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#426550 - 05/24/09 06:04 AM Going Dutch - Nice article
freestylah Porn Jesus Registered: 12/28/07 Posts: 4856 Loc: The 4th International	Going Dutch - How I learned to love the European welfare state Nice article, which explains nicely how things work over here. It might be an eye-opener for some of the more anxious reactionary forces on here, but maybe I hope for too much open mindedness. Anyway, have fun. _________________________ The only thing you got that I want, is your suffering.
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#426551 - 05/24/09 06:21 AM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
Crocodile Pervert Registered: 12/26/07 Posts: 2056	Quote: Nice article, which explains nicely how things don't work over here. Fixed. _________________________ "If you keep making fun of me, I might just get pissed and not post on here anymore. Start taking me seriously. I'm a student now" Fatja
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#426552 - 05/25/09 02:49 AM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
Ivor Biggun Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer Registered: 10/09/04 Posts: 1176	Quote: Going Dutch - How I learned to love the European welfare state Nice article, which explains nicely how things work over here. It might be an eye-opener for some of the more anxious reactionary forces on here, but maybe I hope for too much open mindedness. Anyway, have fun. The article doesn't seem tremendously accurate, it describes your system as having "universal" healthcare coverage, when it's actually state-regulated private insurance. That's significantly different, it costs around €100 a month for the basic cover and is not funded out of that horrendous 52% tax rate, so cannot be used a a valid justification for it. Also, despite being supposedly mandatory, people do fall through the gaps. I know of someone who quite recently avoided seeking medical care in Amsterdam because of the cost. _________________________ "If I were a guy, not swallowing would be a deal breaker. So what if you cook and clean? I can get a maid for that." - Gia Jordan
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#426553 - 05/25/09 04:23 AM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
freestylah Porn Jesus Registered: 12/28/07 Posts: 4856 Loc: The 4th International	Am glad someone made the effort of actually reading it. The EUR 100 for basic coverage is partly compensated for by the government, depending on your income. But you are correct in your assessment that it ain't a real 'universal' coverage. Quote: I know of someone who quite recently avoided seeking medical care in Amsterdam because of the cost. That's just plain stupid. If one is insured (basic coverage), the insurance company pays everything after the first EUR 155.00. If someone is not insured, it's their own fault and, eventually, you will get hunted down for not being insured. This will get you some nice fines, up to EUR 100 per uninsured month. _________________________ The only thing you got that I want, is your suffering.
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#426554 - 05/25/09 07:11 AM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
Ivor Biggun Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer Registered: 10/09/04 Posts: 1176	Quote: That's just plain stupid. If one is insured (basic coverage), the insurance company pays everything after the first EUR 155.00. She probably had the basic cover, as €150 was the sum she mentioned. That's hardly an insignificant sum to many people. If I get ill, the most I have to pay is a standard prescription charge of about €8. Anyway, if the writer really wanted to extol the virtues of the Dutch system, soft drugs and hard sex would be better selling points. _________________________ "If I were a guy, not swallowing would be a deal breaker. So what if you cook and clean? I can get a maid for that." - Gia Jordan
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#426555 - 05/25/09 07:21 AM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
charin Gag Factor Guru Porn Jesus Registered: 07/15/05 Posts: 5290 Loc: Dayton	I read it, very interesting. Thanks. -Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy _________________________ Fuck 'em all but nine.
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#426556 - 05/25/09 12:34 PM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
freestylah Porn Jesus Registered: 12/28/07 Posts: 4856 Loc: The 4th International	Quote: Quote: That's just plain stupid. If one is insured (basic coverage), the insurance company pays everything after the first EUR 155.00. She probably had the basic cover, as €150 was the sum she mentioned. That's hardly an insignificant sum to many people. If I get ill, the most I have to pay is a standard prescription charge of about €8. I guess I haven't been clear enough. The EUR 155.00 is for a whole year. Example: I take medication, so the first EUR 155 spent by the insurer is on my account. I have to pay it to the insurance company, I can do this in monthly installments if necessary. Once the EUR 155 limit is reached, everything after is free. Even if I break my neck. How many times do you pay the EUR 8 prescription charge? Every time you get a recipe filled? _________________________ The only thing you got that I want, is your suffering.
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#426557 - 05/25/09 04:16 PM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
Coke banned by Monkey Whoremaster Registered: 06/22/07 Posts: 2656 Loc: Polekatz, Rte 43	Bla bla bla. That's all well and good for the old world. America was built by pioneers who believed in rugged individualism. That's why we're superior to your stupid little country. Unfortunately too many of our later immigrants have been from parts of the world with undemocratic, collectivist traditions. As a result, we finally have a lefty internationalist (rather than a patriotic American) in the White House. It may be the beginning of the end. America could devolve into a Western European-style welfare state and then finally into a Mexican-style shithole. Thanks liberals! _________________________ "You have been banned from making any new posts or sending private messages. The reason for this ban is: meh, cause i can"
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#426558 - 05/25/09 04:26 PM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
freestylah Porn Jesus Registered: 12/28/07 Posts: 4856 Loc: The 4th International	Quote: Bla bla bla. That's all well and good for the old world. America was built by pioneers who believed in rugged individualism. That's why we're superior to your stupid little country. Yes, Corke, you're superior. You, especially, are very much superior. Superior to all the amoebe living in the water over here. USA: Built by pioneers, destroyed by people like Coke Stevensen. _________________________ The only thing you got that I want, is your suffering.
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#426559 - 05/25/09 07:04 PM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
Spunko Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer Registered: 08/04/06 Posts: 1155 Loc: U.S. Outpost 31	Not to be a dick or anything but... If Socialism(Euro Welfare State variety) is so superior to Capitalism(War Mongering American variety)....why is there still Poverty,(Higher)Unemployment and Fiscal Deficits in those countries? _________________________ I know you gentlemen have been through a lot,and when you find the time...I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter tied to this fucking couch!
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#426560 - 05/26/09 12:17 AM Re: Going Dutch - Nice article
Claude Goddard Whoremaster Registered: 06/16/07 Posts: 2512 Loc: Slumberland	Yeah man, why haven't you created a goddamn utopia over there Dutchie?!! Obviously because you haven't completely wiped out poverty your entire system is BS and inferior to the US of A.
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