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#395045 - 01/29/09 08:50 PM Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Eminence Front Offline
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From: http://avnmag.avn.com/articles/34339.html

But where will he serve his time?
By Mark Kernes

LOS ANGELES - Producer/director Max Hardcore and a small entourage including girlfriend Layla Rivera pulled into the parking lot near the building housing the U.S. Marshal Service in downtown L.A. at about 2:45 this afternoon. Max, a.k.a. Paul Little, was supposed to surrender himself to the marshals at noon to begin serving his sentence for interstate transportation of obscene matter and posting obscene material on the Internet, and he was running a little late.

"It's okay," he said as he hurried up Alameda Street toward the Justice Center. "I've got 'em on the phone, and as long as I show up before 4 o'clock, I'm okay."

Stopping just short of the entrance, he turned to the reporters and cameramen who'd been following his progress.

"I'd just like to say, as an American and a guy who really believes in this country and supports it, it's a real disappointment," he said. "I guess at my age I shouldn't be disappointed by these things anymore, but I keep holding out hope that things will change. Basically, we've got a good country and with the new man at the helm, maybe we can get beyond this and adjust the laws to reflect what the public really feels. I think the public has spoken, and I think the public is right. The American people together have spoken, and when they speak, that should be the law. I respect that the law is as it is. I'm disappointed that they found me guilty down there [in Tampa]. But I respect it. I'm here to turn myself in and as a lover of freedom, I'm not too happy about that, but that's the way it is and, well, I'll see you guys later."

"When I come back, when I get out, I'm going to reevaluate things and decide what I'm going to do," he added, "and if things haven't changed for the better, I might just have to move someplace; I don't know. I don't want to; I support my country and I never want to leave here or live anywhere else. This is the greatest country on earth. God bless America."

But while Little was supposed to begin serving his 46-month sentence at the Lompoc Federal Correctional Complex about 175 miles northeast of L.A., adjacent to Vandenberg Air Force Base, it was unclear when or even if he would be transported there.

"He told me that when they assigned him here originally, they did not give him any assignment that he was going to leave here," said photographer Marc Medoff, referring to the downtown Justice Center, "and although this is a temporary facility, 'temporary' means different things. Apparently he was told by the different lawyers he spoke to about this that 'temporary' can be up to like three years, in theory, and he has no guarantee that he's going anywhere else."

However, Little's video editor at Max World Entertainment, Paulie Bussinger, believed that Little would indeed wind up at Lompoc.

"There's some mechanisms available for appealing why he's going to be put here, and they may have plans to send him off to Lompoc and this is just a designation center; there may be some sort of intake and they'll just process him here and they'll eventually shoot him out there. If not, yeah, they actually do have a permanent facility where they can keep him for up to three years here, called Five North."

"Nobody really knows," Bussinger continued, "and the Bureau of Prisons really doesn't answer to anybody, so they want everything done in writing or in person. We're going to stay in touch and we're going to do everything possible to make his stay as convenient and comfortable as it can be. Being that he's here is ridiculous and anybody with half a brain knows it, so we're going to do whatever we can for him and hopefully he'll be out of here very soon."

It appeared that Little would be staying at Five North at least overnight, as the small assemblage watched a federal marshal escort Little from the intake center across the entrance to the building's parking lot and toward what was believed to be the Five North area.

According to Little's brother Pete, who accompanied him into the Justice Center, wherever Little winds up serving his time, he could be out in as little as 32 months, if he obeys all the rules and participates in an alcohol treatment program. And of course, if Little's appeal to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals is successful, he could be released much sooner than that.

"All I know is that the appeal is in process," Pete Little said. "I'm told by the attorneys that once they get their briefs filed, the Eleventh Circuit could hear the case in as little as two months, but it's more likely to be six to nine months before they hear it, and even longer before they decide it, so he could serve half his sentence and still be found not guilty."

Both Pete Little and Paulie Bussinger said that they would keep fans apprised of developments regarding Paul Little's imprisonment, including a mailing address for him once he gets settled.

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#395046 - 01/29/09 08:56 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
tattypatty Offline
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....for making a fucking dirty movie. If America wants to keep spreading 'freedom' to the rest of the world, maybe they should practice it a home first.....
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#395047 - 01/29/09 09:00 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
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Registered: 03/14/08
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....for making a fucking dirty movie. If America wants to keep spreading 'freedom' to the rest of the world, maybe they should practice it a home first.....



Well said Tatty
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#395048 - 01/29/09 09:01 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Eminence Front Offline
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Loc: Hollywood, CA
3 fucking years, really this is so fucking wrong.

On a side note he should be located here soon.
USP Lompoc
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#395049 - 01/29/09 11:09 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Mark_J Offline
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Registered: 10/02/08
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^ I get the sinking feeling Dick Delaware will be lounging in MAX monogrammed bath robe and slippers by the weekend.


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#395050 - 01/30/09 05:27 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Vizzle Offline
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Truly a sad day for free speech and for our country.
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#395051 - 01/30/09 05:40 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
backdoorman Offline
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Registered: 09/01/08
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Fucking Nazis. This country is headed for bad times. A lot worse than anything Bush has done. Where's the fucking ACLU in any of these types of prosecutions ?
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#395052 - 01/30/09 05:46 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Vizzle Offline
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Where's the fucking ACLU in any of these types of prosecutions ?




Too busy answering Darrah's calls about how all females are abused, even if they don't know it.
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#395053 - 01/30/09 06:02 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Bon Vivant Offline
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Registered: 05/21/07
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Did Max ask the ACLU for help? I don't think they employ mind readers, you do have to call.
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#395054 - 01/30/09 06:14 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Bornyo Offline
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The ACLU has handled some pretty distasteful cases but I'd be surprised if any of their lawyers would handle Max's. The makeup of that organization leans more towards Darrah's point of view.

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#395055 - 01/30/09 08:39 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
have2cit Offline
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I thought Obama was going to come in and stop all this conservative nonsense? Has he put a halt to the Evil Angel prosecution yet?

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#395056 - 01/30/09 08:43 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
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Registered: 01/25/06
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^^^ Rebs beating dead horse.

Lots of respect for you H2C, but posts like that make me believe you're one of the dumb fuckers in this country who believe he's also going to work miracles with the economy in the next year or 2, all based on exaggeration from his detractors.
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#395059 - 01/30/09 08:59 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
Now that Max is in Club Fed I'll say it:

His lawyers ran a terrible fucking case, full of blunders and all it did was cost Max hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars. If anything its strengthened obscenity cases, not weakened them. This should be a big wake-up call to anyone thinking about retaining Jeffrey Douglas or Lou Sirkin.
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#395061 - 01/30/09 09:43 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
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Registered: 02/23/05
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Obviously they should have sent a lifelike Max robot to jail and Max could have stayed free to fight crime in an anonymous costume.

- Stevie, coming to you from the intersection of arrested adolescent development and comic book fixation

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#395062 - 01/30/09 10:34 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
xvod Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 698
Loc: CA
Max Hardcore should do his fuckin' time and stop wasting money on appeals. What's he gonna do??? Sit for a year, maybe 18 months?? His money would be better spent bribing Obama - um, sorry I mean making a donation to the presidential library - for a pardon. It's called working the system.

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#395063 - 01/30/09 12:21 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
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Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
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^^^ Rebs beating dead horse.

Lots of respect for you H2C, but posts like that make me believe you're one of the dumb fuckers in this country who believe he's also going to work miracles with the economy in the next year or 2, all based on exaggeration from his detractors.





More like wondering satirically why it was so important for him to remove the stain of Gitmo, while allowing the rape of the 1st amendment to continue unabated in this way. Maybe it's just that muslim terrorists are more important to him than American porners.

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#395064 - 01/30/09 12:23 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
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Posts: 4856
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- Stevie, coming to you from the intersection of arrested adolescent development and comic book fixation





Mega lolz!
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#395065 - 01/30/09 03:06 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
I'm pretty sure that pink Super-Man outfit is sitting in Max's creepy closet right now next to the malfunctioning Max-Bot.

How much did Max spend on his defense? $300K? $500K? MORE?

Jeffrey Douglas' track record isn't that good; can *anyone* point to his last legal victory? I would have gone with a local Florida attorney on the younger side, maybe a few years out of law school. Between Douglas, Sirkin and that bloated creep Mark Kernes sitting in the court room it must have looked like a gathering of old pedophiles; not really the first impression you want to give a jury dealing with material like Max's.

He should have made a cut with his past representation and gone with someone new and kept the attorneys to a minimum; the arguments and appeals were all over the place chasing five different confusing legal angles. Hell, even someone with little experience with obscenity (how many obscenity cases do you think that Tampa court deals with?) could have dealt with it and maybe come up with a new angle more receptive to a local jury.

Someone similar to Lawrence Walters would have been better; someone local to Florida, nice-looking and photogenic enough to deal with the media to raise the heat on the court. I see Walters all the time on the O'Reilly Factor and at least seems to appeal to the conservative types I'm sure the jury was stocked with...can you say the same about Max's representation?


Hell, retaining someone local would have saved tens of thousands in travel costs. Did Jeffrey Douglas charge $350 an hour as he sat on a 757 First Class to Florida every time?



He should have gone with someone willing to gamble and make their legal name with a case like this, not a boat load of fucking money.
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#395066 - 01/31/09 03:22 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Visaman Offline
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Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 94
I've started re-watching the HBO drama OZ, I am on season 5. Mr. Hardcore will be lucky if he is released at all, let alone without a swastika burned into his ass.

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#395068 - 01/31/09 11:10 AM Re: Max Hardcore Sexually Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
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Registered: 12/28/05
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wonder how his first nite was? Can we write to him???

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#395069 - 01/31/09 11:31 AM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Mark_J Offline
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Registered: 10/02/08
Posts: 2058
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I'm pretty sure that pink Super-Man outfit is sitting in Max's creepy closet right now next to the malfunctioning Max-Bot.




Are you talking about Layla? If so that's pretty fucking funny. That'd be a great description of those pics of her at the going-away party, where she was just kind of slumped half dead on the bed, etc.

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#395071 - 01/31/09 03:41 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Moxie Offline
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Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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I predict the following.

2) The court will grant his appeal and remand his case back to the trial court for another trial.





I haven't followed this case. What legal error do you believe was committed? The chances of an Appellate court overturning the jury's finding of fact is practically zero.
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#395072 - 01/31/09 04:02 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
JRV Offline
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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I haven't followed this case. What legal error do you believe was committed? The chances of an Appellate court overturning the jury's finding of fact is practically zero.



There are clear errors of law, starting with trying Max in Florida in the first place. Max neither sold nor shipped anything to Florida and so didn't have any tangible nexus to Florida. The Trial Court found that having a link on Max's web site to the retailer who *did* sell & ship the video was sufficient. That right there is a major issue (and a huge issue to every manufacturer in the US).

I heard a *rumor* that the jury admitted discussing book deals etc during deliberations. If true that would certainly raise questions about the jury.

The actual filings are presumably available somewhere?
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#395073 - 01/31/09 05:12 PM Re: Max Hardcore Surrenders To U.S. Marshals
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Sun Diego
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There are clear errors of law, starting with trying Max in Florida in the first place. Max neither sold nor shipped anything to Florida and so didn't have any tangible nexus to Florida. The Trial Court found that having a link on Max's web site to the retailer who *did* sell & ship the video was sufficient. That right there is a major issue (and a huge issue to every manufacturer in the US).




The court saw through that ruse as a ridiculous attempt to exploit a legal loophole that really doesn't exist.

Once again; who was giving Max this legal advice? His decision to make "European Only" editions was absolutely stupid; he basically admitted right there it would be declared obscene by saying that American standards are so much less hardcore than "European" ones...

Max should have made one single cut, distributed it himself and stuck to a solid argument; Jeffrey Douglas has been obsessed with all these weird interpretations of "secondary producers" for years and convincing his clients to go along...and this time it blew up in Max's face.
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