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if there are these "natural" human values that are simply intrinsically present in all people, then there should be no need for us to work towards a goal of spreading them to other cultures. they should already be present.



I'm not sure if what I put in bold above is what you state as your personal opinion or as a representation of widely held beliefs in the Western world.

Either way, it's completely fucked up. The notion that the 'Enlightened Values' of the West are the best around and should be implemented everywhere (if necessary by force), is so very fucking stupid and arrogant, it can hardly be described in words.

Making ones political and/or economical and/or philosophical system an export product, where there is no demand, has not once been a success. Not in the distant past, not in the near past, not now and not in the future.

I don't think I need to give some examples.
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