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#420226 - 04/29/09 02:45 PM
Rolling Stone writer Says: Sasha Grey's the Smartest Person I've Ever Met in That Industry"
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http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=34523From www.rollingstone.com- Sasha Grey is the adult industry’s reigning princess of porn, a rock & roll 21-year-old with an actual mission statement — “Most of the XXX I see is boring, and does not arouse me physically or visually. I am determined and ready to be a commodity that fulfills everyone’s fantasies” — and few taboos. Rolling Stone’s Vanessa Grigoriadis jumped into Grey’s wild world for a profile in the new issue, and describes the Kate Beckinsale lookalike as “the smartest person I’ve ever met in that industry” (Grigoriadis has previously visited porn sets to profile XXX goddesses like Jenna Jameson). Though the pornography biz has been reshaped by the recession and the digital age, Grey has managed to make the jump from bondage flicks on the ‘Net to a Steven Soderbergh film at the Tribeca Film Festival. But as Grigoriadis quickly learned, Grey is far from a typical porn star. She’s co-managed by Dave Navarro, pals with Billy Corgan and cites French director Jean-Luc Godard in everyday conversation. While most porn actresses would jump at the chance to get naked on the Howard Stern Show, Sasha wants to appear on the shock jock’s program with a Palestinian flag wrapped around her breasts to confront the man she believes is a closet racist. Soon, Grey will be seen on the big screen as a call girl in Soderbergh’s The Girlfriend Experience (watch the film’s trailer here). “She definitely has higher aspirations, far larger than porn,” says Grigoriadis. “She definitely wants to get into indie mainstream film; I can’t see her being interested in any Michael Bay projects,” she adds, referring to the director of blockbusters like Transformers. “She took acting lessons for 10 years in Sacramento, so she definitely wants to be an actress.” Grey also told Grigoriadis she aspires to be like controversial French author/director Catherine Breillat, who elevated conventional pornography into something more artistic and sumptuous. “She is not that interested in a lot of the porn she shoots anymore,” Grigoriadis tells Rock Daily. “She said, ‘I don’t need to see genitalia up close; I don’t need to see a dirty yellow couch against a white wall. I want to see something different, like this is not exciting to me.’ ” Grigoriadis, who profiled Taylor Swift for the country crossover’s Rolling Stone cover story, reveals she sees some similarities between the unlikely pair of young stars. “There’s some interesting comparisons there about two women who are incredibly precocious for their ages and really driven, ambitious and also really sure that their point of view is the right one, and that what they are doing is liberating for women,” Grigoriadis says. “Both of them are very clear that they think that what they’re doing [is feminist], even though Sasha’s case is completely different than Taylor’s.” Grey, a 1970s film nut and bohemian who avoids listening to the radio, told Grigoriadis she’s never even heard of Taylor Swift. “To me, what’s most important about her is her impact on feminism,” Grigoriadis says. “Porn has been one of its most divisive issues because it hits on such a raw level to so many woman because here of the fantasies of men, and it’s of course better to live out those fantasies through pornography than to try to do them in the real world, but the fact is the real world is impacted by it. Grey says, ‘If you look at me and you think “Here’s a woman who’s intelligent, cognizant and making her own choices, and you still tell me that what I’m doing is wrong, screw you, because that should end the debate.’ ”
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#420227 - 04/29/09 02:54 PM
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Funny how pws think they deserve praise for being able to make their own choices.
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#420229 - 04/29/09 03:51 PM
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From the article: Quote:
Sasha Grey is the adult industry’s reigning princess of porn, a rock & roll 21-year-old with an actual mission statement — “Most of the XXX I see is boring, and does not arouse me physically or visually. I am determined and ready to be a commodity that fulfills everyone’s fantasies”
All of Sasha Grey's work is boring and does not arouse me physically or visually.
Funny, though, how she refers to herself as a 'commodity'. Is he on the same list as 'lean hogs' and 'frozen pork bellies'?
I think I know what Skeeter would say.......
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#420230 - 04/29/09 04:03 PM
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#420232 - 04/29/09 04:32 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Ugh, she is so boring and is capable of a single facial expression. This movie is guaranteed to be terrible.
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#420234 - 04/29/09 05:21 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Ugh, she is so boring and is capable of a single facial expression. This movie is guaranteed to be terrible.
Boring? That's the last adjective I'd use to describe Sasha Grey.
Have you seen any of her early work? In particular, her scene in Gang Bang #5 was quite titilatiing. And I also enjoyed the scene she did for Fucked & Bound. She's got one of the dirtiest mouths in porn, and I love the natural bush she's had for the past few years. She takes me back to the golden years of porn. And I love the fact that she's kind of a hippy.
And from the interviews I've read/seen with her, she always seems wise beyond her years. This girl is going places, and she knows what she's doing.
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#420235 - 04/29/09 05:24 PM
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Porn Jesus
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End of thread. Judge of character Charles has spoken. 
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#420236 - 04/29/09 05:51 PM
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Well..I admit I dont know much about Sasha,but she seems to come off well in interviews. Its nice to see that a mainstream mag like rolling stone is at least WILLING to show someone in the adult industry as having a brain and possibly actual talent(I say possibly since I have never seen any of Sashas work)is refreshing.
Asia Carrera is extremely intelligent. Love her!
Though it may be a lower percentage,there are those of us in this industry that have college degrees and arent just drugged out, spread legged,sex robots!
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#420238 - 04/29/09 06:04 PM
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Porn Jesus
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cameronkeys wrote: Quote:
Though it may be a lower percentage,there are those of us in this industry that have college degrees and arent just drugged out, spread legged,sex robots!
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. Keep living the dream!
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#420240 - 04/29/09 09:13 PM
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Ugh, she is so boring and is capable of a single facial expression. This movie is guaranteed to be terrible.
Boring? That's the last adjective I'd use to describe Sasha Grey.
Have you seen any of her early work? In particular, her scene in Gang Bang #5 was quite titilatiing. And I also enjoyed the scene she did for Fucked & Bound. She's got one of the dirtiest mouths in porn, and I love the natural bush she's had for the past few years. She takes me back to the golden years of porn. And I love the fact that she's kind of a hippy.
And from the interviews I've read/seen with her, she always seems wise beyond her years. This girl is going places, and she knows what she's doing.
Go back to ADT, you one-trick pony.
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#420241 - 04/29/09 09:26 PM
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Registered: 06/16/07
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The mainstream media (which is made up mostly of liberals)...
Goddamn liberals and their pro-porn articles, why can't we have more anti-porn articles written by conservatives.
The article is obviously moronic though, why do they always feel the need to mention Godard? What the hell does he have to do with the porn that Grey makes?
BTW on a related note, my forum name is the one-time pseudonym of the director of the classic roughie Winter Heat.
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#420242 - 04/29/09 10:04 PM
Re: Rolling Stone writer Says: Sasha Grey's the Smartest Person I've Ever Met in That Industry"
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 11/21/04
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While most porn actresses would jump at the chance to get naked on the Howard Stern Show, Sasha wants to appear on the shock jock’s program with a Palestinian flag wrapped around her breasts to confront the man she believes is a closet racist.
I would love to see her ass take this shit on the road...to any raghead country...see what they think about her twat there. 
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#420243 - 04/29/09 11:49 PM
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From www.rollingstone.com- Sasha Grey is the adult industry’s reigning princess of porn, a rock & roll 21-year-old with an actual mission statement — “Most of the XXX I see is boring, and does not arouse me physically or visually. I am determined and ready to be a commodity that fulfills everyone’s fantasies” — and few taboos. Rolling Stone’s Vanessa Grigoriadis jumped into Grey’s wild world for a profile in the new issue, and describes the Kate Beckinsale lookalike as “the smartest person I’ve ever met in that industry” (Grigoriadis has previously visited porn sets to profile XXX goddesses like Jenna Jameson).
Though the pornography biz has been reshaped by the recession and the digital age, Grey has managed to make the jump from bondage flicks on the ‘Net to a Steven Soderbergh film at the Tribeca Film Festival. But as Grigoriadis quickly learned, Grey is far from a typical porn star. She’s co-managed by Dave Navarro, pals with Billy Corgan and cites French director Jean-Luc Godard in everyday conversation. While most porn actresses would jump at the chance to get naked on the Howard Stern Show, Sasha wants to appear on the shock jock’s program with a Palestinian flag wrapped around her breasts to confront the man she believes is a closet racist.
Soon, Grey will be seen on the big screen as a call girl in Soderbergh’s The Girlfriend Experience (watch the film’s trailer here). “She definitely has higher aspirations, far larger than porn,” says Grigoriadis. “She definitely wants to get into indie mainstream film; I can’t see her being interested in any Michael Bay projects,” she adds, referring to the director of blockbusters like Transformers. “She took acting lessons for 10 years in Sacramento, so she definitely wants to be an actress.”
Grey also told Grigoriadis she aspires to be like controversial French author/director Catherine Breillat, who elevated conventional pornography into something more artistic and sumptuous. “She is not that interested in a lot of the porn she shoots anymore,” Grigoriadis tells Rock Daily. “She said, ‘I don’t need to see genitalia up close; I don’t need to see a dirty yellow couch against a white wall. I want to see something different, like this is not exciting to me.’ ”
Grigoriadis, who profiled Taylor Swift for the country crossover’s Rolling Stone cover story, reveals she sees some similarities between the unlikely pair of young stars. “There’s some interesting comparisons there about two women who are incredibly precocious for their ages and really driven, ambitious and also really sure that their point of view is the right one, and that what they are doing is liberating for women,” Grigoriadis says.
“Both of them are very clear that they think that what they’re doing [is feminist], even though Sasha’s case is completely different than Taylor’s.” Grey, a 1970s film nut and bohemian who avoids listening to the radio, told Grigoriadis she’s never even heard of Taylor Swift.
“To me, what’s most important about her is her impact on feminism,” Grigoriadis says. “Porn has been one of its most divisive issues because it hits on such a raw level to so many woman because here of the fantasies of men, and it’s of course better to live out those fantasies through pornography than to try to do them in the real world, but the fact is the real world is impacted by it. Grey says, ‘If you look at me and you think “Here’s a woman who’s intelligent, cognizant and making her own choices, and you still tell me that what I’m doing is wrong, screw you, because that should end the debate.’ ”
I'd love to debate with her. she's always spouting off philosophical jargon, but to grasp it on a conceptual level is a different story. It's like people who know bible versus. It doesn't mean they know scripture.
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#420248 - 04/30/09 12:48 PM
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Porn star gets positive coverage in mainstream press, XPT response...shit on her and the magazine providing positive coverage.
That's about right.
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#420250 - 04/30/09 01:50 PM
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Some Rolling Stone articles are written by 14-year-olds.
Didn't you see 'Almost Famous' (based on the teen life
of Cameron Crowe)?
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#420255 - 05/02/09 07:29 AM
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those who say sasha grey is "smart" have a one digit IQ
OK, you and every one else who seems to think that Sasha Grey is a moron, please list the porn chicks who are smarter than her. I've heard just one example so far, Asia Carrera, and while Carrera can play the piano, what she has written on her website and her interviews contain *claims* of great intelligence, but no real evidence of such. Grey comes across sounding smarter. She is certainly doing better career wise.
Note, I am not claiming any great brilliance on Grey's part. Just want a list of the "smarter" porn chicks. Some actual evidence, in terms of interviews or verifiable achievements outside porn would help.
(BTW, not defending Grey as a porn babe -- haven't seen any of her scenes and she isn't really my type).
No one cares how smart she is, she's a porn whore.
She seems to think the sun shines out of her arsehole every morning and it's getting annoying hearing about how smart and super fabulous she is.
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#420258 - 05/02/09 10:23 AM
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I get the impression she is a big head, she only allows comments on her my space page that lick her arse. He is also too repeatative with her dialoge.
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#420259 - 05/02/09 12:25 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Now I know why her name's Sasha Grey.   There's a resemblance, for sure. I've never seen any of her scenes, to this day. Are they strokeable? 
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#420260 - 05/02/09 12:37 PM
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HAHA! They are nothing special. And if you're anything like me you'll find her single facial expression wears thin.
Also she claims to write her own dirty talk dialog before the scene even happens which makes it sound even more contrived than it usually does.
She isn't horrible looking or anything and you could do much worse, she's just really dull.
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#420263 - 05/02/09 02:07 PM
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OK, you and every one else who seems to think that Sasha Grey is a moron, please list the porn chicks who are smarter than her.
Please do us one better fanboi, show us ONE who admits to being dumber than a box of fucking rocks.
They're all in denial. Some are intelligent, many are completely useless without their cunts & cakeholes as a way to make a living. A very select few realize the happy medium between intelligent and stupid, all while utilizing that to their advantage.
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#420266 - 05/02/09 08:51 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mensans
http://www.nndb.com/people/017/000022948/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Rutgers_University_alumni
http://www.socyberty.com/People/Hollywoods-Top-Five-Brains.168501
Just a cpl from a quick google search. Seems her claims are real.
Fail. That's two freely editable wiki articles, one user-submitted content site, and one agregator that could have got it's information from the other sources. IOW, still proof of nothing. Anyone can achieve this level of "evidence" just by repeating a claim often enough. It doesn't take much to get something picked up by bloggers and websites with low editorial standards.
That said, I've no idea if Asia's claims are actually true or not, I'm just making a point. I think such claims should always be met with healthy skepticism, not least because in my experience most people of genuine high intelligence don't feel compelled to boast about it.
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Seems odd things to lie about..Rutgers(why not just say Yale if you are lying?),Carnegie Hall,Mensa...these would be pretty easy for any reporter to disprove.Yet nobody ever has all these years...
The sort of reporters interested in Asia are hardly investigative journalists who would bother to check.
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The question is..why cant you accept that there might be just a few of us who have a brain? I realize intelligence may not be an epidemic among PW's, but there are a few of us affected by it! 
I never disputed that, I'm just skeptical of Asia's claims.
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#420268 - 05/02/09 09:12 PM
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There's a general contradiction people make out when they think about porn and its whores and compare it to more prestigious jobs. Whores get fucked on video, that's why they have to be dim. When some video whores address this, they are laughed at, which is fine. They might just want to get heard, it doesn't matter.
The Grey seems to have accomplished more popularity than the usual video whore. This always has people judging her performances and looks, which should be expected in her line of work. Maybe the young woman who is Sasha Grey doesn't really care what her porn alter ego is described as as long as it's mentioned.
I doubt very much that most porn watchers care about the personality, intelligence and character of the whores they look at, as long as they're able to distinguish the video whores from the women behind the video whores. Probably this isn't possible at times.
It's entertaining to hear when this distinction isn't made by the whore herself, in an audio interview Skronker of Porn Star Podcasts on ADT did with Katsuni. It's at around 10:30, right before the end. She tells about the at times rough tone on ADT and how it can affect her and her fellow whores. The amount if naivity is just fantastic. "...they are women first..." Right.
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#420269 - 05/02/09 09:47 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mensans
http://www.nndb.com/people/017/000022948/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Rutgers_University_alumni
http://www.socyberty.com/People/Hollywoods-Top-Five-Brains.168501
Just a cpl from a quick google search. Seems her claims are real.
Fail. That's two freely editable wiki articles, one user-submitted content site, and one agregator that could have got it's information from the other sources. IOW, still proof of nothing. Anyone can achieve this level of "evidence" just by repeating a claim often enough. It doesn't take much to get something picked up by bloggers and websites with low editorial standards.
That said, I've no idea if Asia's claims are actually true or not, I'm just making a point. I think such claims should always be met with healthy skepticism, not least because in my experience most people of genuine high intelligence don't feel compelled to boast about it.
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Seems odd things to lie about..Rutgers(why not just say Yale if you are lying?),Carnegie Hall,Mensa...these would be pretty easy for any reporter to disprove.Yet nobody ever has all these years...
The sort of reporters interested in Asia are hardly investigative journalists who would bother to check.
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The question is..why cant you accept that there might be just a few of us who have a brain? I realize intelligence may not be an epidemic among PW's, but there are a few of us affected by it!
I never disputed that, I'm just skeptical of Asia's claims.
Well I said it was just a quick search. I'm sure given the time and inclination someone could easily prove or disprove her claims. And given how most people want to do everything they can to "prove" that anyone in the adult industry(esp females) are mindless morons...I'll err on Asia's side since nobody has disproved her in all this time.
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#420272 - 05/03/09 03:29 AM
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those who say sasha grey is "smart" have a one digit IQ
I totally agree with you
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#420273 - 05/03/09 03:42 AM
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#420274 - 05/03/09 09:23 AM
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OK, you and every one else who seems to think that Sasha Grey is a moron, please list the porn chicks who are smarter than her.
Please do us one better fanboi, show us ONE who admits to being dumber than a box of fucking rocks.
I'm still waiting. All I've heard is your total non-sequitur (dumb people by definition are too dumb to recognize their stupidity) and more stuff about Asia Carrera playing in Carnegie Hall. Sorry, but that means nothing -- you can be a no-talent in a mediocre amateur orchestra or choir in the NYC area and end up performing in Carnegie Hall. When you or Carrera are the featured soloist with the Berlin Philharmonic, hell with the Cleveland Philharmonic, call me.
On the other hand you don't end up by accident with the lead in a movie by someone who's won a couple of awards here and there http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001752/awards What used to be the measure of mainstream success -- a guest shot on Married With Children?
And if anyone wants to call me a fanboi, bring it, but get the sluts I'm a fan of straight: Janey Robbins, Erica Boyer, Lili Marlene -- and other porn sluts who look like sluts, act like sluts, are sluts. Sasha Grey? Pass.
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#420275 - 05/03/09 10:34 AM
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Porn Jesus
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I heard that Asia playing Carnegie Hall actually was when she was a kid, she was part of a school group that came there to perform one day. That's what I've heard from various industry people. I've never met Asia, so who knows.
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#420276 - 05/03/09 10:43 AM
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On her home page it says: Quote:
Played classical piano at Carnegie Hall at 13 & 14
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