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problem is, universal health care doesn't mean run by the government. haven't any of you had to go to the DMV, do you really want that level of service from a health care provider?



Personally, I've never had a bad experience at the DMV.

I have, however, had nightmare experiences with insurance companies (health, auto and home)
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