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Our military had control over whether the images would be shown.



When it comes down to it, no one made the media show it. Why are you so against the Hussein bros. bodies being shown but couldn’t wait to show the bodies of dead Americans returning from Iraq?

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This is not about what Hussein did. Again, two wrongs don't make a right, and saying we shouldn't investigate what happened because Saddam was a monster, is wrong. We have tarnished our image and terrorized an entire country for several years, tortured, etc. and we must address this.



Actually this thread is about Wikipedia, but it's mine so feel free to wax on.

You make out the Husseins were somehow victims in Bush’s evil plot to overthrow the peaceful society that was Iraq. The fact is the waterboarding we performed likely provided intelligence that saved American lives. Yeah I can over look that, but not genocide.

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Many of us believe Bush Co. wanted to go into Iraq from the start, 9-11 gave them the excuse, and they cooked the intel. I believe it.



If someone tried to murder my father, you bet I’d like to take him out. Wouldn’t you? But that doesn’t mean that’s the reason, your believing its true doesn’t make it so, nor does it uncover evidence that shows it is true. Here’s your tin foil hat anyway.

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Damn right. Do you think democracy means if we can get a big enough mob together, we can attack? Or that thoughtful people should follow the herd when we see a better way? That's the type of massive group think that got us into this bed of quicksand. And I don't follow it wishing ill for our country because we dislike the leaders. I wanted Bush to pull his head out of his ass and let our country succeed, but he did almost everything wrong.



I think that Democracy means the opinion of the majority is what dictates government policy. Sorry to hear you don’t.

I didn’t see you mention Kosovo. Just imagine the lives that could have been saved if Clinton had had the balls to go in to Dafur. But I suppose you would have opposed that as well.

I’m calling bullshit, you wanted Bush to fail, just like the rest of them. Of course saying so now would negate the whole Limbaugh drama, so I understand your hesitation to admit that and will drop it for now.

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Horseshit. You don't know me, or my history. I was proud of my service and a liberal before Bush, and I'm proud now. But there was a point when in Army Intelligence and working for the NSA were being raked through a mud puddle by the Bush administration. Ideally, you would not hear a peep about these things.



I’m sorry, but what did the “Bushies” make you ashamed of again? Not your military service. Your citizenship perhaps? You were in the intelligence service somewhere and Bush fucked you over? Heres the quote:

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And how the Bushies made me ashamed of most things I used to take pride in.



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Yeah McCain is a hero, I always said that. So is John Kerry. I still can't understand how the Republicans threw mud on someone with a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts.



Did you say that to your liberal friends while they bashed his service to this country during the election? In all fairness I don’t remember hearing anything about McCain throwing away his medals or even pretending to. When Kerry threw away his medals or pretended to, he also threw away the hero status that earned them.

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I about fell out of my chair when Orin Hatch told the world we were listening to Osama's cell phone!! Day after 9-11. Holy Mother Fucking Shit! We could have had Osama and the biggest portion of his organization if the Bushies would have been competent. But they wanted to spread democracy, or some such bullshit. Jesus holy fucking Christ on a Christmas Tree, no wonder I felt ashamed at what happened.



I’m going out on a limb and will say Osama knew we were listening to his cell phone calls. We had been doing that for quite a long time before 9/11. And because of that he didn’t plan one thing over his cell phone. This is the reason human intelligence still works best in the Middle East.