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#432573 - 06/27/09 01:42 AM
Why does max get more hate.
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
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Anyone know why max gets more hate than any other porn producer for doing the same thing as anyone else.Max and rocco do the same rough degrading sex,yet max gets villified and rocco gets praised.
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#432575 - 06/27/09 03:28 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/05/07
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Anyone know why max gets more hate than any other porn producer for doing the same thing as anyone else.Max and rocco do the same rough degrading sex,yet max gets villified and rocco gets praised.
My guess would be that rocco generally does it with passion and style, not to mention the girls, 8 times out of 10, really seem to be enjoying it.
rocco also doesn't dress his girls up in the same lolita outfit in every shoot, never features pissing or puke that i remember, and actually has really fucking hot girls who want to do porn.
When I watch a rocco movie i think, "wow, i wish i could meet a girl that dirty and that hot."
when i watch a max movie, i think; "wow, where did he find this emotionally crippled female."
Most of maxes girls look uncomfortable, unhappy, and have to fuck an unattractive guy with a tiny cock who sounds like a moron.
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#432576 - 06/27/09 03:35 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/20/09
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Loc: France
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Hello !
To be honest, i only saw one movie of Max Hardcore, it was a little sample of 1 minute. I thought it was very bizarre, because the girls look like Barbies, Max keeps reapeating "Yeah" 100000000000 times...no other word but "Yeah"...and sometimes he do some variations "OOOOOOh Yeah"...and i still can't understand the Lipstick thing...
I mean, we do use lipstick in order to get more nice, but how come Max uses it A LOT on those girls ??? is it a sexual thing ???
So, in my opinion, i don't know what to think about Max movies...hate ? no, i don't hate him, but i only find his movies a little bizarre...
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#432578 - 06/27/09 09:46 AM
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His snappy threads and good looks really make it hard for average guys to feel adequate. I mean at least with Ron Jeremy we can go "Hey, if he can do it". Max is the porno George Clooney. It makes it hard to compete...
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#432579 - 06/27/09 11:23 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 843
Loc: Sydney Australia
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Anyone know why max gets more hate than any other porn producer for doing the same thing as anyone else.Max and rocco do the same rough degrading sex,yet max gets villified and rocco gets praised.
I've yet to see Rocco Sifredi insert a speculum into a whores butt making her anus gape then urinate into said anus filling her lower colon with old man piss.
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#432580 - 06/27/09 02:02 PM
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i only saw one movie of Max Hardcore, it was a little sample of 1 minute. I thought it was very bizarre, because the girls look like Barbies, Max keeps reapeating "Yeah" 100000000000 times...no other word but "Yeah"...and sometimes he do some variations "OOOOOOh Yeah"...and i still can't understand the Lipstick thing...
you've just described the perfect porno - and you don't understand it for the same reason i don't understand musicals.
"Yeahh..."
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#432582 - 06/27/09 07:39 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
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Jammie Gillis did things ten times more vile to women and he's considered kind of a cultured elder statesman of porn so go figure. I thinks it's because he's so exposed and is kind of the poster child for rough porn so he became the sacrificial lamb.
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#432585 - 06/27/09 10:48 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 12/25/08
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Loc: Sydney Australia
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I think the question is why do so many people like max hardcore?
My theory(which I've stated before elsewhere) is that a lot of people started looking at or watching porn when they were too young, so a lot of the thrill of it was it was something they would more than likely get in trouble for if they got caught by Mom or Dad.
When they find that they are able to have as much spank-off material they want without getting in trouble and that most people think watching porn is normal, that thrill is gone for them. This causes the person to turn to porn that they think others will find disgusting, obscene, and/or just plain wrong to bring back that thrill of being caught for them.
And how much more wrong, without being stuff like kiddie porn or real rape and snuff films, can you get than Max Hardcore?
desensitization. You get desensitized to porn the more you watch it so you end up looking for more extreme stuff.
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#432586 - 06/28/09 04:36 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 06/16/07
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Loc: Slumberland
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Jammie Gillis did things ten times more vile to women and he's considered kind of a cultured elder statesman of porn so go figure.
10 times more vile, really?
I assume you mean his incredibly obscure scat videos, is scat really 10 times more vile than puke and piss? Can you break down the porn calculus on that one for me?
The Rocco/Max comparison is a retarded internet 'truism.' I love it when some jerk-off brings it up like they've had an original thought.
It also happens to be bullshit.
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#432587 - 06/28/09 03:22 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/05/07
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rocco has that tender, romantic side too. it's like he loves & worships women, he just understands what pieces of shit they are and fucks them accordingly. it makes sense when he does it. max, who i enjoy occasionally, is obviously working out some serious issues on these bitches. like before porn, he was just some angry redneck who couldn't get any. your answer has something to do with the fact that women actually like rocco and want to fuck him.
it's true though, max doesn't get the credit for alot of his early, inovative camera work. i'm having a hard time saying rocco has more style now that i think about it.
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#432590 - 06/28/09 03:52 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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#432592 - 06/28/09 04:28 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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#432594 - 06/28/09 06:53 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 07/14/06
Posts: 775
Loc: Hollywood, CA
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If you check my earlier Thread you can see I've been a porn fan for a long fucking time. That being said, Yes Jamie Gillis was pretty extreme is his time, his then girlfriend Serena was also hardcore, she was the first to do a pregnant bondage video, loved to be tied up to a toilet and raped...
In fact, I still have an old video called "Pieces?" Jamie rapes a whore pretty hard, she even pukes up and he fucks her in her vomit while he controls her with his belt around her neck - this was ~ 78 so pretty hard for the times.
For me the two important people of this genre at the time were Max and Stagliano, both really started with the gonzo themes, during the late 80’s, 90’s porn could get pretty fucking boring, I mean with stars like Billy Dee, Paul Thomas and Randy West, every scene sucked IMHO!!!
I started watching Max when he was doing scenes for LBO, this was before all the “teen†stuff. Max had some great under the chin skull fucking shots, and if you recall, he did some pretty massive facial shots back then! I must admit, his use of teens and speculums and the “experience†is pure porn genius.
Why the hate for Max? I’ve gotten many emails from the Church from many diehard Fans, Max fans are not very vocal, but from what I’ve seen - he has many. I’ve also had some whacko’s emails that attack me with a ferociousness that would make even Max blush. Most are people that can’t seem to see the line between exhibitionism and adult choices and actual rape. Their hate usually shows they have some other deep seeded issue with sexuality and the freedoms to express it.
Edited by Eminence Front (06/28/09 07:02 PM)
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#432595 - 06/28/09 06:58 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/05/07
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his then girlfriend Sabrina was also hardcore
do you mean "serena"? she's my all time favorite porn slut.
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#432596 - 06/28/09 07:01 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 07/14/06
Posts: 775
Loc: Hollywood, CA
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his then girlfriend Sabrina was also hardcore
do you mean "serena"? she's my all time favorite porn slut.
LOL Yes Serena, I was thinking of the other Latina Sabrina (one of my favs) as I wrote that. Thanks,
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#432600 - 06/29/09 05:07 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 12/25/08
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Loc: Sydney Australia
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The crazy German whore with bleached white hair?
Veronica Moser?
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#432601 - 06/29/09 06:30 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/20/09
Posts: 119
Loc: France
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yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah... OOOOOOOH yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...
please is there any scenario writer to give a little change to Max "dialogue" ???
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#432602 - 06/29/09 07:15 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 12/25/08
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yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah... OOOOOOOH yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...
please is there any scenario writer to give a little change to Max "dialogue" ???
Does it matter?
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#432603 - 06/29/09 07:22 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/20/09
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of course it matters !
Loll, for those who haven't got it, my post was to be taken as humor...
I think that if Max used to say things like "you like that you cunt ?" or "oh yeah ! fuck you baby !" etc etc...it would have been more "funny"...but it's my opinion again.
Whereas all those "yeah" well...no surprises in the dialogues...
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#432605 - 06/29/09 01:52 PM
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Porn Jesus
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^^ I beg to differ.
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#432606 - 06/29/09 02:02 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
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It's not "yeah" it's "yiiEEE-ah-huhh!!" Or something like that. Maybe Chilled Stoli can help with the entomology of the word.
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#432607 - 06/29/09 02:13 PM
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Whoremaster
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BugWhisperer, I've read about those videos as well, even had the opportunity to watch them but that kind of porn isn't to my taste.
But nothing you mentioned, outside of the scat, is far from what I've seen in a Max video.
I've never heard of Gillis working as a gay bottom.
He did get his dick sucked by dudes and trannies on film a few times, but I don't think getting your dick sucked makes you a bottom?
BTW Serena was amazing.
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#432609 - 06/29/09 04:40 PM
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Nicelisa2009 is Darrah.
nah, Nicelisa2009 = a dude. and i have my doubts he's old enough to even be on here.
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#432611 - 06/29/09 05:31 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
Posts: 8433
Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
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First off, no fan of Rocco am I.
For me, my dislike of Max is that it all seems so contrived, so phony. Most of the girls seem to not have the faintest idea of what he's trying to accomplish. It's the feel of his work, the vide, I guess. It seems to me that he's fufilling his fantasies rather that those of the viewers.
Plus the cowboy hat and yellow shirt are awful fey.
Just my 2 cents,
Barry
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#432612 - 06/29/09 09:29 PM
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Bukkake Boy
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yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah... OOOOOOOH yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...
please is there any scenario writer to give a little change to Max "dialogue" ???
mr. hardcore has game in the dialogue department. he actually has many talking points that he revisits repeatedly while fucking up these whores
1.) the girl he is fucking is fat, she needs to get skinny (probably needs to stick four fingers down her throat and puke)
2.) does the girl he's fucking have a younger sister? will she bring this younger sister over to mr. hardcore's house in the future?
3.) making sure blame for the unfortunate situation the girl he's fucking currently finds herself in is assigned correctly (hint: it's not mr. hardcore's fault)
4.) feeding lines to the young lady/making sure she understands what he's doing (ex: "this is my fuckstick. i'm going to ram it down your throat so you can get skinny like a real model...now say, 'that hurts, mister!'")
5.) there is sometimes a thorough line of questioning, often done in the midst of fucking, about if/when/how the young lady's father or stepfather or brother molested her, and/or threats that this escapade with mr. hardcore will be revealed to the young lady's parents if she doesn't behave
additionally, mr. hardcore has his own distinct style of sexual slang that he lets flow during his scenes. dude can spit. he favors mostly single syllable words and harsh consonant sounds. he uses the same words over and over, combining them to form new terms.
combine any word from the first group with any other word from the second group, then just add that to any word from the third group, and make it max hardcore sexy time at your house.
throat, ass, puke, fist, zoom
fuck, rape, piss, pump, ream
whore, teenie, cunt, your nine year-old sister, stupid slut
some miscellaneous max hardcore terms- cocksocket, fuckstick, "get skinny"
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#432613 - 06/30/09 12:47 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 04/16/09
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yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah... OOOOOOOH yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...yeah...
please is there any scenario writer to give a little change to Max "dialogue" ???
mr. hardcore has game in the dialogue department. he actually has many talking points that he revisits repeatedly while fucking up these whores
1.) the girl he is fucking is fat, she needs to get skinny (probably needs to stick four fingers down her throat and puke)
2.) does the girl he's fucking have a younger sister? will she bring this younger sister over to mr. hardcore's house in the future?
3.) making sure blame for the unfortunate situation the girl he's fucking currently finds herself in is assigned correctly (hint: it's not mr. hardcore's fault)
4.) feeding lines to the young lady/making sure she understands what he's doing (ex: "this is my fuckstick. i'm going to ram it down your throat so you can get skinny like a real model...now say, 'that hurts, mister!'")
5.) there is sometimes a thorough line of questioning, often done in the midst of fucking, about if/when/how the young lady's father or stepfather or brother molested her, and/or threats that this escapade with mr. hardcore will be revealed to the young lady's parents if she doesn't behave
additionally, mr. hardcore has his own distinct style of sexual slang that he lets flow during his scenes. dude can spit. he favors mostly single syllable words and harsh consonant sounds. he uses the same words over and over, combining them to form new terms.
combine any word from the first group with any other word from the second group, then just add that to any word from the third group, and make it max hardcore sexy time at your house.
throat, ass, puke, fist, zoom
fuck, rape, piss, pump, ream
whore, teenie, cunt, your nine year-old sister, stupid slut
some miscellaneous max hardcore terms- cocksocket, fuckstick, "get skinny"
You forgot "That's REAL sexy" and "That's cute" I also remember in his earlier less pseudo-pedophile days along the same time as he was doing the under the chin throat plowing shots Eminence Front was describing he was fond of using the phrase "Stove Pipe" while gaping a woman's asshole.
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#432614 - 06/30/09 11:57 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 10/05/08
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combine any word from the first group with any other word from the second group, then just add that to any word from the third group, and make it max hardcore sexy time at your house.
throat, ass, puke, fist, zoom
fuck, rape, piss, pump, ream
whore, teenie, cunt, your nine year-old sister, stupid slut
some miscellaneous max hardcore terms- cocksocket, fuckstick, "get skinny"
I think a soundboard is in order
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