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#406283 - 06/04/09 06:50 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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So Seroquel is the road my GP wants to go down now.




An anti-psychotic? For insomnia?

Interesting.
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#406284 - 06/04/09 06:52 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Found this site of users on Seroquel for Insomnia.

click me

It's got a bunch of people posting their experiences.


Hope you get some good sleep soon, TP.
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#406285 - 06/04/09 07:48 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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I have been on Seroquel. It made me feel like I needed to eat spoon fulls of sugar straight from the bag. The first 4 "days I took it I slept for more than 18 hours each night. I was on the lowest dosage.

Your results may vary. Zopiclone rules as a sleeping med. And failing that, Mogadon.
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#406286 - 06/04/09 08:10 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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So Seroquel is the road my GP wants to go down now.




An anti-psychotic? For insomnia?

Interesting.





Yes, I agree. Kinda makes you wonder what was said before that suggestion was made...

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#406287 - 06/04/09 08:52 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Zopiclone rules as a sleeping med.





Not when you can't stop crying uncontrollably....
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#406288 - 06/04/09 09:10 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Not when you can't stop crying uncontrollably....




That probably doesn't work out very well at the gym.

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#406289 - 06/05/09 04:59 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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Not when you can't stop crying uncontrollably....




That probably doesn't work out very well at the gym.




Some girls go for the sensitive guys.
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#406290 - 06/05/09 09:25 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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Not when you can't stop crying uncontrollably....




That probably doesn't work out very well at the gym.





The juice can make some folks like that as well. All I need is a rumour that I'm sticking a needle in my ass.

BTW just woke up. I am not impressed at all with the seroquel. It still took me a long-ass time to conk out and I'm out of it right now...
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#406292 - 06/05/09 10:39 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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tattypatty said:
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Not when you can't stop crying uncontrollably....



I haven't cried in so long. I feel disabled.


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#406293 - 06/05/09 10:46 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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Two Clonazepam ( generic spelling) right before bed, or a Xanax under your tongue.By the time it dissolves, you are groggy already.




The 'pam' family does not make me sleepy at all.
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#406294 - 06/05/09 11:39 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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It's time for the big guns Tatty.

Ask your doctor for a bottle of Chloral Hydrate.

I warn you that combining it with alcohol produces some kind of dinosaur fuel. Property might get damaged. You won't have any idea how.
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#406295 - 06/05/09 02:12 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Two Clonazepam ( generic spelling) right before bed, or a Xanax under your tongue.By the time it dissolves, you are groggy already.




Xanax is one of those pharmaceuticals that's chemically addictive. I'd stay away from that shit.

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#406297 - 06/05/09 04:37 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Seriously, Chloral Hydrate is the best sleep med I have ever used. The reason I recommend Zopiclone is because I don't need something as strong as Chloral Hydrate. You seem to need something that strong, Tatty. It comes in a liquid and the normal dosage is 5ml. It tastes like raw death though depending on the pharmacy, some of it tastes like "citrus".

Some doctors in Ontario will think it is weird to give it to you, but ask about Chloral Hydrate. The reason is that it woks on a different mechanism than the other pills you tried which don't work for you.

Chloral Hydrate.
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#406298 - 06/05/09 10:25 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Schedule 1-2 hours more for "sleep time."

Anticipate being awake during this expanded period, but not to fret, there are those extra 1-2 hours to eventually fall asleep; thus the stress of not being able to fall asleep is obviated by the cushion of extra time.

During this expanded period, there's no TV (anything the expanded period eclipses, should be recorded for future watching).

Talk radio, at a barely-audible volume level is allowed unless it becomes annoying, then off it goes.

If, after 15 minutes, you're not feeling tired, read some newspapers, magazines, or in a pinch, history. No fiction!

Consider a small sleep-inducing snack such as cheese-and-crackers.

Consider masturbation; very effective in clearing the mind of the day's outrages.

In summary, the night's sleep may be a pastiches of 2-3 hour naps, but it'll be better than fretting at the red LED digital clock given a too-limited time allotment for rest.



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#406299 - 06/06/09 08:36 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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It's stuff like what Gunker posted that's what that book I described earlier in this thread discusses.

Good post, Gunk. Too many people talk about insomnia, and don't talk enough about common sense cures. Head straight for the medicine cabinet.

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#406300 - 06/06/09 09:27 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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I am almost right some of the time as the open windows allow subtle wind-chime and rain-song and Eno/Fripp ambience plays....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J_FvEqY--0&feature=related

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#406301 - 06/06/09 10:59 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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That's the type of music that makes you wanna throw open a window, and just do a long gut-wrenching scream too, as your mind stops listening and slowly but painfully loses all grip on reality...

You fall asleep to that crap?

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#406302 - 06/06/09 11:15 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Eno's "Music for airports" is great to fall asleep to. Play it quietly.
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#406303 - 06/07/09 12:09 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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#406304 - 06/07/09 12:12 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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#406306 - 08/04/09 12:13 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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So ididn't look back to sse if I posted about seraquel (total failure), but I have realized if I keep the zopiclone to once a week I am not a sobbing mess. ANYWAY I got an old friend clonazepam (klonopin) prescribed to me again. I took this stuff 20 years ago when I was freaking out constantly, but have heard crazy addiction stories. I am on the fence. Thoughts? Andecdotes? Queries?
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#406307 - 08/04/09 01:08 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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So ididn't look back to sse if I posted about seraquel (total failure), but I have realized if I keep the zopiclone to once a week I am not a sobbing mess. ANYWAY I got an old friend clonazepam (klonopin) prescribed to me again. I took this stuff 20 years ago when I was freaking out constantly, but have heard crazy addiction stories. I am on the fence. Thoughts? Andecdotes? Queries?




Can I call you Shuffles the Drooler now?
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#406308 - 08/04/09 07:55 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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So ididn't look back to sse if I posted about seraquel (total failure), but I have realized if I keep the zopiclone to once a week I am not a sobbing mess. ANYWAY I got an old friend clonazepam (klonopin) prescribed to me again. I took this stuff 20 years ago when I was freaking out constantly, but have heard crazy addiction stories. I am on the fence. Thoughts? Andecdotes? Queries?





Yes, use standard sleep hygiene recommendations.

I do occasionally suffer from insomnia. The strongest thing I have ever used (or would ever use) is Benadryl.


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#406309 - 08/04/09 01:51 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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ANYWAY I got an old friend clonazepam (klonopin) prescribed to me again. I took this stuff 20 years ago when I was freaking out constantly, but have heard crazy addiction stories. I am on the fence. Thoughts? Andecdotes? Queries?




Any medication ending on -pam holds a serious risk of addiction. The human body builds a tolerance to this stuff pretty easily. Psychological component is not to be underestimated either (but this can differ significantly from person to person). Same goes for zoplicon, btw.
Benzo addiction is a bitch to get away from.
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#406310 - 08/04/09 02:17 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Yeah I know. He hooked me up with Clonazepam 20 years ago and then in 94. I usually just take them for a bit then stop, but I did voice my concern about it. I have taken a zillion painkillers for my surgeries and have been able to put them down every single time, so I am not too concerned. The post-zopiclone depression is a bitch thoug....
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#406311 - 08/04/09 04:58 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Tatty Ive spoken about this before in another thread, I suffer also. Ive tried Xanax, Klonopin (they suck, I need at least 15-20 2mgs to even feel a slight buzz. And Seroquel is anti psychotic meds, but it does put your ass to sleep, actually coma sleep, so I would stay away from that if I was you.
Someone suggested to me the Ambien/Rozeram cocktai, but Im afraid cause I know all the sleep meds are eventually addictive. I need to go to the doctors, it's getting worst, and taking its toll on me. Its awful when you wake up during the night and toss and turn and especially if your mind is on overtime, you are screwed.
I hope you find something that works for you and if you do, please share it so I can see if I can get it prescribed to me and see what it does for me. Its only the last 3 years that I've had this. Before that Ive never had a problem.
I truly feel bad for anyone suffering from this.
I wish I had someone to write me Diprivan and watch me throughout the night. But I watched Primetime last week when they were talking to a doctor, he showed about 25 bottles in his draw and said that double that would keep a person sleeping for 8 hours straight. That's an awful lot.
A female muslim woman, very pretty who is an anesthesiologist
said that this med should NEVER be taken outside of an hospital setting. Its very very dangerous. It's only good for 10 minute sleeps at a time, so that's why they need to keep adding to the bottle with the drip....and he must be watched all the time.
Conrad Murray is in huge trouble.

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#406312 - 08/04/09 05:11 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Tatty Ive spoken about this before in another thread, I suffer also. Ive tried Xanax, Klonopin (they suck, I need at least 15-20 2mgs to even feel a slight buzz. And Seroquel is anti psychotic meds, but it does put your ass to sleep, actually coma sleep, so I would stay away from that if I was you.
Someone suggested to me the Ambien/Rozeram cocktai, but Im afraid cause I know all the sleep meds are eventually addictive. I need to go to the doctors, it's getting worst, and taking its toll on me. Its awful when you wake up during the night and toss and turn and especially if your mind is on overtime, you are screwed.
I hope you find something that works for you and if you do, please share it so I can see if I can get it prescribed to me and see what it does for me. Its only the last 3 years that I've had this. Before that Ive never had a problem.
I truly feel bad for anyone suffering from this.
I wish I had someone to write me Diprivan and watch me throughout the night. But I watched Primetime last week when they were talking to a doctor, he showed about 25 bottles in his draw and said that double that would keep a person sleeping for 8 hours straight. That's an awful lot.
A female muslim woman, very pretty who is an anesthesiologist
said that this med should NEVER be taken outside of an hospital setting. Its very very dangerous. It's only good for 10 minute sleeps at a time, so that's why they need to keep adding to the bottle with the drip....and he must be watched all the time.
Conrad Murray is in huge trouble.




Is your problem a result of all those years on Wild Kingdom and being repeatedly shot with a tranq gun when you charged their trucks and camera crews. Have you tried legal action against Mutual of Omaha??
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#406313 - 08/04/09 05:32 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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I dont reply to dicks, sorry. It was for Patty, not u....so go pick and troll somewhere else....On Ignore.

Nite folks.

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#406314 - 08/04/09 06:15 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Both you and Stylah have commented on the whole -pam addiction. I never crave it when I take it, it just isn't the best for sleeping.
Ambien (zolpidem) is finally approved here (it wasn't for years) but it isn't on the market yet. Too bad. From what I've read and watched on the Jewtube, it looks like the best choice....
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#406315 - 08/04/09 06:21 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Did you ever try Lunesta?

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#406316 - 08/04/09 07:24 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Yeah, B, that's what zopiclone is (at least half of it). It's the generic. It is awesome for putting you out and you feel pretty darn refreshed the next day. But both my fam and my GP noticed that I was super down in the dumps after about 2 weeks. Gave me a bit of a scare....
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#406317 - 08/04/09 07:55 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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Use them as intended- to regulate and get yourself into some kind of schedule. A day lasts 24 hrs +/-. You have to fit everything into that including time to wind down as well as sleep. If you don't, you will never beat this problem. You say you have no substance abuse problems, so try two beers/drinks/bowls and a sleeping pill you like, or one beer/drink/bowl, or something like that, but more importantly watch your schedule. Try it dude- regulating your time is easier done than taking some fucking chemical whatever it may be.

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#406318 - 08/04/09 08:06 PM Re: INSOMNIA
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I appreciate that. I was an insomniac even as a little kid and then worked Graveyards until 7am for 5 years in my 20's and 30's. I was pretty much an every day drinker back then.Working 5pm till close the past few years has probably played a role as well.

I have got the zopiclone to 1 day a week, but I'm tellin ya there are nights when I just cannot shut my fucking brain off. I also get the so-tired-you-can't sleep feeling. We'll see how the next 8 weeks go with rotating the 'pam and zopiclone.....
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#406319 - 08/05/09 05:44 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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You should try some propofol, I heard that works real good.

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#406320 - 08/05/09 10:25 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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Your latest posts have been great for putting me to sleep. thanks, though.
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#406321 - 08/05/09 10:56 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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It looks like you got the words sleep and butthurt mixed up in your brain, I'm sure it's only from the fatigue.

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#406322 - 08/05/09 11:35 AM Re: INSOMNIA
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ummmm, yeah.......
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