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I think you're going to have to do a better job of defending the notion that something isn't "natural" because you can find somebody somewhere that doesn't share the same trait. Are you claiming that nothing can be natural unless no person can be found that does not have this condition? You don't believe in any natural conditions of humanity? Does that also mean that no act is unnatural, unethical, or immoral only illegal or legal?



if there are these "natural" human values that are simply intrinsically present in all people, then there should be no need for us to work towards a goal of spreading them to other cultures. they should already be present.

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Furthermore, it is no logical argument against the notion of universal ethical constants to point out that some groups of people disagree with you and behave unethically as that is exactly the reason why we should pursue them.



by suggesting that there is good reason for us to attempt to pursue these "universal ethical constants" (which, by the way, will be identical to our personal ethics) it is an admission that not everyone understands the world the same way. if it were true, there would be no need to pursue such a thing, as it would simply already exist, naturally.

saying that one way (our way) is "the natural way" is to disregard the fact that our way, like everyone elses, has been shaped by our personal culture, history, and ideology. history internalized, normalized, and then forgotten as history.
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