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Lol. I'm referring to values that go back much further (like belief in God,the practice of religion, internationalism over nationalism etc etc). They've expoused the same lefty values in every country that they've been a minority in for hundreds of years. That's the real reason the Nazis wanted them gone. It wasn't because they were so-called "Christ killers" or were just "different" (as they commonly claim). It was because of the values taught by so-called "progressive" Jews on university faculties, in the media, in big business etc etc).
God, I really hate to argue with anti- Semites. They're like Truthers. The arguements are endless and deranged.
I agree with Coke as far as university libs go. But the Jews certainly have no monopoly on owning the social engineering that goes on on college campuses. Liberalism, in it's hardcore adherants, is no less a religion than any other.
As for Nazi Germany, the Jews were certainly not running the show as far as pre- Hilterian Germany. Hitler and his inner circle were big fans of 19th Century race baiters. They also realized that a revolution needs an enemy...scapegoats. Jews were not the only scapegoats. Gays, Communists, intellectuals, Gypsys, Slavs and every other non- Western European race were fair game. The Nazis may have wanted to eradicate Jews because of a percieved attempt at social engineering, but the fact is they cloaked that desire in the old tried and true packaging of Christ- killing, money lending, blood libel and of course the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. And Coke, you can cloak it in whatever you want, but you're no different from the Jew baiters of any generation. But the fact remains is that you're the newest generation that needs, for whatever reason, a scapegoat.
The Jews aren't the bogeyman. The fear and hatred of them is worse than a bogeyman. The bogeyman can't hurt anyone. His minions are the ones who sow the seeds of true distruction.
My piece is said. I doubt I'll respond to anything else said about this. Unless of course someone says something I can really use to give myself a giggle.
Barry
I never said Jews were running the show at any point in Germany. And I never said there weren't people who disliked Jews for idiot reasons like "they're Christ killers". Those were the ignorant superstitious people, however, at the bottom of society (like today's KKK).
The reasons that serious minded rational European leaders (like several Czars) wanted Jews out of their countries is an entirely different matter. Hitler and several of his cronies were nuts, but most top Nazis were pragmatic technocrats. It's too simplistic to say they were all just "hypnotized by hate".
A Jewish minority has always been a corrosive force in countries that sought strength and unity based on nationalism. Jewish scholars themselves understand and agree with this. Lets use France as an example (it was long considered more anti-semetic than Germany). In past centuries Jews had a difficult time there. To improve their condition, they tended to advocate secularism and progressivism at every opportunity (like our ACLU of today). This was most visible in the local newspapers they owned and in their political activities. It's not a coincidence that Marx and many early Bolsheviks were Jewish. It's no accident that the ranks of early socialists and union agitators were disproportionally packed with Jews.
Moreover, their push to improve their own condition through secularism and progressivism was logical and completely understandable. But at the same time it was destabilizing for their host countries. To research political protest movements in 1800s Europe is to research Jewish history in 1800s Europe. They are one in the same.
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