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#407695 - 03/17/09 12:14 AM Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals -YES
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The Bamster now plans to make injured/disabled vets rely on private heath insurance (paid for by themselves).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20090316/pl_usnw/the_american_legion_strongly_opposed_to_president_s_plan_to_charge_wounded_heroes_for_treatment

Meanwhile, he still plans to provide taxpayer funded care for the 20 million + illegal invaders in the country as part of his socialized medicine plan. Yes, when libtards talk about the all of the "Americans" without health insurance, they are includung illegal beaners in their numbers (!?).



Will this anti-military incompetent socialist have an approval rating above 15% in a year? (illegals don't count)
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#407696 - 03/18/09 08:30 AM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals -YES
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This is some fucked up shit...

I can't believe the low Obama is willing to stoop to in order to "save" the taxpayers $500 million a year.

Wait... I have an idea. How about we kill a few of the pork projects in the Omnibus that just breezed through and save the money there so we can let the Vets have the healthcare for injuries sustained in combat.

I vote to throw the $2 million "promotion of astronomy" in Hilo, Hawaii as the first pork to be cut. The fuckers there rarely see the sky thanks to all the rain. How the fuck are they going to promote astronomy there????

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#407697 - 03/18/09 09:44 AM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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You should change the text in your link so it doesn't stretch the thread.

I posted on another board that I am against Obama on the Veterans' Health Care private insurance issue. The Veterans service organizations are going back to meet with the administration Thursday, hopefully they will resolve this. Obama said they need to come back with a proposal that will find the $540 million somewhere else. Bullshit.

I don't think Obama will get anything through the Congress with this in it. In the article I quoted, at least one Congressman said he would vote against the entire budget if this was in it.

The American Legion is not alone here, several other organizations were at the meeting and all opposed Obama. This seems to be the kind of thing where public sentiment would overwhelm the administration.

I'm anxious to see what happens Thursday.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#407698 - 03/18/09 12:24 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals -YES
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You make is sound like it's a foregone conclusion and it's not.

Obama suggested that Vets WITH health coverage available to them outside the VA could receive their treatment through that venue. You make it sound like he would just throw them all out into the street.

It's idiotic grandstanding statements like this that solidify my belief that your parents had to be first cousins.
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#407699 - 03/18/09 01:06 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals -YES
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You make is sound like it's a foregone conclusion and it's not.

Obama suggested that Vets WITH health coverage available to them outside the VA could receive their treatment through that venue. You make it sound like he would just throw them all out into the street.

It's idiotic grandstanding statements like this that solidify my belief that your parents had to be first cousins.






more "back peddling" !!!
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#407700 - 03/18/09 01:35 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals -YES
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Quote:

Quote:

You make is sound like it's a foregone conclusion and it's not.

Obama suggested that Vets WITH health coverage available to them outside the VA could receive their treatment through that venue. You make it sound like he would just throw them all out into the street.

It's idiotic grandstanding statements like this that solidify my belief that your parents had to be first cousins.






more "back peddling" !!!




Yep, a one-trick pony. If you were capable of independent thought instead of just parroting the FAR-right party line you might actually be able to make an argument capable of intelligent discourse. Too bad, so sad.
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#407701 - 03/18/09 02:05 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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The OP greatly distorted Obama's stance. I oppose it, though.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#407702 - 03/18/09 02:58 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals -YES
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You make it sound like he would just throw them all out into the street.




That's more or less what it means. These people would be unemployable since no one wants to pay for their medical coverage.
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#407703 - 03/18/09 03:23 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals -YES
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I confess. I'm part of a "FAR-right party" conspiracy to make it look like the eminent genius Bad Habit is "back peddling". The entire operation was funded by Richard Mellon Scaife.
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#407704 - 03/18/09 07:40 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals -YES
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#407705 - 03/18/09 08:03 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Thanks, Bill, I just posted that to my other board.

It's nice to have a President who listens, then decides.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#407706 - 03/18/09 08:16 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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It's nice to have a President who listens, then decides.






It is nice to have a president who will do a 180 when he sees how outraged people are with his retarded plan. Especially when he can't afford to add another fuck up to the the long list he is aleady making BS excuses for. Too bad he didn't do this with the trillion dollar stimulus which wasn't a stimulus. There's always hope for the second stimulus Dems are now dropping hints about.
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#407707 - 03/18/09 08:23 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Thanks, Bill, I just posted that to my other board.

It's nice to have a President who listens, then decides.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy




It's more like he fucked up, got called on it, then back-pedaled.

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#407708 - 03/18/09 08:29 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Quote:

Quote:

It's nice to have a President who listens, then decides.






It is nice to have a president who will do a 180 when he sees how outraged people are with his retarded plan. Especially when he can't afford to add another fuck up to the the long list he is aleady making BS excuses for. Too bad he didn't do this with the trillion dollar stimulus which wasn't a stimulus. There's always hope for the second stimulus Dems are now dropping hints about.




Yeah, fuck ups.

I give up. You win the tug-o-war. Collectively, we can't pull your head out of your ass.

-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#407709 - 03/18/09 08:30 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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It's more like he fucked up, got called on it, then back-pedaled.




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#407710 - 03/18/09 08:39 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Yeah, fuck ups.




I have a feeling we may be talking about Afganistan in a few years. (The Bamster commits, then the wacko left has a cow, then he un-commits and then Afganistan returns to form!) Yay for the idiot!
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#407711 - 03/18/09 11:35 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Yeah, fuck ups.




I have a feeling we may be talking about Afganistan in a few years. (The Bamster commits, then the wacko left has a cow, then he un-commits and then Afganistan returns to form!) Yay for the idiot!




Un-motherfucking-believable! You do realize that both wars AND the TARP stimulus package were ALL instituted by Bush don't you?

Or is it standard practice now to blame ALL of Bush's fuck ups on the current administration?

8 years to screw things up and morons like you expect it to be cleaned up in 8 weeks! Again, un-motherfucking-believable.
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#407712 - 03/19/09 12:32 AM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Illegals...who will have the power to vote will help those that have helped them....

Wounded Vets...will be dead by the time the next election comes around....

they also don’t want to give more aid to our countrymen who have suffered injuries on the battlefield...for it may set some wacky legal precedent so members of the armed forces can sue the govnt....I may be wrong but in the "contact" with Uncle Sam....it states in more ways then one that you cant sue for anything.....but like I say I may be wrong.

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#407713 - 03/19/09 12:56 AM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Un-motherfucking-believable! You do realize that both wars AND the TARP stimulus package were ALL instituted by Bush don't you?

Or is it standard practice now to blame ALL of Bush's fuck ups on the current administration?

8 years to screw things up and morons like you expect it to be cleaned up in 8 weeks! Again, un-motherfucking-believable.






"Back Peddler",

You do realize the economy wouldn't have blown up if Dems hadn't forced banks to make pc diversity loans to people who can't pay them back, right? And you know that Fannie Mae (an ally of Dems in congress) lowered standards for what loans the government will buy/secure to almost zero, right? (Fannie Mae was more than a 1000 Enrons) Housing and credit were the first and biggest dominoes to fall. Banks are vilified for bundling and selling off the worthless loans they were forced to write, but what the fuck else are they going to do with that shit.


Only 23% of the so-called trillion dollar stimulus will hit the economy within year, so it's not a stimulus. Dems were taking advantage of the "crisis" to put through a wish list of social engineering garbage. It was a shit sandwich. Look for another soon.


Odumda just ordered 17,000 more troops to Afganistan and he has no clue what the fuck he's doing. I'm already hearing wacko lefties bitch about this "betrayal". He owns that shit now. After America has paid a high price for his amateurish growing pains and the left's bitching has gotten louder, he'll turn tail. His efforts in Afganistan will all have been for nothing (except to the lefty haters who love seeing America humiliated).

Look for to Iraq to prosper in the future as a FREE democracy and for it to be a much needed strategic ally in the Mid-east. Lefties who love to say it was all for nothing there are just blinded by their hate (for themselves, Bush, the military, America and/or Western values).

You're welcome! Don't mention it!
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#407714 - 03/19/09 02:43 AM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Look for to Iraq to prosper in the future as a FREE democracy and for it to be a much needed strategic ally in the Mid-east. Lefties who love to say it was all for nothing there are just blinded by their hate (for themselves, Bush, the military, America and/or Western values).




So you are not only a racist and an anti-semite but also a fucking neocon. Do you really believe you can turn Iraq into a liberal democracy by force? You are a fool, coke if you do.
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#407715 - 03/19/09 04:34 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Futile as it is, I would like to point out:

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You do realize the economy wouldn't have blown up if Dems hadn't forced banks to make pc diversity loans to people who can't pay them back, right?




The government forced banks? Gimme a break. They smelled nice ROIs and jumped at it.

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Look for to Iraq to prosper in the future as a FREE democracy and for it to be a much needed strategic ally in the Mid-east.




This will not happen anytime soon, believe me. I know a lot of Iraqi people. They don't see any chance of freedom or rest in the future, distant or near.
Now, go fuck yourself and your 'Western' values. I'm glad I have a different set of values.
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#407716 - 03/19/09 05:37 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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Right on! The Community Reinvestment Act never happened. Fannie Mae credit standards were never lowered. Barney Fwank, Chris Dodd and Franklin Raines were never born.









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#407717 - 03/19/09 06:11 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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You get high on dead Thai kid fumes..Right?.
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#407718 - 03/19/09 06:34 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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The government forced banks? Gimme a break. They smelled nice ROIs and jumped at it.




To some extent Yes through community re-investment rules. Changes to GSE rules increase the number of people counted as potential borrowers under community rules, and banks must loan to a certain number of them. In effect, once Congress decided to make the GSEs back subprime loans, the community rules forced banks to make such loans.

In this case I don't think it actually contributed - too many companies were able to re-package mortgages in CDOs to sell to others and thereby not take any risk themselves: carelessness was to most dominant force. But the combination of community rules and GSE rules manipulation is a way this might happen again.
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#407719 - 03/19/09 06:56 PM Re: Obama Healthcare: wounded Vets - NO, Illegals
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You get high on dead Thai kid fumes..Right?.





Now it's starting to get weird. Why are you talking about Thai kids? Next you'll probably make a remark out of nowhere about how lovely Southeast Asia is in the springtime.

There is a special place in hell reserved for sex tourists.



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