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#390680 - 01/14/09 06:03 PM
Skeeter talks About Spiegler's BJ Policy
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http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=32321In my latest conversation with Skeeter Kerkove he went off on talent agent Mark Spiegler. Spiegler got a lot of press courtesy of the Las Vegas Weekly during the recent AEE show and was treated like a Love God, but that doesn’t seem to impress Skeeter who frequently brings up an incident when Spiegler told Jayna Oso to stay away from Skeeter and not to fuck him. “I remember what Melissa Lauren used to tell me, and Katja Kassin and Katsuni, and Jayna Oso,” says Skeeter. “Oh man it’s so hard being with Mark. He lives in this nasty apartment. He wants to control your life, then he wants his blowjobs.” “He does enforced blowjobs with his girls,” states Skeeter. “I have it on BTS of Jayna Oso, Melissa Lauren, Katja Kassin and Katsuni talking about it. Jerry Van Nuys shot it. I know Mark loves Adult DVD Talk because they don’t know he lives in a little ghetto apartment that’s so crappy it makes the girls cry. It’s one of the crappiest apartments in the Valley, that all the girls make jokes about. It’s that bad.” “Then I have Jayna Oso saying on BTS in my guest bathroom- and I can’t believe she used this word- that she keeps ‘incurring’ these charges. She said Spiegler always got mad at her telling her it’s wrong for her and her boyfriend who was having sex with transsexuals, to be delivering pizzas and Chinese food. Spiegler didn’t make money off of that and didn’t like it. It was some pretty wild stuff on the BTS [in a Mayhem movie.]” “Jayna Oso also put up her phone to my phone with Mark telling her not to fuck me,” Skeeter continues. “Jayna’s holding up the phone and Spiegler’s telling her don’t fuck him again. Whoa, I was fucking the bitch before he ever met her. Come on. I’m trying to hire her to do a good scene, but he kept calling her like an obsessive boyfriend. "Another time I almost vomited all over my pants when he told me, you know, Jayna and I are in love. Jayna and I got a thing for each other. I told him she like this guy who dates transsexuals, why should she like you. He told me he wasn’t going to let her date this guy any more. That’s what he told me. I told him I don’t care about the trannies, the pizzas or the Chinese food. I just wanted her to do a good scene and for him not to freak her out." “Because Jayna would do the double-anals for me with the evil black men. But Mark didn’t want it. And when Mark lost Sasha Grey and Katsuni, that took the wind out of his sails. That was it.” Skeeter remembers the time when he first contacted Spiegler about Oso. "I told him she does a great job and I’d like for you to represent her. He represents her. Then I find out about the breakup between Mike Sullivan and Derek Hay and Mark. If I had known that, I wouldn’t have given her to Mark. But it was too late. He’s telling her not to fuck me? This is ridiculous. "First off I’m not asking her to fuck me. We’d already done that before in a motel room for crissake. And then he came back saying that the scene she did for me didn’t pay enough and she needs more money two months later. After I gave the girl to him. Can you believe that? That motherfucker used to come over to my home and I’d let him film for free and have my fucking whore [Bridgette] for half price so he could pocket more money. So what the fuck is that motherfucker talking about? Telling Jayna Oso don’t do this, don’t do that. Then he wants enforced blowjobs. What a fucking creep." "He tells them don’t date any porn producers. Don’t date any porn directors. Yet he wants an enforced blowjob. Can you imagine sending your daughter to Mark Spiegler, how wrong would that be?" "Spiegler’s spiel has always been that he doesn’t need the money. How many times have you heard that? Many times. Then what are you doing? If you don’t need the money that means you’re a trick. David Christopher told me that when Spiegler’s daddy died, he got none of the inheritance. But when his mother died, he got it all. "He then met David Christopher and started investing money in him and made some money. And he got to be around beautiful girls. Then he met Mike McCormick and Mike Adams who belittled him all the time but he didn’t care because he got to be around beautiful girls." “You would tell people look at my cars, I’m not poor. But some of the girls would say, yes, your car’s expensive. But it’s used. Why do you live in an apartment that’s worth less than a car? That don’t make sense. "Mark Spiegler lives in an apartment but he tells girls that he’s a multi, multi-millionaire, that he doesn’t need the money. But if you ever got Katja Kassin or Melissa Lauren to talk, my God could they tell you forced blowjob stories. Because they sure did it on my set.” “Mark used to favor Bridgette and I because we hired more than anybody. There was a time in 2004 when the Kerkoves did 119 bookings in one year. Is it a lot for two people? That’s a lot. That’s a long time ago and things change. "But I’ll tell you that little guy is a fucking back-stabbing, trick-fucking bitch. I regret I ever let him use my house for free for location. I regret that I ever let him have Larry Flynt’s number one bodyguard fuck my wife’s ass for half price to help him make more money.”
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#390682 - 01/14/09 07:27 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
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#390683 - 01/14/09 07:32 PM
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Porn Jesus
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What a shithole apartment. What a scumbag.
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#390684 - 01/14/09 07:37 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
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What a shithole apartment. What a scumbag.
Shows you how much these girls love $$$ that when they turn up at his apartment and that fat, greasy, no good looking motherfucker opens the door to his sty they decide to stay there and suck his cock everynight.
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#390685 - 01/14/09 07:38 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I like Spiegler. He's a nice guy. But holy Krappa Krappa Gamma...get some furniture at the Spiegler sorority and clean that place!
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#390686 - 01/14/09 07:41 PM
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Sex Slave Trader
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What a shithole apartment. What a scumbag.
Shows you how much these girls love $$$ that when they turn up at his apartment and that fat, greasy, no good looking motherfucker opens the door to his sty they decide to stay there and suck his cock everynight.
You've got no fucking idea what you are talking about. Don't believe everything you read. Just most of it.
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#390687 - 01/14/09 07:42 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
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You've got no fucking idea what you are talking about. Don't believe everything you read. Just most of it.
Fill us in then...
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#390689 - 01/14/09 07:46 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
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#390690 - 01/14/09 07:46 PM
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Porn Jesus
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No hiding the fact that's a shithole. It makes it easier to believe the rest.
Next.
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#390691 - 01/14/09 07:47 PM
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Pervert
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...
i actually think that pad kinda nice.
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#390692 - 01/14/09 07:49 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...
i actually think that pad kinda nice.
What a fucking shock that is.
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#390693 - 01/14/09 07:51 PM
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Sex Slave Trader
Registered: 01/10/06
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No hiding the fact that's a shithole. It makes it easier to believe the rest.
Next.
You know, I try to maintain some objectivity on this board, because I have to deal with the people who actually work in the industry, so I rarely say what I know or think most of the time. At least not yet. All I can say is, don't base your opinion of Mark Spiegler on Skeeter and a couple shitty photos.
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#390694 - 01/14/09 07:56 PM
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Porn Jesus
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+1, Charlie. My friends who are or have been repped by Spiegler have glowing reviews on him. He has a very professional reputation.
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#390697 - 01/14/09 08:00 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 11/22/08
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Figures a darkie would like that apartment. Spiegler looks like a fucking troll. He could have all the ethics an biz savvy in the world, but he still looks like a creepy kidtoucher.
Why not pay one of the uglier whores $50 to clean the fucking place. Nasty. No wonder his good whores leave him.
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#390698 - 01/14/09 08:01 PM
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trust me when i tell you this charlie i got one hella story for your book. it will sell millions. pm me for a hint.
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#390699 - 01/14/09 08:13 PM
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Human Garbage
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"I regret that I ever let him have Larry Flynt’s number one bodyguard fuck my wife’s ass for half price to help him make more money.”
With a comment like that who can question Skeeters moral turpitude?
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#390701 - 01/14/09 08:33 PM
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Pervert
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charlie continues his tom brokaw like investigations.,,,
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#390702 - 01/14/09 08:36 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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The link to that story doesn't work because Gene Ross has removed it from his site.
I contacted Spiegler, who says that he spoke with Ross at 6:25 PM PST and that Ross removed the article minutes later. Spiegler adds, "Skeeter is a liar. I defy Skeeter or Gene to produce the tapes."
Which is exactly why we need a place like XPT to paste the interviews. If Skeeter can't produce the BTS I'll apologize, but I'm betting tomorrow the article goes back up along with links to the BTS footage.
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#390704 - 01/14/09 08:41 PM
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Porn Jesus
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http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=32323 Quote:
Mark Spiegler's Mad
--Gene Ross
I had a conversation with talent agent Mark Spiegler Wednesday night and told him I’d take down an earlier interview with Skeeter Kerkov until such time as Skeeter can produce a tape he’s referring to.
Skeeter claims that some of Spiegler’s girls had made some comments about alleged blowjobs and that he had it on a BTS tape.
“I defy Skeeter to produce that tape,” said Spiegler who claims he got contacted by Melissa Lauren almost as soon as the story went up.
“You know Skeeter’s not a reliable source,” continued Spiegler. “The girls have texted me already. It’s patently a lie.”
According to Spiegler the text of Lauren’s message to him was, “He’s [meaning Skeeter] fucking nuts. Drugs are bad.”
“You know Skeeter’s not a reliable source,” says Spiegler. “But if you can prove it, knock yourself out. You know he’s a liar. I know he’s probably upset that he’s not a centerpiece in the business any more. I helped the guy out from the beginning and never had a bad word with the guy. Ever. I don’t know what his problem is and where this came out of. But people are calling me and writing me.”
“I don’t care what Skeeter says," Spiegler continued.
"He says this kind of stuff all the time. But what’s fair is fair. Skeeter was probably drinking and talking shit. I know this never happened and I know he doesn’t have it on tape. Jayna Oso may have said it, but she was whacked out of her mind and he was banging the chick. All the others are level headed. I don’t know why Skeeter’s coming up with this stuff. It ain’t true and it never happened.”
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#390706 - 01/14/09 09:28 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Dude, what did your GagDaddy teach you? Whores lie. If I was a betting man I'd bet the video exists. If it wasn't porn I'd bet the video surfaces tomorrow. Because it's porn Skeeter could change his mind for any number of reasons.
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#390708 - 01/14/09 10:09 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I introduced this topic at the other board. Spiegler is reading this board, too. You can see it here. click
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#390709 - 01/15/09 05:00 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
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My friends who are or have been repped by Spiegler have glowing reviews on him.
1.) i read this as "My friends who are or have been raped by Spiegler..." {ha}
2.) this argument saddens me. a couple of years ago, spiegler forwarded my kerkove-laden myspace page to skeeter...
3.) does fucking skeeter like ANYBODY? i mean, besides me. {ha}
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#390710 - 01/15/09 06:01 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Here is my opinion and assessment, for which I have absolutely NO proof or solid basis other than my own Burglar-sense:
1) Spiegler conducts BUSINESS well and is KNOWN for that; it is why he still even has Girls willing to be repped by him, his reputation for making THEM money trumps all else, including his dodgy-scary appearance. But as Gia's testimony bears out, looks are totally deceiving.
2) His apartment actually makes TOTAL sense to me, and here's why: Look at the business he is in, and look at the general character and behavior of the typical porn whores we know. If this guy had a NICE apartment with NICE things in it, how long do you think it would last? Stuff would disappear at a regular rate and his "nice" apartment would soon have cig burns and stains, barf stains and who knows what else.....he is providing a TEMPORARY, LOW cost, SAFE residence for the girls in town working for him. By keeping things NO frills, he keeps his costs down, which benefits everyone. Whether he is wealthy or not, who knows. But even there, I KNOW plenty of people with money who tend to live BELOW their means for MANY MANY valid reasons. Even myself, I only blow money on shit I truly want and enjoy. I dont buy stuff merely to project a certain image or perception amongst other people.....FUCK them, let them make their own fortune and buy all kinds of useless shit to have around their house and attract scoundrels.
3) The Blowjobs: Isnt it basically a "given" that in a business where Sex is so frivolously performed and shown, that the relationship between an agent and his girls MAY be punctuated from time to time by some agrred upon sexual perks? Why would this be so shocking or bad? If Spiegler asks his girls, as part of their obligation to him, to suck his schlong once a month (or whatever), and they agree to it, whats the big deal? Even if he gets insistent and forceful in his demands to be sucked off....the girls can always jump ship and go to another agent and suck his dick, or maybe even SEE THELIGHT and just represent themselves?!?!? Badass Phrank helped himself to his inventory and even got hooked on his own supply as an agent/pimp. Its part of the game....
There have been a few times where a certain special whore-friend o fmine wanted/needed a few days away from her routine surroundings, and stayed at my burg_lair....naturally room and board was paid in blowjobs and gobbling.
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#390711 - 01/15/09 09:14 AM
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Pervert
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Truer words never spoken.
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#390713 - 01/18/09 12:57 AM
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Bukkake Boy
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I gotta call bullshit here.
I have had a couple of dealings with Mark, and I've interviewed a couple of his girls, and none of the girls I spoke with said one negative thing about Mark. The only thing that might possibly be construed as negative is that Mark puts up with very little shit from his girls. I can see how some PW's would find that a bad thing.
Also, this is a guy that didn't know me from Adam, and he went out of his way to help me out with a couple of interviews. He never asked for a nickel of compensation, he just asked that I be honest and professional.
Regarding everything Skeeter said, I really don't buy it. This is about the third explosion from him we've had in the last few months. He seems to be a bit of a drama magnet.
If Skeeter can produce this 'tape', I'll be awfully shocked.
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#390714 - 01/21/09 10:36 AM
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He seems to be a bit of a drama magnet...
Who? Skeeter??? He's the very picture of stability.
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#390718 - 01/22/09 04:04 AM
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Since when do we lend an ounce of credibility to anything Skeeter says? I gots mad love 4 Shylock!
I stole Skeeter's Blockbuster card... but the nigga got Netflix!
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#390719 - 01/22/09 04:27 AM
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Human Garbage
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Since when do we lend an ounce of credibility to anything Skeeter says? I gots mad love 4 Shylock!
I stole Skeeter's Blockbuster card... but the nigga got Netflix!
Who me? I don't believe anything he says. I just wanted to know if he has a son.
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#390721 - 01/22/09 04:35 AM
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Human Garbage
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So did Skeeter every produce the BTS tape, or was he just talking trash?
Gene Ross never posted an update. So I guess there was never a tape.
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#390722 - 01/22/09 04:44 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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So did Skeeter every produce the BTS tape, or was he just talking trash?
Gene Ross never posted an update. So I guess there was never a tape.
In the spirit of "Lame or Cool Guy" ... Lame.
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#390723 - 01/22/09 05:18 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Who me? I don't believe anything he says. I just wanted to know if he has a son.
He has said he has an older son. Go back to adultfyi and do more "research". And no he didn't produce the tape mentioned in the article about Spiegler, so apparently that was all a lie.
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#390724 - 01/23/09 04:57 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...
Do all apartments in the valley come furnished with porn whores? Can I get one furnished with Crystal Ray, Chanel Chavez and Judy Starr?
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#390729 - 02/16/09 08:02 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
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ooooooooh now this is getting good
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#390730 - 02/16/09 09:05 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Better call Porn Law, or if you'd like to win you better call someone decent.
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#390732 - 02/17/09 10:42 PM
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That guy looks half human/half animal.
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#390733 - 02/19/09 01:59 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
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That guy looks half human/half animal.
Yeah, but all the girls who he has on his books say he's a really sweet, nice guy.
In other words they get jobs through him so they pretend they like him and he gets to touch women who would normally cross the street rather than walk past him.
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#390737 - 02/21/09 03:29 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Holly, you're so reasonable and sane. You know you work in porn, right?
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#390742 - 02/23/09 01:31 AM
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Zip Coon
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...
Annette Schwartz is not a citizen, so I can understand her not having a more permanent residence here. But why doesn't a grown woman like Adrianna Nicole (pictured with her) have her own place to stay?
She's got to be approaching 30. Why does she need to stay in a "talent house" with the young, naive porners?
If I lived in LA she could stay with me. Of course the price would be bi-monthly ass reamings and weekly BJs.
Edited by tritone (02/23/09 01:33 AM)
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#390743 - 02/23/09 01:43 AM
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Pervert
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Give a black man power and he'll abuse it immediately.
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#390744 - 02/24/09 11:38 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...
Annette Schwartz is not a citizen, so I can understand her not having a more permanent residence here. But why doesn't a grown woman like Adrianna Nicole (pictured with her) have her own place to stay?
She's got to be approaching 30. Why does she need to stay in a "talent house" with the young, naive porners?
The reason is because she, like many performers, don't live in LA but come out for a week every month or so to do a bunch of scenes.
Also, I found this interesting passage regarding Spiegler in Lorelei Lee's personal history:
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Spiegler was this father figure. We had curfew and he drove us everywhere. It was like being a teenager. All we did was work every day. Spiegler is this older man in his fifties and he is very controlling and I think he would be lonely if he didn?t have girls living in his house. But he approached it like a businessman. He would encourage us to work all the time. He said it was for our own benefit. If you don?t work people forget who you are. At the time I believed everything he said but later I started to think everything was for him. He was getting his cut but I don?t think that was it. We had this sort of weird disfunctional family going on and I think that was a huge part of it for Spiegler. But I don?t think there was anything sinister about him. He?s a sweet and lonely guy. He would never try to hit on us or anything like that. He looks the way you think a porn agent is going to look. He?s got a big belly and he?s always wearing these t-shirts that have funny sayings. He always said, ?I wouldn?t mess with the girls. It?s bad for business. Then they get jealous of each other. I have to lock my door at night. I?m scared of them.?
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#390747 - 02/25/09 12:13 AM
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So is Skeeter ever going to have a response to this latest fraud he has hoisted on everyone? How often does he get called on his lines of bullshit?
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#390748 - 02/25/09 12:38 AM
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Mark looks like an even more disgusting version of El Duce.
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#390749 - 02/25/09 12:45 AM
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Mark looks like an even more disgusting version of El Duce.
Ha...good call.
R.I.P Duce.
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#390750 - 02/25/09 01:34 AM
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So is Skeeter ever going to have a response to this latest fraud he has hoisted on everyone? How often does he get called on his lines of bullshit?
This one is about to take an interesting turn...
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#390751 - 02/25/09 08:48 AM
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Do tell, Pornlaw. If you can hint around at it, surely you can shed a little more light on the situation.
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#390752 - 02/25/09 09:39 AM
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is he going to allege that he doesn't look half human / half woodchuck? he can't deny the charges! damn, jews love filing lawsuits. it's in their DNA.
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#390754 - 02/25/09 12:13 PM
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[ But why doesn't a grown woman like Adrianna Nicole (pictured with her) have her own place to stay?
Why do you assume she doesn't? Don't you ever have friends over to play?
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#390755 - 02/25/09 08:42 PM
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This one is about to take an interesting turn...
Why, oh why, would you choose to be the lawyer for one broke-ass motherfucker living in a squalid hovel (Spiegler) to "file a lawsuit" against some other broke-ass, illiterate and insane motherfucker (Kerkove) facing foreclosure(s)? What are the damages to reputation? And how is either of those two motherfuckers going to pay you?
If Spiegler had two nickels to rub together he'd buy some carpet cleaner, or a shirt with a collar on it. You've seen the photos, man.
I understand that being enmeshed in the world of porn has some advantages, like access to Vanessa Blue's anus, but come on dude! I like drugs and whores too, which is why I work for clients who can pay me, so I have money to spend on the drugs and whores.
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#390757 - 02/25/09 11:15 PM
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Why, oh why, would you choose to be the lawyer for one broke-ass motherfucker living in a squalid hovel (Spiegler) to "file a lawsuit" against some other broke-ass, illiterate and insane motherfucker (Kerkove) facing foreclosure(s)? What are the damages to reputation? And how is either of those two motherfuckers going to pay you?
Not me... I get to watch this one from the sidelines. I try to chose defendants with cash flow.
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#390758 - 02/25/09 11:21 PM
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Mark looks like an even more disgusting version of El Duce.
Or John Quade from Every Which Way But Loose.
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#390759 - 02/26/09 11:36 PM
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Annette Schwartz is not a citizen, so I can understand her not having a more permanent residence here. But why doesn't a grown woman like Adrianna Nicole (pictured with her) have her own place to stay?
She's got to be approaching 30. Why does she need to stay in a "talent house" with the young, naive porners?
Crunk would know better, but Adrianna is from the Bay Area. I don't believe she has residence in LA.
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#390761 - 02/27/09 06:51 AM
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Just re-read the title of this post. Is Skeeter upset that he had to give Spiegler a BJ or something ? Makes perfect sense.
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#390762 - 02/27/09 01:19 PM
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#390763 - 02/27/09 01:43 PM
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#390765 - 02/27/09 05:48 PM
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Wouldn't it be awesome if this were to somehow actually go to trial (HIGHLY DOUBT) and then be televised on Court TV (or whatever it's called now)?
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#390767 - 02/28/09 07:38 AM
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Of course there's always the possibility Skeeter produces the bts tape he said he had...
Where did the 3 million dollar amount come from Pornlaw? Not that Skeeter has the money but how does one arrive at that figure?
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#390770 - 02/28/09 10:00 AM
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Of course there's always the possibility Skeeter produces the bts tape he said he had...
Where did the 3 million dollar amount come from Pornlaw? Not that Skeeter has the money but how does one arrive at that figure?
Yeah, the $3 mil is a little confusing... Sounds good in a PR though. I never ask for an amount in a complaint. It just isnt necessary. According to proof is all hes going to get anyway...
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What I want to see is if Skeeter mounts the following last ditch defense.
Unable to prove that any of the four women made the statements he claimed and faced with their statements to the contrary, Skeeter is forced to argue that his statement is not defamatory, because other agents in the valley (other then Spiegler) have an occasional "required sex" policy, everyone in the business knows this, therefore such an allegation would actually not hurt Spiegler's reputation among the hoes.
Yes, Skeeter's BTS is going to be interesting, if he really does have it. From the girls I have talked to about Mark, no one has ever said he had a forced BJ policy. Vanessa was even with Mark several years ago and he treated her with nothing but respect.
The control Mark has over his girls is complete though. Even more so that Derek use to have. I think thats were some of this may come from. If Speigler calls a girl and says "leave the party" - she leaves.
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#390771 - 02/28/09 10:12 AM
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Even more so that Derek use to have. I think thats were some of this may come from. If Speigler calls a girl and says "leave the party" - she leaves.
Yeah, but alot of that comes with the Mafia Daddy reputation that Mark has, too, no?
He's a kick ass guy, on the numerous occasions I've run into him, but I've heard some intimidating tales from detractors. Fuck the haters.
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#390778 - 03/02/09 02:43 AM
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Right. And the story could benefit the rep of Mr Half Human/Half Woodchuck in some weird ways. I imagine him having sex with almost no one in his entire life because of his short/fat body and weird appearance. The story makes appear to not be totally sexless.
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#390779 - 03/03/09 08:52 PM
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Not me... I get to watch this one from the sidelines. I try to chose defendants with a big fat black ass that I might get to fuck
Isn't that how you got Vanessa?
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#390780 - 03/04/09 02:15 AM
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Spiegler should be called "the Groundhog" because he seems like the less glamorous little brother of Ron "the Hedgehog" Jeremy. Spiegler is like the shorter, fatter, smaller dicked version. Luckily they were both blessed with those handsome jewish facial features that the babes are so crazy about.
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#390781 - 03/05/09 11:20 AM
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Questions for the lawyers and fake lawyers out there:
1. Are AdultFYI and/or Ross named as co-defendants?
2. Didn't they publish a scandalous story to the world at large (presumably) without taking any steps to prove it was true through other sources?
3. What level of immunity do the 'press' have with defamation?
4. If they have any immunity at all, why wouldn't they set up an impecunious straw man as the source for all stories that might give rise to a claim in defamation?
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#390783 - 03/06/09 07:48 PM
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Questions for the lawyers and fake lawyers out there:
1. Are AdultFYI and/or Ross named as co-defendants?
2. Didn't they publish a scandalous story to the world at large (presumably) without taking any steps to prove it was true through other sources?
3. What level of immunity do the 'press' have with defamation?
4. If they have any immunity at all, why wouldn't they set up an impecunious straw man as the source for all stories that might give rise to a claim in defamation?
1. No
2. Depends on your point of view, or who his lawyer is.
3. Depends on the person being defamed and other factors.
4. They would have to reveal their straw man or lack thereof in the discovery procress. No real benefit.
I dont agree with paperchase that Speigler is a public figure though. I really dont think NY Times applies here.
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#390784 - 05/15/09 06:29 AM
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5/15/2009
05:17 AM PST
Spiegler Produces Four Declarations from His Clients--Gene Ross
Dear readers: On January 14, 2009, based on my conversations with Skeeter Kerkove, I reported that Mark Spiegler had an enforced blowjob policy with his female clients. Since that time I have had an opportunity to meet with Mr. Spiegler and review four declarations from his clients that were identified in my article. I have confirmed that Mr. Spiegler had no such policy and that Mr. Spiegler was wrongfully defamed by Mr. Kerkove. I made a mistake and I’m sorry for any damage that may have been caused by Mr. Kerkove falsely reporting the claim to me.
http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=34868
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#390785 - 03/04/10 12:44 PM
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#390786 - 03/04/10 03:41 PM
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One thing you have to say for Spiegler, if 2 of the supposed biggest shit heels around, DL and Skeeter, have problems w/ the guy, them most likely, he aint a shit heel.
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#390788 - 09/06/10 01:10 PM
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...
Is the washing machine in the living room? He could spend a few extra dollars for a home with a laundry room so it doesn't pile up in his work space. If his whores would just bring and wear less clothes, they wouldn't have to tiptoe around piles of clothes on the floor.
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#390789 - 09/06/10 05:11 PM
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Inside the Spiegler mansion. Hugh Hefner, eat your fuckin heart out...
Is the washing machine in the living room? He could spend a few extra dollars for a home with a laundry room so it doesn't pile up in his work space. If his whores would just bring and wear less clothes, they wouldn't have to tiptoe around piles of clothes on the floor.
If the washing machine is in the living room then I would have to think it would not only conserve space but also to let the hookers know that they actually HAVE to wash their articles of clothing after each shoot so they dont have that nasty ass smell + jizz, etc before there next shoot or at any other appearance in public.
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#390790 - 09/06/10 10:46 PM
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wheres the mattress for that bed?
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#390791 - 09/07/10 12:59 PM
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wheres the mattress for that bed?
good eye.....THAT is the mattress....boxsprings costs extra $$$!!!!! 
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#390792 - 09/07/10 02:37 PM
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I love Spiegs but I would go nuts living there. I have to live in a sparse environment free of clutter. I hate clutter so much, I don;t even like collecting things.
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#390798 - 12/16/10 01:27 PM
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Why does the phrase blood from a turnip come to my mind?
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#390801 - 12/16/10 04:50 PM
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This is an example of a defendant being too "smart" for his own good...
I can think of another potential defendant with the same hubris and the same c/w.
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#390803 - 12/16/10 06:01 PM
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^^^Hypothetically speaking, of course.
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#609548 - 04/20/14 06:50 PM
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Some anonymous person was reading this and it got me wondering if Spiegs ever collected on this. He's a good guy and if there were ever a pound o'flesh that were deserved, this would be it.
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