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#4008 - 07/07/03 09:43 AM Kick Ass Pictures
Mike Meatmaster Offline
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I just don't understand why they can't issue the VHS & DVD at the same time. I'm waiting for Mary Carey Rules on DVD and they are already releasing on VHS Mary Carey Rules 2?! What's up with that?

By the time the DVD's come out I may not have an interest in them anymore! Does this make sense to anyone? Or is this a very common thing, do they think I'll buy both? or what? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/huh.gif" alt="" />
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#4009 - 07/07/03 12:30 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
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Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 614
Loc: Boston, MA.
I've noticed that most of the better companies don't put out their DVD's until long after the VHS release , which is fine with me . I still have my trusty VCR and would rather watch a good hardcore video than some piece of shit DVD with no stroke value . Good porn is good porn . Don't sell yourself short by only sticking to one format because you will be missing out on some very strokable shit. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smashfreak.gif" alt="" />

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#4010 - 07/08/03 04:38 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Owen S Mouth Offline
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
Companies still release on VHS first due to the rental market. I also believe that some companies think that they will sell more due to double purchases by some fans. The best thing to do is find a kick ass retail store and just rent the new releases on VHS. If they're good, buy them on DVD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif" alt="" />

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#4011 - 07/08/03 08:23 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Mike Meatmaster Offline
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When my VCR broke, I didn't go buy a new one. I already had a DVD so what do I need a VCR for? Tivo does the rest.
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#4012 - 07/08/03 10:12 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Steven Millan Offline
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Registered: 04/18/03
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Loc: Las Vegas
I know what you mean,C,for I practically gave a VCR to my live-in cousin(who's always watching it an awful lot),and just only stick to the DVD drive,and DVDs in general,on my PC,since DVDs are all that the companies ever make these days,and video is slowly becoming very scarce(which is a sad reality to admit,since I was there at the beginning boom of video[late 70s/early 80s],and was caught up in the excitement of it,during my teen years)in these times.

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#4013 - 07/08/03 10:16 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Steven Millan Offline
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Registered: 04/18/03
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I really meant to say,my VCR.
Also forgot to add in that Kick Ass Pictures makes some pretty scorching products,although I wish that in their foot fetish and teen titles,they would indugle in some major tickling and trampling,since they heavily cover every thing else,but that's just my opinion,and Kick Ass Pictures is a very cool company that happily delivers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbanger.gif" alt="" />

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#4014 - 07/09/03 05:41 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Jeff Steward Offline
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Vhs sales are still stronger than DVD,if fact much stronger.My company puts out very few DVD's on the same day as the Vhs,so if you want to watch the latest Gag Factor,American Bukkake,White Trash Whore,Guttermouth or Young & Anal your going to need a vcr. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smashfreak.gif" alt="" />
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#4015 - 07/09/03 06:30 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Owen S Mouth Offline
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
Loc: Warsaw, Poland
Indeed. I think people underestimate the brick and mortor retail rentals. Like I posted earlier, the best thing to - almost always - is to rent the tape. If you like it, buy it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/clobbered.gif" alt="" />

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#4016 - 07/09/03 08:03 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Mike Meatmaster Offline
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Indeed. I think people underestimate the brick and mortor retail rentals. Like I posted earlier, the best thing to - almost always - is to rent the tape. If you like it, buy it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/clobbered.gif" alt="" />


But why not rent the DVD, if I like it then buy it. I mean mainstream movies come out at the same time for that reason. However they of course later have special edition dvd's with more features but still - they understand the changing marketplace. I wonder, if VHS rentals are still strong in porn because of the supply of dvds or if it is because of the demand of the consumers?

Again, I wonder how many people rent the tape then don't later buy the dvd because they have lost intrest by the time it comes out.


Edited by Mr C (07/09/03 08:05 AM)
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#4017 - 07/10/03 01:25 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Owen S Mouth Offline
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 1043
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"Why not rent the DVD?"
Good point. Maybe another issue in the porn world is the duplication costs. Does it cost more to duplicate DVD or VHS? As this applies to porn and the many VHS duplicators as well as in-house VHS duplications, I can see how VHS is still the quickest and most affordable medium. But that's purely speculation.
Bottom line though...I have to take note of what Gag Daddy said regarding VHS still moving strongly. With this bit of info, maybe we can assume that a vast majority of men prefer
rentals? I can tell you that given an option - and with all the product that's available - renting is the best way to go if you're just a regular guy looking for a quick fix.
For Wankers like us...well, it's a different story.
This is beginning to sound like a thread that would be read on the bored. Maybe we should quit it now and talk about <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dudepissin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drunky.gif" alt="" />

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#4018 - 09/22/03 04:54 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
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Just out of curiosity then, why do so many new titles in the glossy ads of AVN have a simultaneous DVD and VHS release date?

I think your idea is great if VHS is still that strong..from what I've experienced in most vid stores, it is...
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#4019 - 09/23/03 06:04 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Jeff Steward Offline
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VHS still out sells DVD which is why I'm in no rush to put my titles out simultaneously on DVD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bigpimpin.gif" alt="" />
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#4020 - 09/23/03 07:17 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
TonyMalice Offline
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FYI I noticed Kick Ass will be having all titles simultaneous in March according to Mark Kulkis.

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#4021 - 09/23/03 01:27 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
HumbleOldMan Offline
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VHS still out sells DVD which is why I'm in no rush to put my titles out simultaneously on DVD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bigpimpin.gif" alt="" />


Hmmm, could DVD sales be trailing VHS because YOU CAN'T GET THE TITLES ON DVD???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angryb.gif" alt="" />

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#4022 - 09/23/03 02:11 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Mike Meatmaster Offline
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VHS still out sells DVD which is why I'm in no rush to put my titles out simultaneously on DVD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bigpimpin.gif" alt="" />


Hmmm, could DVD sales be trailing VHS because YOU CAN'T GET THE TITLES ON DVD???? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angryb.gif" alt="" />


Could be a catch 22. DVD sales lag because people can't get them when they want em. That was my point a bit originally. How do the DVD sales do in the regular movie industry? I would bet that it would eventually mirror the porn industry. However, I'm sure there are more simultaneous releases or if they aren't, there are just so many more added features to the DVD.
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#4023 - 09/25/03 12:01 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
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Loc: Boston, MA.
DVD , video , whatever . Just give me good porn to jerkoff to . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif" alt="" />

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#4024 - 09/25/03 10:20 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Sergio T. Offline
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Couldn't have said it better myself B.P.F.
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#4025 - 04/04/06 08:18 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
snoopy Offline
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pussy pump video?

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#4026 - 04/04/06 10:32 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Bad_Bad Offline
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Registered: 01/26/06
Posts: 624
Chico, whom is pummeling who in your avatar gif.

I'm hoping it's Ortiz turning Ken Shamrock's cranium into a gellatinous substance myself.
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#4027 - 04/05/06 10:21 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Sergio T. Offline
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Chico, whom is pummeling who in your avatar gif.

I'm hoping it's Ortiz turning Ken Shamrock's cranium into a gellatinous substance myself.

Thats from a regional show called HOOK N' SHOOT in Indiana. I like both fighters. Shamrock was on of my early idols and a big reason why I got into MMA. Ortiz is a badass who I hated till I met the guy. He was very cool with me, so I cant hate. I just want a very good fight when they face each other in the summer.
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#4028 - 04/05/06 06:13 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
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Chico, whom is pummeling who in your avatar gif.

I'm hoping it's Ortiz turning Ken Shamrock's cranium into a gellatinous substance myself.

Thats from a regional show called HOOK N' SHOOT in Indiana. I like both fighters. Shamrock was on of my early idols and a big reason why I got into MMA. Ortiz is a badass who I hated till I met the guy. He was very cool with me, so I cant hate. I just want a very good fight when they face each other in the summer.


Ortiz and Shamrock are gonna fight again? I think my alcohol addled brain remembers them fighting about 2 years ago, and Ortiz had won. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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#4029 - 04/05/06 07:39 PM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
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Ortiz and Shamrock are gonna fight again? I think my alcohol addled brain remembers them fighting about 2 years ago, and Ortiz had won. Correct me if I'm wrong...

Ortiz took Shamrock to school during that fight. Shamrock blamed his lost on a torn ACL (he torn it a week prior to the fight). Anyway, they fight after the season finale of The Ultimate Fighter 3, which begins tommorow night on Spike.
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#4030 - 04/09/06 09:13 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
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Registered: 01/02/04
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VHS still out sells DVD which is why I'm in no rush to put my titles out simultaneously on DVD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bigpimpin.gif" alt="" />


Might it be true that VHS sells better in porn because thats what producers want to put out? It is a lot less expensive to produce them and they do wear out, get fucked up, ect. and have to be replaced.

Personally, I hate the box inserts (plastic or foam). Why not just make a smaller box??? It saves room on the shelf and would be about $0.02 cheaper... and it is all about the money. Hell, it'll add up to about an eight-ball per 10,000 units and that'll keep the talent showing up.

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#4031 - 04/11/06 07:35 AM Re: Kick Ass Pictures
Snowman Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
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Might it be true that VHS sells better in porn because thats what producers want to put out? It is a lot less expensive to produce them and they do wear out, get fucked up, ect. and have to be replaced.


I don't think either of those things are true anymore. I was under the impression that more and more porn studios are dropping VHS altogether now.
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