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#421880 - 05/06/09 05:24 PM
Another heartwarming story from Florida
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
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A Tampa judge denied bail Wednesday for a Florida man charged with first-degree murder in the death of a 3-month-old child, who authorities say was thrown out of a moving car. Police say infant Emanuel Murray died after his mother's ex-boyfriend threw him from a car on a Florida interstate. Police say infant Emanuel Murray died after his mother's ex-boyfriend threw him from a car on a Florida interstate. Richard Anthony McTear Jr., 21, was arrested Tuesday, hours after a confrontation at his former girlfriend's apartment in which he snatched the infant, Emanuel Wesley Murray, the Hillsborough County sheriff's office said. The child's body was found about 4 .am. Tuesday on the side of Interstate 275 in Tampa, Florida, by a local television photographer on his way to work. The photographer, WTVT's Jason Bird, said he stopped when he spotted something by the roadside "It had to be a baby doll but it was too big to be a doll," Bird told CNN affiliate WFTS in Tampa. "I almost passed out, I started shaking," said Bird. A preliminary autopsy determined the child died of blunt trauma to the head, the county medical examiner's office said. Police were called to the apartment of McTear's former girlfriend about 3:15 a.m. Tuesday. The mother, Jasmine Bedwell, 17, told investigators that McTear had hit her several times and threatened "to kill the both of y'all," the sheriff's department said in a statement announcing the charges. McTear threw a car seat containing the child across the room during the fight, causing the boy to fall onto the apartment's concrete floor, investigators said. He then picked up the boy and drove off in his blue Chevrolet Impala, throwing the child out while on the interstate, the sheriff's department said. Video on CNN affiliate WFLA TV showed McTear being led out of a Tampa police squad car after his arrest. He ducked his head as TV cameras surrounded him on his walk into a police building. When asked by reporters if he had thrown the child out of the car window, McTear answered, "It's a dirty game. A dirty game." McTear is not related to the child, said sheriff's spokeswoman Debbie Carter. McTear is facing additional charges of burglary with battery, felony battery, aggravated child abuse and kidnapping, the sheriff's department said. LINKI like to consider myself a pretty creative and imaginative person but I can not even begin to think of an adequate mode of punishment for this waste of molecular structure.
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#421883 - 05/06/09 07:18 PM
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he should be put in a cell with Dity D....and D could tell him about stories from "the glory holeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
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#421884 - 05/06/09 07:24 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 11/27/07
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I think all infants should be killed.
The earth is not in need of any more humans. And I don't want anyone who was produced by fuckups like this to enter the gene pool.
All children should be killed.
Humans are everywhere, let's stop making more.
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#421885 - 05/06/09 08:10 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/01/07
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Loc: Off the mortal coil
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He is obviously insane and needs to be humanely and permanently removed from society.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
.45 to the back of the head is as humane as I'd be willing to be to that shithead.
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#421890 - 05/07/09 04:08 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
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Loc: Joshua Tree National Park
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Mentally ill? Manic depression or schizophrenia is a mental illness. Violent psychosis is fucked in the head. Best known cure is to remove the head.
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#421891 - 05/07/09 04:16 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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I think all infants should be killed.
The earth is not in need of any more humans. And I don't want anyone who was produced by fuckups like this to enter the gene pool.
All children should be killed.
Humans are everywhere, let's stop making more.
Good strategy. That should work for the next 60 years or so. Then what?
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#421894 - 05/07/09 04:49 PM
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I like this "geek" poster. I'd like to pit it against Coke. Permission to house it outdoors and feed it raw meat for a month?.
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#421896 - 05/07/09 05:26 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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I like this "geek" poster. I'd like to pit it against Coke. Permission to house it outdoors and feed it raw meat for a month?.
The geek has more in common with Coke than not. Sorry.
<here comes the dog pile>
"Brace for impact captain!"
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#421897 - 05/07/09 05:26 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 11/27/07
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Haha, I already knew about voluntary human extinction. I would just like to take a more active approach.
Abortion is my favorite method of birth control.
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#421899 - 05/07/09 05:49 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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Haha, I already knew about voluntary human extinction. I would just like to take a more active approach.
Abortion is my favorite method of birth control.
Could speed it up a bit-- Backdoorman just bought a .45 Colt he might be willing to lend out. Just trying to help.
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#421901 - 05/07/09 06:32 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/09/03
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Florida is like the Long Island of the south. The weirdest shit keeps happening there.
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#421903 - 05/09/09 11:05 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
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I hope he gets sodomized with an axe handle before he ever makes trial.
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He is obviously insane and needs to be humanely and permanently removed from society.
Who wants to bet they try to get this fuck off on an insanity plea, Law & Order style?
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Torturing the mentally ill won't bring the baby back, or stop other insane people from going berserk. Having a humane culture may make horrible acts like this rare.
Please say you're NOT serious. Liberal pansy-ism like this is the reason this country is fucked beyond repair to begin with. If barbarianism is too heinous as punishment for crimes like this, we deserve to get nuked by the Iranians for being too pussified.
@ WCD: George Carlin had some great ideas for death penalty (for which this is a no-brainer, IMO) on his Back In Town set. Some of which included Live, televised crucifixtions, and human catapult...right into a brick wall. Suggest listening for anyone! 
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#421904 - 05/09/09 04:32 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
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Loc: Joshua Tree National Park
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They're going to have a hard time making an insanity plea stick with the remarks he made to the television cameras when they were taking him in.
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#421905 - 05/09/09 09:47 PM
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Registered: 07/15/05
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Anyone who does something like this, is (fill in the blank with whatever term you want to use, I am not here to debate semantics, mentally ill, insane, crazy, etc.). It is not safe for the person to be among the rest of us. We do not kill, we do not torture. This person should be shunned from our society, but there is no good reason to abandon the very principles we use to hold him to task. It is our duty, as a society, to put this poor soul in some locked place with essentials. Life without parole.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#421906 - 05/10/09 11:53 AM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/02/09
Posts: 1541
Loc: Mississippi
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Anyone who does something like this, is (fill in the blank with whatever term you want to use, I am not here to debate semantics, mentally ill, insane, crazy, etc.). It is not safe for the person to be among the rest of us. We do not kill, we do not torture. This person should be shunned from our society, but there is no good reason to abandon the very principles we use to hold him to task. It is our duty, as a society, to put this poor soul in some locked place with essentials. Life without parole.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
But that is just my point. Uh, the fill in any word you want to use part... I think the words everybody else wants to use are criminally responsible.
The fact of the matter is that he is most probably not legally insane, and there is not a mental illness that would excuse what he did. Neither of these are issues of semantics. Everybody is entitled to believe whatever they want about capital punishment, but to throw around words meant to justify your position (e.g. he's "insane" so shouldn't be killed, or he's "mentally ill" and so shouldn't be killed) that are factually incorrect don't help.
In other words, if your position is that we shouldn't kill him because he is either mentally ill or insane and then he is pronounced to be neither mentally ill nor insane, why shouldn't we kill him? I wasn't trying to be nit picky about how you used the words, this was the point I was trying to make.
I guess it's just my opinion that a person should have the courage of their convictions to say, "Sure the guy beat up a woman, kicked an infant across the room, kidnapped the infant and then beat it up some more and threw it out the car window on the highway to die by the side of the road and he isn't insane and he isn't mentally ill, but I don't believe in the death penalty so he should be taken care of and supported by society for the rest of his life."
Anyway, I wasn't trying to be nit picky about semantics (there are enough people around here who do that already), or attack your position, I was just curious about your thoughts against the death penalty without the crutch of mental illness or legal insanity to see if they still held up. I don't think you have to justify your position, I was just curious, that's all.
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#421908 - 05/10/09 02:07 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 717
Loc: Off the mortal coil
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Anyone who does something like this, is (fill in the blank with whatever term you want to use, I am not here to debate semantics, mentally ill, insane, crazy, etc.). It is not safe for the person to be among the rest of us. We do not kill, we do not torture. This person should be shunned from our society, but there is no good reason to abandon the very principles we use to hold him to task. It is our duty, as a society, to put this poor soul in some locked place with essentials. Life without parole.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
"Poor soul"? What about the kid? This fuckstick ended this kid's life in a rather gruesome manner. In that instant, he went from "poor soul" to someone who committed infanticide. There's no defending him and there's no mercy granted.
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#421910 - 05/10/09 04:13 PM
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Registered: 07/15/05
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I oppose capital punishment, but that's not the point.
I don't think there need be any finding here as far as mental capacity or sanity or whatever. If you do something like this, you should be humanely removed from society. If cops and shrinks want to examine him, I guess that's up to him, but it should have no bearing on what is done with the guy. Lock him up, care for him in a humane manner, and that's it. Same for repeat pedophiles, serial killers, and Alex Panzer. Life in prison, no parole.
But don't soil our collective hands by torturing prisoners or killing them, or failing to provide minimal things like security and medical aid.
An Emo Philips joke - if capital punishment makes the government a murderer, then the prison system makes it a gay dungeon master.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#421911 - 05/10/09 05:14 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 1613
Loc: Liqour Hole, Kentucky
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I oppose capital punishment, but that's not the point.
I don't think there need be any finding here as far as mental capacity or sanity or whatever. If you do something like this, you should be humanely removed from society. If cops and shrinks want to examine him, I guess that's up to him, but it should have no bearing on what is done with the guy. Lock him up, care for him in a humane manner, and that's it. Same for repeat pedophiles, serial killers, and Alex Panzer. Life in prison, no parole.
But don't soil our collective hands by torturing prisoners or killing them, or failing to provide minimal things like security and medical aid.
An Emo Philips joke - if capital punishment makes the government a murderer, then the prison system makes it a gay dungeon master.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
Maybe you can take them to some AA meetings and maybe even a MLK March, then maybe you could take them back to your camper and watch Gag Factor movies together. Show them the love they never had, maybe that will reform them.
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#421914 - 05/10/09 09:51 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/23/06
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"Sure the guy beat up a woman, kicked an infant across the room, kidnapped the infant and then beat it up some more and threw it out the car window on the highway to die by the side of the road and he isn't insane and he isn't mentally ill, but I don't believe in the death penalty so he should be taken care of and supported by society for the rest of his life."the way you were "restating the position" sounded nothing like the way a person who opposes the death penalty would argue it. at least, not a smart person. it sounds, and this is just me, like the way someone who is in favor of the death penalty and has a great interest in making people who are in favor of it sound like idiots who just want to ignore the glaring fact that they are totally wrong might restate it. but i'm a notoriously myopic liberal and my vagina is troubling me tonight, so, either way. 
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#421915 - 05/10/09 10:07 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/02/09
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Loc: Mississippi
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"Sure the guy beat up a woman, kicked an infant across the room, kidnapped the infant and then beat it up some more and threw it out the car window on the highway to die by the side of the road and he isn't insane and he isn't mentally ill, but I don't believe in the death penalty so he should be taken care of and supported by society for the rest of his life."
the way you were "restating the position" sounded nothing like the way a person who opposes the death penalty would argue it. at least, not a smart person. it sounds, and this is just me, like the way someone who is in favor of the death penalty and has a great interest in making people who are in favor of it sound like idiots who just want to ignore the glaring fact that they are totally wrong might restate it. but i'm a notoriously myopic liberal and my vagina is troubling me tonight, so, either way.
You are correct in stating that I did not sound like somebody who supports the death penalty. I am weird that way. I believe in intellectual honesty. These (as I understood them) were the dispassionate facts. I know nothing more than what was reported (correct or false in it's accuracy), but these were the facts everyone was using to state their position.
According to what I read:
He did hit the mother
He did kick the baby
He did kidnap the baby
He did throw it out the window of his car on the highway
The autopsy showed additional injuries consistent with beating it before throwing it out the window.
Nothing supports the claim of legal insanity.
Nothing supports the suggestion of mental illness.
Charin, himself, suggested "humanely" warehousing the man for the rest of his life; which demands that all of us give a portion of our income in taxes to support him for the rest of his life.
According to what I read, these are the facts that we were presented with. Being for or against the death penalty should not allow you to twist the reality to suit your position in order to make it more palatable for you or to make your argument stronger.
I was intrigued that Charin had the balls to stand up to those facts and state his opinion, and wanted to learn more.
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#421916 - 05/10/09 10:23 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/23/06
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Charin, himself, suggested "humanely" warehousing the man for the rest of his life; which demands that all of us give a portion of our income in taxes to support him for the rest of his life.
yes, and as i pointed out, killing the man requires us to give a lot more. this is the point i was trying to make. if you are, indeed, against the death penalty and are just trying to clarify the position, it seems worthwhile to note this.
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I was intrigued that Charin had the balls to stand up to those facts and state his opinion, and wanted to learn more.
again, you may call this "intellectual honesty," but to me it appears that you are discounting the position. you are framing it as his opinion flies in the face of the facts, that he is somehow brave for expressing this opinion when it has no grounding in reality. maybe i'm still misunderstanding you. 
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#421917 - 05/10/09 10:34 PM
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Registered: 10/12/07
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I hope they do have the death penalty in florida . People living there shouldn't have to pay taxes to the state for life to keep him in jail for life .
Charin , if he does get the death penelty , he will probably be on death row for about 12-15 years . He can make many license plates while in jail for the U.S. during that time . Just think of that as self re-habilitation and his way of giving back to society and making up for killing a defensless child. Should make you feel better about the whole situation 
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#421918 - 05/10/09 10:39 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/02/09
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Charin, himself, suggested "humanely" warehousing the man for the rest of his life; which demands that all of us give a portion of our income in taxes to support him for the rest of his life.
yes, and as i pointed out, killing the man requires us to give a lot more. this is the point i was trying to make. if you are, indeed, against the death penalty and are just trying to clarify the position, it seems worthwhile to note this.
Not true. Honesty demands I admit that I did not (and will not) read the article you attached. I have had too much to drink and am busy watching TV while I am writing this, so I cannot also read articles--maybe tomorrow. I disagree with your assertion, but even if I did agree with it, it is the difference between what *MAY* cost more and what is a definite certitude.
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I was intrigued that Charin had the balls to stand up to those facts and state his opinion, and wanted to learn more.
again, you may call this "intellectual honesty," but to me it appears that you are discounting the position. you are framing it as his opinion flies in the face of the facts, that he is somehow brave for expressing this opinion when it has no grounding in reality. maybe i'm still misunderstanding you.
If you cannot see why defending this dirt bag's right to a long and comfortable life takes balls, I could never explain it to you.
Maybe I can be clearer tomorrow.
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#421919 - 05/10/09 10:43 PM
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The only other alternative is to give him life in prison, in general population and let jailhouse justice take it's course. Either that or put him in a sealed room with a hand gun and let him pull a Budd Dwyer.
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#421920 - 05/10/09 11:05 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/23/06
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as far as i know, (and i'm not claiming to be the most informed person in the world on capital punishment issues, so if someone has some credible information i'm not aware of, please jump in here) it's not really debated that capital punishment, as it exists now, is outrageously expensive, (much more expensive than life in prison) due to the process. as i understand it, pro-capital punishment peeps counter this by arguing that we should streamline the process, (eliminate "dubious" legal maneuvering, limit appeals, etc.) making it more cost effective to obtain and carry out death penalty sentences. i do appreciate your intellectual honesty in saying you didn't read the article you're disagreeing with, though. respect.
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If you cannot see why defending this dirt bag's right to a long and comfortable life takes balls, I could never explain it to you.
again, you're insinuating that life in prison is not a punishment. i'm glad you're on my side of the argument, i'd hate to hear what you'd say if you were in favor of the death penalty.
to me, in this argument, the burden is on the pro-death penalty folks. i don't feel like it takes any kind of balls to argue against the taking of a life, even if you are going to say it's the life of a dirtbag. and certainly no one in this thread has actually attempted to make any argument in favor of capital punishment, unless you count brainstorming methods of gruesome revenge killing to be a persuasive debate technique. but, yeah, get back to me tomorrow, my vagina is killing me anyway.
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#421921 - 05/11/09 05:36 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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I hope they do have the death penalty in florida . People living there shouldn't have to pay taxes to the state for life to keep him in jail for life .
FL and TX often race to see who can click the lights off of more convicts. But, Utah is my favorite with hanging and firing squad still on the books.
Now as for how to actually click those lights off, may the Geek suggest a quick reread of history. Nobody did it better than the Romans. The Inquisition came in as a close second, but the difference is that the Catholics were not actually trying to kill the poor piece of meat at the center of attention, but were just looking to clear their mind a little-- or, at least, that was often the offical story.
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#421924 - 05/11/09 10:11 AM
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#421925 - 05/11/09 11:31 AM
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#421926 - 05/11/09 12:06 PM
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What surprises me more than her dark side is that she is another PW from Jersey. It seems like every third broad in porn is a Jersey product.
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#421927 - 05/11/09 12:36 PM
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There are also many whores from California, Florida...even Alabama of all places. It seems to me that whores are products of certain childhood experiences, frequent abuse illegal substances, preference for certain type of guys, and most importantly certain character traits, not a place of birth.
OT: Every time I see Cam's perfect pussy, I hope she has many female relatives. Too bad she doesn't wanna have kids. It's a shame that such a perfect genes will die with her.  [/fanboi]
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#421929 - 05/11/09 02:18 PM
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Registered: 10/12/07
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I hope they do have the death penalty in florida . People living there shouldn't have to pay taxes to the state for life to keep him in jail for life .
There is no state tax in FL. At least not state income tax,which I think is what you were suffering to.
Suffering to
Well somebody pays for the prisons to keep florida rejects locked up . Not really fair to keep this loser alive on someone elses dollar .
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#421930 - 05/11/09 04:27 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/26/09
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Many of the lowest of our society who need help are not attractive, but it is mine and your duty to help care for them.
Sir, that is bull fucken shit. I do not have any "duty" to care for anyone, save myself and my family. If I happen to do give a crap about anyone other that myself or those closest to me, it is called "charity", not "duty".
Take your cum-by-ya it-takes-a-village crap to a church or the peace corps, where it belongs. And spend your own money while you are at it.
Edited by geek (05/11/09 04:28 PM)
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