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Policies change when a new administration comes in, Einstein. You might recall Obammy said he was going to approach foreign policy differently...The administration itself heralded it's innovative new approach in Afganistan/Pakistan of "reaching out to moderate elements of the Taliban". That didn't work out too well for the amateurs, did it?


Sesame Street Newsflash: you're stupid!




Nice dodge, as I said, the Bush admin was already reaching out and in secret talks with the Taliban in Afghanistan. This is well known.

There was no substantial change in policy between the two admins approach in Afghanistan. Obama's admin was just continuing what Bush had started.

If you have evidence to the contrary beyond rhetoric please present it. Your statements are full of 'magical thinking' that somehow believes that a few broad statements can somehow cause an entire complex and long-term national movement half-way across the world to leap into action.

The Taliban was only able to reorganize and mobilize in Pakistan because they had 7 years to do so safely within the embrace of Bush's butt-buddy Musharraf. They probably are just using the switch-over in admins as an opportunity to make their long-planned for move. It was the Republicans who said there is no way they would ever interfere with the internal affairs of Pakistan back when Obama brought up the idea of getting tough with Musharraf.

I know facts like those are inconvenient for someone with such a simple-minded view of the world but you might want to read the occasional newspaper (or as you no doubt call them 'lyin jewspapers') instead of watching daytime TV for your info on current events.










Honestly, Have2Shit, I don't know why I bother.


"In 2001 the Pakistani government advised the Bush Administration to talk to the moderate 'Taliban', make a deal with them" - "the Bush Administration opted for brute force. They carpet bombed Afghanistan and antagonized the Pakhtuns of Pakistan." ( http://rupeenews.com/2009/03/07/obama-attempts-to-duplicate-s-peace-deal-with-the-taliban-in-afghanistan/ ). Then they put the region on ice and were off to Iraq.


Obongo is inaugerated:

- Feb - Obongo increased troop levels first by 17,000 and then by another 4000. ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29242187/ ) This was very dumb and a waste of energy. He only did it because he said he would during the election. At the time he just wanted to pretend he's not a kumbaya-singing poet and to criticize Bush's strategy. Odumba was then slow to learn that while we can defend large cities in the region (as we had already been doing - daaa), a conventional war in the mountains is unwinable because the ragheads burrow like rats (consider the history from Alexander the Great through the Soviets). This is why Bush had bypassed the whole mess and moved on to Iraq.


- Mar - Odumba declared "we are losing in Afganistan" (never done by Bush) and that he is open to "reconciliation" with "moderate elements of the Taliban" (never done by Bush). ( http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us/politics/08obama.html?_r=2&hp ) He didn't understand the fundamental difference between the Sunnis bought off in Iraq and the jihadi Taliban.


- April - "In sealing the deal (to cede the Swat Valley to the moderate Taliban) last week, President Zardari likely took a cue from the Obama administration" ( http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0424/p08s01-comv.html ) This NEVER would have happened under Bush.

- post April - "They have expressed fears that the Taliban could continue to use Swat as a staging ground for assaults on other parts of the country, and perhaps threaten the viability of the country’s civilian government." ( http://swatvalley.org/index.php/Articles/pakistani-paramilitary-force-tries-to-st?blog=1 ) This is exactly what ended up happening. What a shock !!

The laughing Taliban (which has no moderates) said reconciliation with us infidels was a "lunatic idea". They were able to seriously threaten the Paki capital ONLY because of their new Swat Valley staging ground...etc etc .. yada yada yada




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