10mm seems to be what i've found peace with-close to .357 ballistics without the burst eardrums and speedloaders.

unfortunately, there's really only the full-sized glock and the colt deltas from years back that don't suck, i've got a hideous plastic gun resultant of this.

anyhow, i have no issues with 10mm recoil given how much .375H/H mag and upwards i've shot-flinching with a handgun other than a snubbie 357 or the like isn't on my radar.

i don't care how many walls i shoot through if i'm going to be killed, i'm probably grabbing my double in .470NE and my new toy from sako in .338 lapua with a fixie 10x on top first. things die at those kinds of fpe-kevlar, ceramic,ndwhatever is tinfoil. the double's really short, like m-4 short so both barrels are just ruining a human and the lapua, although i'm hardly a master of long-distance work yet is good for removing halves of people 2000 yards away. fmj is going through any engine block even if it's got armor easy unless the thing's from a military base. no, not a true anti-material round, but a sako's 1/8 what a chey-tac intervention is and it's not unpleasant to shoot a lot like ,50bmg ends up. if i need to hunt a t-rex or attack chopper i'll get a semi barrett to piss it off. brownings can take shit out, but if you're into that shit, go buy some shoulder-mounted tank-busters and sams from the cold bloc or whatnot, i've got issues if i'm considering anti-material aspects of a round. the .338's turning pretty much anything used for cover into a bad idea anyhow, i've got no beef with traffic copters.

anyhow, the 10mm's freakishly fast vs. any other non fn five-seven semi-auto, alaskan guides are using the plastic semis more and more over wheelguns, they're reliable and take day-glo sites and a cree led/laser which means you're not one-handing a .500sw while holding a light to see which pretty much eliminates control on a follow-up shot.

i'm still using any handgun as a purely defensive tool, think about a fal or g3 spewing .308s on roids while you've got an 1911 or double stack 9mm at 30 feet. the simplest 700 bolt action was what the lapd had to borrow to end that west hollywood shootout=rifles kill and they can do it at a distance where you're not hitting anything with a sig o buckshot. an m240's about as scary to be shot at by as any reasonably portable firearm. that's like a ww2 fighter's wing gun used to strafe or shoot aircraft down spitting out big bullets hundreds of times at you. the battle rifles like the fal were hard to control and instantly empty in full-auto, m-60's and such can be put on target and once it's firing you're not doing shit back to the thing.

the sako in even my unskilled hands is hitting what it's supposed to at well over 700 yards, bullet drop and the need to triangulate anything is irrelevant for the 500-1000yard range, that's scary if you've got a .223 and m9 and suddenly someone explodes like they're a watermelon and you're clueless what to attribute it to.

dropping both hammers on the nitro express should reliably stop a bull elephant if you don't shit your pants and shoot it's thigh. it's overkill for polar bears, kodiaks, anything here. it's meant to stop suv-sized things close and mad at you, the fucking bullets are so out of regular proportion of shit it's worth looking the NE's up=the .700NE puts out 20mm cannon numbers, there's a few dg cartridges considerably bigger than what i shoot, .577's and such. the recoil in that range becomes a part of shooting the gun, which is where i run out of macho and assume pulling a shot under pressure is a reality. then i'm going straight to an abrams tank if i'm undergunned against a prehistoric bear or an spinosaurus or dozen raptors.

but long guns fuck things up, the ten's shit=fan stuff.

mass is such a pain to get approval for handguns companies like hk don't try