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I wouldn't go as far as comparing Sharia to christian fundametalists religious law, but it's close enough. And not only in the US, I'm afraid.

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Also, I notice some of you are too dumb to differentiate between the actions of Muslim Jihadis and marginalized radical Christian kooks. Here are a few of the differences. Mainstream Christian leaders and mainstream Christian doctrine condemn the killing of other human beings. The Muslim clerics who issue fatwahs (death warrants) on people who, for example, author cartoons or books that disrespect "the prophet" ARE mainstream Muslim leaders. And their Koran actually tells them that if they kill (martyr) themselves to take out infidels (non-muslims), they will be rewarded with "72 black-eyed virgins" (sex slaves - lol) in the afterlife (besides a sweet crib).

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nobody said it was pretty, but it beats bringing another worthless piece of human garbage into the world.

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Worthless piece of human garbage? That's a bit harsh. Poor little Tess here was only guilty of having cystic fibrosis.

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I would rather potential parents have abortions than more unwanted children. The earth has plenty of those.

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This particular child was very much wanted. The parents had just been persuaded that abortion was the "humane" thing to do.

Here's the mother's take on it afterwards:





Dear Sharyn:

Thank you for listening. Here are the pictures of Tess. I feel so bad for the smiles on my face in some of the photos. I was in shock by no means was I happy. To me Tess was beautiful because she was my daughter. I left the somewhat naked photos out because they are graphic and I am somewhat ashamed of having allowed someone to leave those horrible marks on her body. What kind of mother am I? I let that butcher slash her up. I was supposed to protect her. Now all I do is miss her.

Thanks again

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The parents had just been persuaded

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Think of it as evolution in action. Cystic fibrosis would be a terrible thing to grow up with and eventually die from.

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Anyone who isn't serious enough about raising children that can be persuaded to do otherwise probably should be persuaded to do otherwise. Especially foolish people shouldn't have kids.

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So, IB, who would you punish? Put that mother in prison? The doctor? What should the law be?

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And their Koran actually tells them that if they kill (martyr) themselves to take out infidels (non-muslims), they will be rewarded with "72 black-eyed virgins" (sex slaves - lol) in the afterlife (besides a sweet crib).

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That's not actually in the Koran, but thanks for playing Coke!

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You really think it takes an extremist Christian whackjob to off Tiller

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You really think it takes an extremist Christian whackjob to off Tiller

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No Ivor. Any whacked out extremist will do.

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So, aside from your litte tirade against me, what do you think of Tiller's handiwork?

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So, aside from your litte tirade against me, what do you think of Tiller's handiwork?

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I don't understand the need for late term abortions. They sound rather distasteful to me.

But, whatever was going on was between women and their doctor. What the doctor was doing was legal and constitutionally protected.

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And this leads directly to the second question you overlooked: if the prevaling Government of a territory sanctions something, however heinous, is it never legitimate to resist it through force?

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-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy

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That's a mighty big assumption you're making about the shooter's motivations.
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What about other chronic conditions, like for example Osteogenesis Imperfecta?

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The people who do late-term abortions are the ones who don't flinch. They're like the veterans you sometimes see in war documentaries, quietly recounting what they faced and did. You think you're pro-choice. You think marching or phone-banking makes you an activist. You know nothing. There's you, and then there are the people who work in the clinics. And then there are the people who use the forceps. And then there are the people who use the forceps nobody else will use. At the end of the line, there's George Tiller.

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The people who kill abortion providers are the ones who don't flinch. They're like the veterans you sometimes see in war documentaries, quietly recounting what they faced and did. You think you're pro-life. You tell yourself that abortion is murder. Maybe you even say that when a pollster calls. But like most of the other people who say such things in polls, you don't mean it literally. There's you, and then there are the people who lock arms outside the clinics. And then there are the people who bomb them. And at the end of the line, there's the guy who killed George Tiller.

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No, that's a dictionary definition with no comment attached. It was in response to your question about violent resistance to government.

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On a more serious note, there was a really well written piece in Slate today ( Tiller's Killer ) which argued forcibly from both sides of the debate and really pointed out the difficulties as you move further out to the margins:

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On a more serious note, there was a really well written piece in Slate today ( Tiller's Killer ) which argued forcibly from both sides of the debate and really pointed out the difficulties as you move further out to the margins:

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The problem with the comparison is that Tiller killed maybe 16,000 late-term babies whereas Scott Roeder killed one 67 year old man.

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Ok to kill GWB?

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How many undisputably innocent people were deliberately killed directly at the hand of GWB?

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So if I were a mafia don, anything my goons negates me of any wrong doing?

And Hitler did not kill any Jews himself, so that rules him out of any war crimes? And pol pot, any extremist Imam, Stalin and pretty much anybody else?