely, not sarcastically. Anyways, i think maybe this should be another thread.
I don't know much about Islam except you have to take at least one pilgrimage to Mecca. As far as the doctrine itself I've never read it, but I doubt it says "Do a Jihad on anyone that doesn't comply with my words." The only Islamic people I know are real peaceful and very family orientated peoples- I've never known an extremist and never been screamed at for not reading the Koran or even knowing what exactly it says. Shit now I might have to read it as I feel very stupid for commenting on something I know nothing of. Maybe we can just ignore what I said.
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