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#399507 - 02/15/09 04:10 AM AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
I check AVN maybe once a week if that nowadays, but this gem caught my eye:

I remember when "editorial" was AVN codeword for some long-winded rant by pedophile Mark Kernes, but they're a bit more interesting now:
AVN:Editorial: Self-Righteous, 'Sex-Positive' Violet Blue Can't Get Her Facts Straight

Violet quotes some shitty blog that claimed Shane Diesel is a woman and David jumps all over her for it...even ending his "editorial" with a statement FROM THE COMMENT SECTION OF LUKEISBACK.com What, was Jeremy Steal too busy with his own site to give a statement?



Wait...didn't AVN remove a number of different "news" stories after they ran the fake Kanye West porn story three weeks ago and coincidentally removed the press releases from Hush Hush (Shane Diesel's contract company) as well?

Oh yeah, and David Sullivan wrote that story and retraction too.

AVN's such a fucking joke nowadays; they didn't used to be this fucking ridiculous. I doubt they last more than a year and a half before going bankrupt or get sold off for pennies on the dollar.
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#399508 - 02/15/09 05:39 PM Re: AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
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Registered: 02/15/09
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AVN didn't "remove" the two press releases about Hush-Hush Entertainment inviting Kanye to star in "Blackzilla"; we never ran them in the first place. I did make reference to Nate's Hush-Hush PR under the headline "Kanye West Porn Rumor A Fake".

You claim here that I wrote both Kanye stories for AVN. In reality, I wrote only the one debunking the rumor.

I thought the whole Kanye thing was funny. To begin with, AVN.com simply reported that this gossip was circulating on the Internet... and remarked that the "bisexual Kanye" comments were likely a misquote at best. The headline was "Kanye West Graduates to Porn?" - note the punctuation.

When the Kanye camp confirmed the whole thing was bogus, I wrote and posted my story in place of the first. If I had it to do over again, I'd probably leave both stories up.

Anyway, that's the whole "pot/kettle" cover-up you seem so eager to expose. I see the point you're trying to make; had we reported the Kanye rumor as fact, or failed to attribute the source, you'd have a stronger case.

Regardless, there are plenty of things you could point out to help sustain your hard-on against AVN. (When exactly was it not "ridiculous" in your opinion?) Bashing AVN has to be the easiest sport in the entire Porn Special Olympics.

As for my Violet Blue editorial, I stand by it...including the use of David Aaron Clark's quote.

I've already heard from Gia and a dozen other readers of the piece; I'd be happy to hear opinions from Malice, Jeff, and others on XPT.

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#399509 - 02/15/09 08:02 PM Re: AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
Bornyo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
Sullivan I have no idea what you are talking about but just to save you some time, stevie why is an idiot and he is treated as such here. Don't waste your time.

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#399510 - 02/16/09 04:14 AM Re: AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
What happened Borenyo? I point out your favorite retard radio rejects Opie and Anthony and their shitty programming are one of the big reasons Sirius XM is trading at 1/600th of what it used to (with Stern, Bubba the Love Sponge and the rest of the shylocks' whose "Armies" never materialized as subscribers despite their incessant hot air to the contrary)...and now I'm your #1 idiot? Heh. That kind of makes me proud.


It looks like Hush Hush's Nate owes ME a giant fucking thank you; he's been ranting for a few weeks about AVN ads supporting piracy here on XPT and how he wants to confront them. Now that a major person from AVN is posting here I'm assuming his questions/accusations can now come forth.

(You fucking owe me big time Nate!)


(And for the record: I figured that those gay bloggers at The Sword thought Shane Diesel was probably Shane of "old" Shane's World fame, considering the Shane's World "Name" seems to be used less and less in favor of Hush Hush...which just happened to coincide after Jack Venice's nationwide man hunt and life-time incarceration where the Shane's World name was brought up all over the media in connection with him).

So David, I'm kind of surprised to see you posting here. Not sure exactly how to go about a response as I was a bit vague on a few terms in the original post given a typical XPTer's attention span; so here goes. Guess I won't go into too many details about who said/posted what when it came to that original fake story, all the original references have been removed and Google caching doesn't seem to bring them up. Guess AVN has better programmers than I thought.


I do think its funny you quote LukeisBack to close and criticize Violet for not knowing about the Jon Dough "There's a Jew hiding in the Bushes" boxcover; the only place I'd even seen that Jon Dough/Jew story in five years was on LukeisBack.com before that retard Cindy Loftus took over and changed the coding on the entire site fucking with the archive search function. I've searched that stupid site for 20 minutes with no luck; it used to be instantaneous.


Here's Some Porn Special Olympics for you:
Sorry, but I've always thought AVN was full of a bunch of lazy, inept poor excuses for journalists. I did think AVN got considerably better in the last year or so (and I've mentioned that a few times here on XPT) but this Kanye fiasco just proves nothing's changed.

AVN's run a few press releases by me over the years, usually just deleting a few words and passing it off as an original; Here's one in particular. Don't worry, I find it ridiculous XBIZ posts AP stories too with one sentence changed and passes them off as their own with a new author. So yeah, AVN writers passing off stories from other sources as their own or with weird quotes is nothing new; its just the first time everyone from MTV to Kanye himself has called out on some lazy reporting.


Hell, even before that I knew AVN had to be either pretty stupid or full of shit; somehow, XPT's own favorite resident Safe-Sex lunatic Anita Cannibal talked your company into paying for her to go down to San Diego and write a story on me back in the day:
UCSD Students Battle Censorship with Demonstration

It ended up working for me in the end; seeing her write at an 8th grade level proved to me she really wasn't as smart as she was claiming to be and to probably put off the possible plan of applying to the same law school together (as we had discussed for a few weeks after meeting at AEE) as she obviously wasn't going to get into anywhere accredited. She didn't.

Yet AVN did post it and pay her for it. So take that for what its worth.
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#399511 - 02/16/09 06:18 AM Re: AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
Bornyo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
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What happened Borenyo? I point out your favorite retard radio rejects Opie and Anthony and their shitty programming are one of the big reasons Sirius XM is trading at 1/600th of what it used to (with Stern, Bubba the Love Sponge and the rest of the shylocks' whose "Armies" never materialized as subscribers despite their incessant hot air to the contrary)...and now I'm your #1 idiot? Heh. That kind of makes me proud.




I'm not a fan of any of the individuals you mention. Stern dumping his Sirius stock may have something to do with the state of the company but none of these shock jocks were the basis on which sat. radio was built.

Don't you have a hollywood "best boy guild" meeting to attend?

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#399512 - 02/16/09 07:18 AM Re: AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
Nate Offline
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Registered: 03/15/05
Posts: 145
Loc: Whoreville
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It looks like Hush Hush's Nate owes ME a giant fucking thank you; he's been ranting for a few weeks about AVN ads supporting piracy here on XPT and how he wants to confront them. Now that a major person from AVN is posting here I'm assuming his questions/accusations can now come forth.

(You fucking owe me big time Nate!)





I don't owe you shit ginger. I'm fully capable of speaking to people at AVN regarding my criticisms of their AVN Ads program. If you read my site (which its clear from your comments that you do), you'd know that I've had numerous 'debates' with Paul Fishbein which I've posted. I don't just talk shit about AVN online and then go into hiding, I actually speak to people at AVN on a fairly regular basis. If you can't see how I'm a fan of XPT and JM and then understand why I'd consider certain people at AVN to be really fucking cool guys...well then you'll just have to do a little investigative journalism there friendo.

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...considering the Shane's World "Name" seems to be used less and less in favor of Hush Hush...which just happened to coincide after Jack Venice's nationwide man hunt and life-time incarceration where the Shane's World name was brought up all over the media in connection with him)




Hmmm...actually we have done about 2 Hush Hush PR's in the past year, including the Kanye West one, versus about a dozen SW ones. So I don't see how you can substantiate your claim there. I know you want to make this Jack Venice thing your war cry but it just isn't sticking dude.

And like David said, AVN NEVER ran my Kanye West PR, much to my chagrin but whatever. AVN ran the same story everyone else did, that there was the buzz on the internet and like David said, their original post questioned the validity of it. After AVN, TMZ, and yes..PornNewz, all ran the same story, we were all contacted by a rep for KING Magazine asking to remove or correct it. I reissued our PR, the offer to Kanye still standing, and many sites either corrected their stories or just left them intact. So I don't know what kinda scandal you think you've uncovered here, but in the end you have jack shit dude, you're just reaching to try and find something...anything...to rip on Shane's World and AVN for.

If you want to rip on AVN, ask them about AVN Ads...that should be plenty scandalous for you. You'll likely get the same responses that I've gotten. Paul will tell you that they just licensed their name to Etology, while workers for the company will tell you that they are just doing their job and may not agree with everything the company does but that they personally have no control over the decisions that Paul makes. My problem with AVN Ads has and always will start and stop with Paul Fishbein, as he makes the decisions. I have no qualms with David, Nelson, Mark or any of the other people there.

Oh and I did my own little ripping into Violet Blue on my site, I like to think that between David and I...she's been pretty thoroughly debunked. While AVN took her on for misquoting and misrepresenting what was actually a really great article by Nelson X, I took her on for being a closed minded psuedo-intellectual elitist spouting off about how porn should be all like Candida Royalle and Alt-Porn. It's actually a decent read, but I'm sure you read it already.
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#399513 - 02/16/09 07:58 AM Re: AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
BIFF™ Offline
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Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 1460
Loc: Down there
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Sullivan I have no idea what you are talking about but just to save you some time, stevie why is an idiot and he is treated as such here. Don't waste your time.




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#399514 - 02/16/09 08:36 PM Re: AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
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Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
who the fuck cares about those "industry people" douchebags? what i only really care is for watch a whore suck and get fucked and...

Stevie for Christ Sake's get a real life, fucking moron loser.

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#399515 - 02/17/09 03:16 PM Re: AVN and David Sullivan: Pot/Kettle?
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
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I'm not a fan of any of the individuals you mention. Stern dumping his Sirius stock may have something to do with the state of the company but none of these shock jocks were the basis on which sat. radio was built.




Uh, uncensored commercial-free radio out of the jurisdiction of the FCC has been what satellite radio's emphasized for five years now with the shock jocks as their main selling point. Its neither commercial free or uncensored; remember when XM suspended O and A for a month after some random homeless fuck wanted to rape Condoleeza Rice?

Both satellite radio companies looked full of shit after Opie and Anthony/XM and Stern/Sirius ripped into each other for years bashing each other (even before either of them were on satellite even)...while their companies were secretly discussing a merger to save their floundering indebted asses. Sorry, but this bullshit arguing and ego-inflating was enough for me to end my subscription.

And those Hollywood Best Boy Guild talks are on hold until after the SAG strike's settled.
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