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#435085 - 07/08/09 04:06 PM Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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"Kids at Creative Steps Day Camp were thrilled to go swimming once a week at the Valley Swim Club. But after only one trip to the private club, they were told they couldn't return."
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#435086 - 07/08/09 04:15 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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#435087 - 07/08/09 04:19 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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If the club really is a private club, I support their decision to exclude anybody they want.

If I got together with a few friends and decided to build a private golf course, or a pool, or a gym, or a social club, I wouldn't want anybody telling me who could or couldn't be a part of it.

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#435088 - 07/08/09 07:21 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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If the club really is a private club, I support their decision to exclude anybody they want.

If I got together with a few friends and decided to build a private golf course, or a pool, or a gym, or a social club, I wouldn't want anybody telling me who could or couldn't be a part of it.






They paid the fee and had every right to be there. Unless you want this to turn into Nazi Germany. The only ones changing the atmosphere of that club are the racist, white, pill-popping housewives.

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"I heard this lady, she was like, 'Uh, what are all these black kids doing here?' She's like, 'I'm scared they might do something to my child,'" said camper Dymire Baylor.

"When the minority children got in the pool all of the Caucasian children immediately exited the pool," Horace Gibson, parent of a day camp child, wrote in an email. "The pool attendants came and told the black children that they did not allow minorities in the club and needed the children to leave immediately."







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#435089 - 07/08/09 07:57 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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#435090 - 07/08/09 09:58 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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If the club really is a private club, I support their decision to exclude anybody they want.

If I got together with a few friends and decided to build a private golf course, or a pool, or a gym, or a social club, I wouldn't want anybody telling me who could or couldn't be a part of it.






They paid the fee and had every right to be there. Unless you want this to turn into Nazi Germany. The only ones changing the atmosphere of that club are the racist, white, pill-popping housewives.







Invoking Nazi Germany is the last refuge of somebody who has no intellectual argument and must throw themselves on the purely emotional. Either come up with a real intellectual argument or ask somebody else to discuss the topic with you.

They offered to give the fee back, that seems fitting. They have NO right to be at any private club. It is a tempest in a teapot.

Why do you think that "racist, pill popping housewives" are changing the atmosphere of the club, have you been there? It sounds as if that was exactly the atmosphere of the club before the kids got there, whether you like it or not matters not at all. Besides, you really don't know anything at all about the atmosphere of the club, do you?



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#435091 - 07/08/09 10:17 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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Can one party void a contract on the basis of the other's race? Huh?

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#435092 - 07/08/09 10:51 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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I feel bad for the kids, and the camp they attend should sue the club for any extra they have to pay to get in a different pool this late in the season. In Philly, with a jury, the blacks will win.
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#435093 - 07/08/09 10:56 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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Can one party void a contract on the basis of the other's race? Huh?

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy




A private party in a private club should be able to void an agreement with anybody they want for whatever reason that strikes them, no matter how asinine, as long as they give the money back.

Should the KKK be allowed to march in Skokie, IL?

Should free speech be granted only to people who say things you already agree with, or should it also extend to people who say things you disagree with?

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#435094 - 07/08/09 11:21 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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Seems pretty fucking racist to me.
They took the groups'money, and then saw the kids were black, and decided: "Woooah,...we don't want YOUR kind here; take your money back, and now go somewhere else".
Or did I miss something??
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#435095 - 07/08/09 11:23 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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"When the minority children got in the pool all of the Caucasian children immediately exited the pool," Horace Gibson, parent of a day camp child, wrote in an email."




Just like the scene in "Caddyshack".




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#435096 - 07/08/09 11:37 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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Seems pretty fucking racist to me.
They took the groups'money, and then saw the kids were black, and decided: "Woooah,...we don't want YOUR kind here; take your money back, and now go somewhere else".
Or did I miss something??




That seems about right.

Er, at least in the way that the media spinned it.

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#435097 - 07/08/09 11:53 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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Spend a short amount of time with a group of blacks from Philly and you'll understand why they were refunded their money. The only thing worse would be blacks from Camden, NJ.
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#435098 - 07/09/09 12:43 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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Spend a short amount of time with a group of blacks from Philly and you'll understand why they were refunded their money. The only thing worse would be blacks from Camden, NJ.




Can't really argue with that, but I like to think the children aren't lost causes yet. Maybe if they get a taste of the right side of the tracks, they will realize how fucked up their own community is.
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#435099 - 07/09/09 03:00 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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If they were truly racist, they would want the black kids in the pool. Y'all know damn well most of us don't swim.

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#435100 - 07/09/09 12:42 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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If they were truly racist, they would want the black kids in the pool. Y'all know damn well most of us don't swim.




You are so right, stay out of the deep end.
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#435101 - 07/09/09 02:35 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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all of the Caucasian children




Where did all these Caucasian children come from? How the hell did they get visa to enter the US? Was it a "Caucasian People only" club?

Sidenote for Percy:
Nazi Germany failed to conquer the Caucasus. Hope you sleep better tonight.
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#435102 - 07/09/09 05:29 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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If they were truly racist, they would want the black kids in the pool. Y'all know damn well most of us don't swim.





haaaaaaa. Why is that, anyway?
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#435103 - 07/09/09 11:20 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexi
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If they were truly racist, they would want the black kids in the pool. Y'all know damn well most of us don't swim.





haaaaaaa. Why is that, anyway?




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#435104 - 07/10/09 12:05 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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If the club really is a private club, I support their decision to exclude anybody they want.

If I got together with a few friends and decided to build a private golf course, or a pool, or a gym, or a social club, I wouldn't want anybody telling me who could or couldn't be a part of it.






Nobody's arguing that this isn't a private club and they can do whatever they want (and they did refund the money) It's the fact they are racist assholes. And It's really hard to believe they'd actually want this kind of publicity.
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#435105 - 07/10/09 01:30 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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Nobody's arguing that this isn't a private club and they can do whatever they want (and they did refund the money) It's the fact they are racist assholes. And It's really hard to believe they'd actually want this kind of publicity.




You missed the beginning of the thread apparently. That was exactly what they were arguing.

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They paid the fee and had every right to be there. Unless you want this to turn into Nazi Germany. The only ones changing the atmosphere of that club are the racist, white, pill-popping housewives.




It is hysterical, kneejerk, reactionary bullshit like this which is more dangerous than anything the people at that private club ever did. Gullible people who follow yellow journalism stories meant only to excite the feeble minded have caused more destruction than "racist, white, pill-popping housewives" ever have.
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#435106 - 07/10/09 05:15 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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If the club really is a private club, I support their decision to exclude anybody they want.

If I got together with a few friends and decided to build a private golf course, or a pool, or a gym, or a social club, I wouldn't want anybody telling me who could or couldn't be a part of it.






Nobody's arguing that this isn't a private club and they can do whatever they want (and they did refund the money) It's the fact they are racist assholes. And It's really hard to believe they'd actually want this kind of publicity.



Apparently they want the publicity more than they wanted to let the little niglets into the pool.

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#435107 - 07/10/09 05:34 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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http://www.wbir.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=92839&catid=16

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Philadelphia's Valley Swim Club has apologized for turning away dozens of young swimmers from a local minority-based summer camp and denies their intentions were race-based.

Jim Flynn says he was at the Valley Swim Club on June 29 the day 65 mostly minority kids from Creative Steps Day Camp were at the pool.

Flynn admits he is the first one who complained to the president of the board about the campers, but denied race was the reason.

He says he was worried about safety because of overcrowding.

On Tuesday the Valley Swim Club's board president said there was concern a lot of kids "would change the complexion and atmosphere of the club".

A second statement was issued on Thursday:

"The Valley Club is deeply troubled by the recent allegations of racism which are completely untrue.

We had originally agreed to invite the camps to use our facility, knowing full well that the children from the camps were from multi-ethnic backgrounds. Unfortunately, we quickly learned that we underestimated the capacity of our facilities and realized that we could not accommodate the number of children from these camps. All funds were returned to the camps and we will re-evaluate the issue at a later date to determine whether it can be feasible in the future.

Our Valley Club deplores discrimination in any form, as is evidenced by our multi-ethnic and diverse membership. Whatever comments may or may not have been made by an individual member is an opinion not shared by The Valley Club Board."

Members say two other camps that are not minority based have also been told not to come back and given a refund.

Children from Creative Steps Day Camp reported hearing racist remarks, but members willing to talk to reporters denied those allegations.


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#435108 - 07/10/09 08:33 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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The owner of the private swimming pool sold memberships fr money to people who were willing to pay more to avoid the crowding at public pools. Key points: these members don't have to pay to use a pool - the public pools are open - and they expect something a lot less crowded in return for their money.

The pool owner decided to make a little extra money by selling one-day access to various kid's camps. Problem is, when the buses pull up that pool fills and looks as crowded as any public pool. That's not what the members are paying their annual dues for, and they let the pool owner know about it.

The pool owner knows that people paying annual dues are where the money is, not a few visits from camps, so the camp visits have to stop. Only he doesn't try to fulfill existing obligations & appease dues-paying members, but rather he kicks the camps out *right now* and offers the worst possible reason for it.

Now not only has he made his paying customers unhappy by crowding his pool, removing the only reason anyone has to use a private pool in the first place, but he's also placed the "Racist" tag on any member. In the current economy I bet a lot members think "I don't want the crowding, I don't want my friends thinking I associate with racists, and I don't need this monthly expense."
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#435109 - 07/10/09 09:08 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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more lengthy article about the rebuttal from the club:

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Swim-Club-Members-Nothing-to-Do-With-Race.html

JRV, you are not wrong, I mean yeah its a private club so you expect it not to be jam packed with kids. But, you kinda gotta look at the reality there. Off the cuff, before giving it any 'spin' thought, the president of the club said he didn't want to change the 'complexion and atmosphere' of the club. That was unfiltered reality because that was what he felt, just like the one kid heard someone say 'holy shit whats with all these black kids.'

Let me tell you what, if it had been a group of white kids I'm sure it would have been different, even if they were loud and annoying like kids tend to be.

There new stance that it was because of crowding, capacity, safety is revisionist bullshit because there original racist reason got media attention.

What's worse is that the club members who probably aren't generally racist, got fucked in the ass by the club management, so it's a double fuck you to them.

And even if they really only wanted the policy change due to the crowding, the fact that their club president gave the God awful complexion reason in the first place means that as members they need to own up and demand that guy's resignation, if it's even possible.
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#435110 - 07/10/09 11:09 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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Now not only has he made his paying customers unhappy by crowding his pool, removing the only reason anyone has to use a private pool in the first place, but he's also placed the "Racist" tag on any member. In the current economy I bet a lot members think "I don't want the crowding, I don't want my friends thinking I associate with racists, and I don't need this monthly expense."




Well put, JRV!


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There new stance that it was because of crowding, capacity, safety is revisionist bullshit because there original racist reason got media attention.




If he didn't give the "complexion" reason, there wouldn't be national attention. Such poor choices of words are impossible to expunge, intended or not.



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What's worse is that the club members who probably aren't generally racist, got fucked in the ass by the club management, so it's a double fuck you to them.




You KNOW that any public person affiliated with this club is going to have it used against them by their political enemies. And, chances are that person had NOTHING to do with any part of this.


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as members they need to own up and demand that guy's resignation, if it's even possible.




He might be the owner of the club.

If he is, good luck finding new members. Anyone up for being tagged a "racist"???
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#435111 - 07/10/09 01:46 PM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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Let me tell you what, if it had been a group of white kids I'm sure it would have been different, even if they were loud and annoying like kids tend to be.




Actually, some of the camps were "white kids" camps. All the camps got the boot, but one was predominantly black, and given the words the pool president used nobody doubts what he meant.

Whether the guy is racist or not, I can't think of many worse ways to handle the situation.
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#435112 - 07/11/09 10:05 AM Re: Pool Boots Kids Who Might "Change the Complexion"
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Really stupid idea to allow these camps to pay to come to the pool in the first place. If I am a member I do not want a bunch of kids of any color in the pool- kids are nasty and befoul pools at any given opportunity
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