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#391688 - 01/16/09 10:29 PM Erotica or Porn??
MrBelvedere Offline
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Registered: 03/19/07
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Is Andrew Blake stuff more erotica or is it all just considered porn?

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#391689 - 01/16/09 10:38 PM Re: Erotica or Porn??
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to me last time I saw that...its artsy...but most of my "right" friends say...anything nude...is porn....so we are back to square 1.

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#391690 - 01/16/09 10:48 PM Re: Erotica or Porn??
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Registered: 03/19/07
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Well, back in the day, I would leave a Blake DVD in the player at all times, so say I just had dinner with a chick and a few drinks, "lets go back to your place and watch a movie" OK. Plop on the couch, turn on the tube, and "oops, oh damn I must have left that in there!"...."no ..hold on..what is that?" and, BAM!, 20 minutes later on floor in front of the TV. It worked everytime, but, when I tried it with just "bump and grind" porn I always got a weird look.

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#391691 - 01/16/09 11:18 PM Re: Erotica or Porn??
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Well, back in the day, I would leave a Blake DVD in the player at all times, so say I just had dinner with a chick and a few drinks, "lets go back to your place and watch a movie" OK. Plop on the couch, turn on the tube, and "oops, oh damn I must have left that in there!"...."no ..hold on..what is that?" and, BAM!, 20 minutes later on floor in front of the TV. It worked everytime, but, when I tried it with just "bump and grind" porn I always got a weird look.




That’s because (Blake shit) its porn with something of a "plot"....couples erotica/high end/big budget scenes..Then the other gonzo/wall to wall is more straightforward..in your face HARDCORE FUCKING…no bullshit there!

So this would simply depend on the class or lack thereof of the intended female....some need wine and other enhancements...while others are more direct in their approach and need not such stupidity...I myself like variables to solicit different responses from said subjects.

It’s always good to diversify and have a broader area as to be able to get and keep your viewers or targeted audiences attention.


or simplisticly put...its the difference between "making love" or "fuckin".

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#391692 - 01/16/09 11:25 PM Re: Erotica or Porn??
Stevie Why Offline
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Registered: 05/16/07
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Can you go back to the Mr. Belvedere pic? That thing made this place just a bit funner.
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#391693 - 01/16/09 11:30 PM Re: Erotica or Porn??
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Can you go back to the Mr. Belvedere pic? That thing made this place just a bit funner.



thats a real sign they use in Korea..a bunch of toilet peekers I guess.

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#391694 - 01/17/09 01:15 AM Re: Erotica or Porn??
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to me last time I saw that...its artsy...but most of my "right" friends say...anything nude...is porn....so we are back to square 1.




tru dat. but if you say that to some of those "erotic models" they take great offense to a lumping what they do in with "porn".

I was introducing a friend of mine to as girl who works as a erotic model, and was totally fumbling as to saying what she does as I'm used to explaining porn chicks....
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#391695 - 01/17/09 01:59 AM Re: Erotica or Porn??
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to me last time I saw that...its artsy...but most of my "right" friends say...anything nude...is porn....so we are back to square 1.




tru dat. but if you say that to some of those "erotic models" they take great offense to a lumping what they do in with "porn".

I was introducing a friend of mine to as girl who works as a erotic model, and was totally fumbling as to saying what she does as I'm used to explaining porn chicks....




Its a touchy subject...at a mixed event....folks from different socioeconomic backgrounds...its hard anyway you slice it....great cocktail conversation through....sometimes it quite hard to say with a straight face...that she’s a "model"....and she’s 4'11 93lbs with 36GGG tits.....its almost kinda obvious...what "kind" of modeling that she does...but with a certain level of tact....anything is possible.

The original idea I was trying to convey was that some conservatives/conservative groups find “porn” that way…..a dumping ground for all that is nudity…..I think Former AG Ashcroft clothed some of the statues at the DOJ….with closed minded individuals come some seriously bizarre close minded arguments/decisions…..

Now getting back to your erotic model friend either she stands her ground as what she is….since as they say……erotic models of today….are the porn stars of tomorrow.

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#391696 - 01/17/09 02:32 AM Re: Erotica or Porn??
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Registered: 10/21/05
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Blake's stuff is by-and-large 'plotless' as in there's no interconnected storyline and script/dialogue to speak of. It's as close to free form or improv as you're going to get...jazz porn, so to speak.

Perhaps Blake's niche of 'moving wallpaper', and the inherent appeal it seems to have with those of the fairer sex (aside from gangbang enthusiasts like Holly Randall), can be traced back to the old adage that 'It is better to stay silent and be thought an idiot than to open you mouth and confirm it'.

When the character has no voice, you are forced to imagine one of your owwn, and thus it is easier for the female to relate to the performer on screen. Whereas with either a conventional feature or gonzo, there are stumbling blocks in the form of the actions of the character ('Oh gosh...if you could replace that fuse that has blown, I'll suck your cock') and indeed the quality of the performer's delivery (i.e., if they look and sound completely unconvincing and out of their depth while delivering their lines). The stumbling block is that the woman does not consider herself a simpering bimbo that just takes it up the ass at the drop of a hat. The lack of plot and dialogue forces the viewer to create their own interpretation of what is transpiring before their very eyes...it merely adds to the mystique and mystery. If a girl gets caught shoplifting by some security guard, or her car breaks down and she has to call out a mechanic, then you know exactly what is going to happen next.

If we contrast this with Blake's approach...wherein there are no such stumbling blocks to the female viewer identifying with the performer, and the performer is well made up, well dressed, in a stylish, well-lit location...with (insert Brandon Iron screencap here), then we see that what transpires on the screen becomes aspirational erotica, i.e., porn that does not degrade women, but rather upgrades them.






That, and you don't have to listen to any stunt cocks running their mouths incessantly either.

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#391698 - 01/17/09 08:57 AM Re: Erotica or Porn??
MrBelvedere Offline
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Registered: 03/19/07
Posts: 510
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Blake's stuff is by-and-large 'plotless' as in there's no interconnected storyline and script/dialogue to speak of. It's as close to free form or improv as you're going to get...jazz porn, so to speak.

Perhaps Blake's niche of 'moving wallpaper', and the inherent appeal it seems to have with those of the fairer sex (aside from gangbang enthusiasts like Holly Randall), can be traced back to the old adage that 'It is better to stay silent and be thought an idiot than to open you mouth and confirm it'.

When the character has no voice, you are forced to imagine one of your owwn, and thus it is easier for the female to relate to the performer on screen. Whereas with either a conventional feature or gonzo, there are stumbling blocks in the form of the actions of the character ('Oh gosh...if you could replace that fuse that has blown, I'll suck your cock') and indeed the quality of the performer's delivery (i.e., if they look and sound completely unconvincing and out of their depth while delivering their lines). The stumbling block is that the woman does not consider herself a simpering bimbo that just takes it up the ass at the drop of a hat. The lack of plot and dialogue forces the viewer to create their own interpretation of what is transpiring before their very eyes...it merely adds to the mystique and mystery. If a girl gets caught shoplifting by some security guard, or her car breaks down and she has to call out a mechanic, then you know exactly what is going to happen next.

If we contrast this with Blake's approach...wherein there are no such stumbling blocks to the female viewer identifying with the performer, and the performer is well made up, well dressed, in a stylish, well-lit location...with (insert Brandon Iron screencap here), then we see that what transpires on the screen becomes aspirational erotica, i.e., porn that does not degrade women, but rather upgrades them.






That, and you don't have to listen to any stunt cocks running their mouths incessantly either.




Well put. I actually like his stuff. I guess if I had my choice of scenarios I would rather have a "model" looking girl in some La Perla and Gucci heels than just some big tits in someones basement.

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#391699 - 01/17/09 04:21 PM Re: Erotica or Porn??
Anonymous
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Quote:

Blake's stuff is by-and-large 'plotless' as in there's no interconnected storyline and script/dialogue to speak of. It's as close to free form or improv as you're going to get...jazz porn, so to speak.

Perhaps Blake's niche of 'moving wallpaper', and the inherent appeal it seems to have with those of the fairer sex (aside from gangbang enthusiasts like Holly Randall), can be traced back to the old adage that 'It is better to stay silent and be thought an idiot than to open you mouth and confirm it'.

When the character has no voice, you are forced to imagine one of your owwn, and thus it is easier for the female to relate to the performer on screen. Whereas with either a conventional feature or gonzo, there are stumbling blocks in the form of the actions of the character ('Oh gosh...if you could replace that fuse that has blown, I'll suck your cock') and indeed the quality of the performer's delivery (i.e., if they look and sound completely unconvincing and out of their depth while delivering their lines). The stumbling block is that the woman does not consider herself a simpering bimbo that just takes it up the ass at the drop of a hat. The lack of plot and dialogue forces the viewer to create their own interpretation of what is transpiring before their very eyes...it merely adds to the mystique and mystery. If a girl gets caught shoplifting by some security guard, or her car breaks down and she has to call out a mechanic, then you know exactly what is going to happen next.

If we contrast this with Blake's approach...wherein there are no such stumbling blocks to the female viewer identifying with the performer, and the performer is well made up, well dressed, in a stylish, well-lit location...with (insert Brandon Iron screencap here), then we see that what transpires on the screen becomes aspirational erotica, i.e., porn that does not degrade women, but rather upgrades them.






That, and you don't have to listen to any stunt cocks running their mouths incessantly either.




I am a bit closed minded when it comes down to content.....

its either straight HARDCORE FUCKING with 2.3 sec of plot and/or dialogue...or the "blake" shit....more couples/female friendly....chick porn...

its like watching unauthorized signals before HBO was scrambled....watching waiting for a tit...yes I saw a tit....

some my senses are a bit distorted or simply just desentisized ...

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#391700 - 01/17/09 06:22 PM Re: Erotica or Porn??
inebriated kiwi Offline
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Registered: 12/25/08
Posts: 843
Loc: Sydney Australia
Andrew Blake is girl friendly porn. It's the shit you put in the DVD player when you've got a girl over at your place and you want to set the mood.

The other option is putting Gag Factor or Max Hardcore on and watching your potential fuck walk out the door after slapping your face.

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#391701 - 01/17/09 10:33 PM Re: Erotica or Porn??
Holly Randall Offline
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Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
I love Andrew Blake's stuff, but I could never get turned on by it. Then again, I'm a sick puppy.
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