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No, not for those unwilling to help themselves. But I do think we all benefit from a social safety net to help those who fall on hard times, or who've suffered from established discrimination. And I do think it should be there for all Americans in need... regardless of race. It just makes more economic sense in the long run. Of course there are always going to be people who take advantage of these programs, or who simply refuse to avail themselves... but I do think the benefits outweigh the costs.



I’m quite all right with paying to feed only those who need it. If you were a taxpayer you would feel the same way.

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So the govt didn't deny some their rights, they only "tried"?



Depends on where you went. In the south the discrimination was much more intense than the northern states. I know liberals like to blanket everything in generalities, but I won’t.

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I'm frankly shocked at your naivete if you actually believe this. Although I noticed you weren't quite brazen enough to leave the word "equal" in front of the word "education". At least there's some limit to your powers of self-deception.



Are you saying there are people who are being kept from an education by the government? That the “Equal Opportunity Employer” isn’t federal law?

There will never be true equality in a sense. The wealthy and powerful will always have access to better. That’s true no matter where in the world you go, even in the workers paradise of Venezuela.

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Why do you think that is? Why such a dramatic difference? Since it seems to be your contention that the state wasn't the deciding factor, I'd like to hear your theory.
And I'd like to point out that some of those people "sitting around, waiting" don't expect the govt to do more than solve the problems that it created.



Again your expecting generalities, but the realities are much more complicated. Too complicated to work out all the reasons and factors in a couple of lines on a porn message board.

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I'm not sure why you have this problem with giving direct answers to direct questions. You can vote for anyone you want in the general election, regardless of party affiliation. So I'll ask again... did you vote for Barr, someone else, or not at all?



I don’t see why you have this problem adding 2 and 2. Yet somehow you always manage to fail.

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Incidentally, if tomorrow the govt kicked you and your wife out of your home, made it legal for employers to deny you work for any arbitrary reason, and left you languishing in poverty... would you say your children would have a legitimate grievance against the govt for their economic status after you had died?



Problem is people never lost their rights, they just gradually gained them over time until the modern era. Although I’ll play your, moralizing in hindsight, game. No. I would want my children to live for themselves, their own children, and to not be consumed by my fights.