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#383991 - 12/27/08 11:07 AM
Re: Israel is Off the Chain Again
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Well, according to The New York Times, Hamas has been firing rockets across the border for weeks. What are they supposed to do, send 'em a fruitcake?
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#383992 - 12/27/08 03:30 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
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Loc: TX, USA
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Hamas has been firing rockets for weeks, but declared a unilateral end to the "cease-fire" (which apparently means fewer attacks than usual) a day or two ago and ramped up the attacks. That's where the Hamas rocket came from that hit the Palestinian school.
Shock: Israel fired back. They're allowed to do that under international law. If Hamas would quit firing on them the Israelis would stop or be made to stop.
Does Hamas really expect Bush or Obama to require Israel to stop firing back without Hamas stopping? All this does is tie Obama's hands, preventing him from trying a different policy than Bush/Clinton/Bush/Reagan/...
Elab, I'm all for forcing Israel to stop the attacks but we can't insist they stop without Hamas agreeing to stop too.
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#383994 - 12/28/08 08:24 AM
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Registered: 01/27/06
Posts: 3440
Loc: Jaundice Town
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yeah well they have whatever rights they want to do whatever they want to fight back but i don't think American taxpayers should be funding it.
Israel is a big boy they can handle it on their own.
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#383996 - 12/28/08 12:18 PM
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Registered: 10/19/06
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Excellent point.
I wouldn't mind seeing the Speilberg Air Guard flatten every mud hut in a 200 mile radius though.
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#383999 - 12/28/08 01:17 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/07/07
Posts: 576
Loc: Dolce Hottest Bukkake Babe
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Sometimes a dmz is a good thing.
That's been done before by Israel it's called a land grab.
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#384000 - 12/28/08 01:32 PM
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Registered: 10/19/06
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Settlers don't exist in a dmz. Hence the flattening of every mud hut etc..
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#384002 - 12/28/08 02:44 PM
Re: Israel is Off the Chain Again
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/07/07
Posts: 576
Loc: Dolce Hottest Bukkake Babe
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Settlers don't exist in a dmz. Hence the flattening of every mud hut etc..
DMZ should be on Israeli land then.
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#384003 - 12/28/08 03:17 PM
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You have to be a troll because real people just aren't this stupid.
A dmz is a frontier or boundary between two countries or military powers where military action is not permitted, usually by treaty or armistace. Do you really think the Israelis couldn't spend 48 hours and make the entire state of Palestine a dmz. With or without our help?(excluding Speilberg)
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#384005 - 12/28/08 03:41 PM
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Jesus Fuck Faced Christ...
200 Hundred Mile Radius.
I'm actually impressed though. No really.
I haven't seen a tard spin itself into the ground that hard in a long time. Well done, lawn dart.
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#384010 - 12/28/08 04:12 PM
Re: Israel is Off the Chain Again
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How on earth could England stand alone to the might of the Third Reich?
The same way Israel has stood "alone" against repeated attacks from its neighbors?
Remember Lend-Lease? You know, that US Taxpayer-Funded initiative that kept Britain in the war?
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#384012 - 12/28/08 04:45 PM
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Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 9958
Loc: fortified
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Iran couldn't possibly supply the way the Us and Uk can. Not on their best day. Then there's the palestinians. heh
Your arguement isn't us or them, nor Jew/Arab. What you're arguing against is logic vs ignorance. I'll leave it up to you to sort out the minutia. Maybe start with sticks and stones, then move on. Or don't.
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#384014 - 12/28/08 05:19 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 10/09/04
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I'd donate money if guaranteed it would exclusively fund more of this sort of thing.
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#384018 - 12/29/08 01:26 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/30/08
Posts: 7602
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^^^ Was waiting for Godwin's Law to kick in. Yeesh. Fuck the jews. Fuck the arabs. I am tired of the whole region. I'm gonna go jerk off now....
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#384019 - 12/29/08 01:45 AM
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Registered: 08/05/05
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Not calling anyone a nazi but I just thought it was cool to post a pic of a muslim (who else would make up a title as stupid as "grand mufti") and "'Dolph baby".
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#384022 - 12/29/08 11:49 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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from nyc protest of the recent gaza attacks
death to all (zionist) juice
given the security and shelter of his jail cell little did oj know that a fatwa had been issued against him
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#384024 - 12/31/08 12:22 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Crucifixion now legal in GazaQuote:
Both Iran and its Hamas proxy in Gaza have been busy this Christmas week showing Christendom just what they think of it. But no one seems to have noticed.
On Tuesday, Hamas legislators marked the Christmas season by passing a Shari'a criminal code for the Palestinian Authority. Among other things, it legalizes crucifixion.
Hamas's endorsement of nailing enemies of Islam to crosses came at the same time it renewed its jihad. Here, too, Hamas wanted to make sure that Christians didn't feel neglected as its fighters launched missiles at Jewish day care centers and schools. So on Wednesday, Hamas lobbed a mortar shell at the Erez crossing point into Israel just as a group of Gazan Christians were standing on line waiting to travel to Bethlehem for Christmas.
While Hamas joyously renewed its jihad against Jews and Christians, its overlords in Iran also basked in jihadist triumphalism. The source of Teheran's sense of ascendancy this week was Britain's Channel 4 network's decision to request that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad give a special Christmas Day address to the British people. Ahmadinejad's speech was supposed to be a response to Queen Elizabeth II's traditional Christmas Day address to her subjects. That is, Channel 4 presented his message as a reasonable counterpoint to the Christmas greetings of the head of the Church of England.
Channel 4 justified its move by proclaiming that it was providing a public service. As a spokesman told The Jerusalem Post, "We're offering [Ahmadinejad] the chance to speak for himself, which people in the West don't often get the chance to see."
While that sounds reasonable, the fact is that Westerners see Ahmadinejad speaking for himself all the time. They saw him at the UN two years in a row as he called for the countries of the world to submit to Islam; claimed that Iran's nuclear weapons program is divinely inspired; and castigated Jews as subhuman menaces to humanity.
They saw him gather leading anti-Semites from all over the world at his Holocaust denial conference.
They heard him speak in his own words when he called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."
And of course, over the years Ahmadinejad has often communicated directly to the British people. For instance, in 2007 he received unlimited airtime on UK television as he paraded kidnapped British sailors and marines in front of television cameras; forced them to make videotaped "confessions" of their "crime" of entering Iranian territorial waters; and compelled them to grovel at his knee and thank him for "forgiving" them.
The British people listened to Ahmadinejad as he condemned Britain as a warmongering nation after its leaders had surrendered Basra to Iranian proxies. They heard him - speaking in his own voice - when he announced that in a gesture of Islamic mercy, he was freeing their humiliated sailors and marines in honor of Muhammad's birthday and Easter, and then called on all Britons to convert to Islam.
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#384025 - 01/05/09 06:57 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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An interview with President-Elect Barrack Obama over the Gaza Crisis:H2C: What do make of the current crisis in the Gaza Strip? PEBO: "crickets" H2C: Do you think' like the French President, there should be a truce to allow humanitarian aid across the border? PEBO: "crickets" H2C: Is Israel or Hamas the real source for all the problems in Gaza and Israel? PEBO: "crickets" H2C: You're silence is causing some to say you are losing credibility with the Arab world, how do you address this? PEBO: "crickets" H2C: With your tight lipped response some have accused you of supporting the current President policies on the region, how do respond to that? PEBO: "crickets" Thanks to the President-Elect for all his insightful wisdom on the current crisis in Gaza. 
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#384026 - 01/05/09 07:50 AM
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I think Obama deserves praise for respecting Bush's presidency and not interfering. Really.
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#384027 - 01/05/09 08:13 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Do you really believe that's what he's doing? I mean he hasn't kept his mouth closed on similar differences of opinions like the bailout.
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#384028 - 01/05/09 09:27 AM
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#384030 - 01/05/09 10:04 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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The bailout is domestic policy while Israel destroying Gaza is a damn good thing and traditionally a president elect will draw the line at our borders.
Since the moratorium is over: Fixed!
So what your saying is Israel should just take it on the chin and not even bother to protect it's citizens from the Hamas rocket attacks?
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#384031 - 01/05/09 11:10 AM
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Registered: 01/27/06
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No but there is such a thing as proportionality.
I just hope that with a new administration we can start taking more of a middle ground in Middle East affairs and not allow the Jewish Lobby and far right religious voting blocks to determine our policy.
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#384032 - 01/05/09 11:23 AM
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Porn Jesus
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They shouldn't even try to stop the attacks? They should lob a bomb over the wall if and only if Hamas fires a rocket? Didn't you learn anything from the original Star Trek? Their goal is to end the attacks altogether.
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#384033 - 01/05/09 12:48 PM
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No but there is such a thing as proportionality.
I think that's overly idealistic and doesn't come close to matching the reality of the situation. Hamas has no sense of honor that translates to Western thought. They install rocket launchers in residential areas, store ammunition in schools, imbue their children with the most anti Semitic hate this side of Nazi Germany, and don't recognize the Geneva Convention.
I hope for a peaceful resolution to the whole situation in my lifetime, but the Palestinian leadership in Gaza is the unchained nihilistic fanaticism in this equation. Their sense of "Arab pride" or reclamation of "muslim land" has trumped any rational strategy.
If they could ever put these archaic notions aside, their best bet would be to play the Apartheid card and demand equal representation as citizens of Israel. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. This would be supported by precedence in S. Africa and would thus receive positive foreign support. Israel in turn would find this repulsive as they would lose Jewish majority and would make a bee-line towards breaking Palestine off into it's own country.
This notion isn't pie in the sky, it's a pragmatic solution that was brought to my attention by a friend, a former Israeli soldier and spook. The stumbling block is Arab humility and pride. Good luck with that.
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#384034 - 01/05/09 01:27 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/19/04
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Israel should fire off a tersely worded letter complaining about those rocket attacks. I am sure that would have done the job.  For all those upset about Israel's response being out of proportion to the rocket attacks- look at the bright side I am not in charge of the affairs of state for Israel, this is a measured response in comparison.
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#384035 - 01/05/09 02:21 PM
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Registered: 08/05/05
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Also keep the big picture in mind. A jew will only fuck you out of your money but a muslim will fuck you out of your life.
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#384036 - 01/05/09 03:30 PM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 06/22/07
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Has anyone figured out why Israel is acting now? Obama is a socialist poet pansy. He and his lefty base detest the military and would rather spend money on food stamps and health care for illegals than on the 'arsenal of democracy'. Obama can not appear weak to the world during his honeymoon period (the first 100 days). He will reluctently have to pledge support for Israel. Joe "Plugs" Biden echoed this during the campaign. If this had all gone down 6 months later, Obama would have been free to follow his dovish instincts and throw Israel to the Arab and Iranian wolves.
If Israel would acted before the election, McCain would have been elected. It would have reminded people what is at stake.
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#384039 - 01/06/09 09:49 AM
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Porn Jesus
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The point is that Hamas is USING it's civilians.
They knew what the Israelis would do.
Hamas is frustrated that they have been cut off since their election, and, most of all, they want the pass to Egypt opened.
Those like Elab can believe that they want humanitarian supplies and whatever. I tend to lean towards the view of Egypt, the EU, Fatah, etc., that they are a terrorist group who want more access to terror materials and need to be quarantined as much as possible.
Either way, it is Hamas who is hiding behind their civilians. It is Hamas who stores their weapons in Mosques. It is Hamas who has launch site in civilian areas.
In the end, there will be many, many dead Palestinians sacrificed so that Hamas has the opportunity to gain a relatively unrestricted pass to Egypt over time because having EU/UN monitors/peacekeepers never seems to work.
And, Hamas is "good" with that.
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