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#382917 - 12/23/08 11:45 AM
Re: Jack Venice: LIFE
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Porn Jesus
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The jury decided that the rape charge was credible, whether Jack's lawyer was competent beyond my knowledge, though keeping Jack off the stand was probably a good decision, the prosecution would have eaten him alive.
The first OJ jury let him go, doesn't mean it was the right decision. The fact that DNA was not a factor (because there was none) and the fact that the defense didn't call Jack to the stand says to me this was slam job, his lawyer knew it, and was just trying the minimize the time he had do.
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I have to look into it more though before writing anything about it.
Since when has your lack of knowledge on a subject kept you from regurgitating your ill informed opinion about it?
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#382919 - 12/23/08 12:21 PM
Re: Jack Venice: LIFE
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Porn Jesus
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If Jack would have gone on the stand the prosecutor would have asked him about every woman he hit on that night, caught him in some contradictions to his story and made him look like an evasive dissembling pervert. Oh, and Jack would have said he was really drunk that night. By keeping him off the stand his lawyer could go after the weaknesses in the prosecutions case without having to dig himself out from Jack cratering during his testimony.
That's an awful lot of maybes. I'm not saying Jack wouldn't hurt his own case (still a maybe), what I'm saying is why risk his credibility when you see he is being railroaded. Why not save his testimony for a possibly less hostile venue on appeal?
They have a lot of "evidence" but can't physically tie him to the room except through one coerced witness (going to receive less time) and a hung over whore who didn't even know she was being raped until after they fled? All she heard was the condom rapper, right? Just these two facts alone make the hinky hairs on the back of neck stand up and take notice.
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#382921 - 12/23/08 01:44 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Typically, isn't someone supposed to get a fair trial? There seems to be nothing typical about this case. How long have you been posting here? Don't you know by now, they're all whores.
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#382923 - 12/23/08 02:20 PM
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Porn Jesus
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In all cases, they're all whores, always. Truth.
According to the evidence laid out here, there all kinds of scenarios that are also plausible, I have seen nothing that confirms the jury decision, for me, but I'm more of a scientific type and like to see definite evidence. I can't just throw away my analytical nature and fall in line with a gut feeling like the police, prosecutors and jurors seem to do.
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#382925 - 12/23/08 04:49 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 12/03/08
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Why would someone like have2cit, be so adamant about supporting a convicted rapist? Could it be that they have something in common?
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#382927 - 12/23/08 06:34 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Why would someone like have2cit, be so adamant about supporting a convicted rapist? Could it be that they have something in common?
I DO NOT support Erik Everhard. Thank you.
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#382928 - 12/23/08 09:43 PM
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Whoremaster
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Wow, Have2cit, you have real women issues. There are two types of scenarios that could have caused this type of generalized hatred:
1) You have mommy anger issues (EXAMPLES - mom was a whore, you walked in on mom fucking your best friend, you caught mom blowing a black Fed Ex delivery man ETC)
2) You have been emasculated/sexually humiliated by women (EXAMPLES - a woman dumped you because your penis is too small, a woman laughed at your performance and told all her friends how lame you are, a woman dumped you for a rival who is a better lay ETC)
So, was it scenario type 1 or 2? Explain.
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#382929 - 12/24/08 12:57 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
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College campuses operate in a plastic bubble of political correctness. For this reason a woman crying rape the next morning is not unheard of, regardless of what she was saying the night before.
Crying rape? You do know that she never met him and he and his accomplice broke into the sorority she was sleeping in and attacked her while she was SLEEPING?
Dear stupid whore...
From Beck's Loser track, "Don't believe everything that you read..."
Merry Christmas Eve.
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#382930 - 12/24/08 01:06 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Schott testified...
This slimeball motherfucker should have his balls cut off, and while he bleeds to death, get shanked in the back with a rusty pair of scissors.
H2C's right 100%. Fucking kangaroo court needed to hang someone to appease the masses, so the corrupt court system arranged a visit to the gallows for Mr. Reid, based on the shit I've read (courtesy of Charlie).
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The jury decided that the rape charge was credible, whether Jack's lawyer was competent beyond my knowledge, though keeping Jack off the stand was probably a good decision, the prosecution would have eaten him alive.
Which is why our judicial system is FUCKED. I'd rather have a panel of experts tell me that I'm dead meat than a bunch of potential Christian Coalition members who may have heard the word porn star, and automatically judge guilt despite the evidence.
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#382931 - 12/24/08 05:28 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Wow, Have2cit, you have real women issues. There are two types of scenarios that could have caused this type of generalized hatred:
1) You have mommy anger issues (EXAMPLES - mom was a whore, you walked in on mom fucking your best friend, you caught mom blowing a black Fed Ex delivery man ETC)
2) You have been emasculated/sexually humiliated by women (EXAMPLES - a woman dumped you because your penis is too small, a woman laughed at your performance and told all her friends how lame you are, a woman dumped you for a rival who is a better lay ETC)
So, was it scenario type 1 or 2? Explain.
It's more like:
3. Unlike you I've actually moved away from my parents home in order to meet and talk to a lot of real women (not the fake ones on the internet) from all over the world so I know what I say is true.
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4. I'm playing devils advocate just to be a dick.
Nice try stupid newb. NEXT!
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#382932 - 12/24/08 06:57 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 06/22/07
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Loc: Polekatz, Rte 43
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So, Have2cit, you've been around the world and come to the conclusion that "in all cases, they're all whores, always. Truth".
Or, as a "devil's advocate", you just suppose that all women are always whores for arguments sake. Lol.
I think I've figured it out. Your mommy was a huge slut, right? Since boyhood you've been conflicted. You've hated her for being a whore, but also been jealous of the legions of low-lifes that got to fuck her.
See a shrink that specializes in psychoananlysis. Life doesn't have to be that miserable.
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#382934 - 12/24/08 08:09 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 06/22/07
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Loc: Polekatz, Rte 43
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all shrinks specialize in psychoanalysis? ignorant much? (lol) I'm going to quit now. You're obviously uneducated and d-d-d-d-dumb.
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#382935 - 12/24/08 08:19 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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No my shrink specializes in sub-Saharan agriculture, coincidentally he's not much help. Yes all shrinks specialize in the study of human psychological functioning. But you should know because, as Freud said, "Sometimes a douche-bag is just a douche-bag".
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#382936 - 12/24/08 09:47 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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#382938 - 12/24/08 09:54 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 11/24/08
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I hope you get raped again.
I've never been raped asshole.
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#382943 - 12/24/08 01:48 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 11/22/08
Posts: 857
Loc: Northeast US
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Seriously, give her dad some credit. Would you pt your dick anywhere near that fucking atrocity known as Dargamel?
It's not called RAPE when all daddy does is use a Louisville Slugger on her disgusting holes. It's sodomy. Duh.
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#382945 - 12/24/08 02:47 PM
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Porn Jesus
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That's an untrue and really depressing view of one half of humanity.
How is it any different from collectively judging a part of society, like the jury may have done the minute they saw that Mr. Reid was a 'porn performer'?
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I DO NOT support Erik Everhard. Thank you.
I can't help but ask, but what does Everhard have to do with this? Are you talking about the Corina Taylor incident?
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#382946 - 12/24/08 03:00 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Well there is just about as much evidence he committed rape, why can't he be convicted too? There is actually a little more against Everhard, he can be put at the scene of the crime, because they taped it.
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#382947 - 12/24/08 03:06 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/06
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The hateplow? Naw...
Good point though, not my fight, however.
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#382948 - 12/24/08 05:08 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 12/03/08
Posts: 35
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O.K. 2cit, lets see you explain away this Before jack was arrested the victim described in detail one of his tatoos. If he wasnt there, how could she do this? Or are you now going to go with a conspiracty theory of how the cops gave her that info? Get over it 2cit, the guy did it and it was PROVED in court. And any first year psyce major can tell you have serious 'mommy' issues.
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#382949 - 12/24/08 05:18 PM
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Porn Jesus
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They proved it in a crooked court, he was railroaded by Campus police, they were sending a message to Shanes World. They don't want them preying on their college students. and my only mommy issues are with yours, she takes my fist, elbow deep you see.
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#382952 - 12/24/08 07:00 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
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Loc: Portland
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Don't try to do porn East of the Cascades and West of the Rockies.
The last three states to give a positive rating to Bush were: Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah.
Eventually, they too, give Bushie a negative vote...
Given the demographics, no porn should be done in that region.
Because both the Judge AND the Jury will be adverse to such stuff.
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#382953 - 12/25/08 12:52 AM
Re: Jack Venice: LIFE
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 98
Loc: In a Quantum state
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Before jack was arrested the victim described in detail one of his tatoos. If he wasnt there, how could she do this?
He's been in tons of dvds, so maybe that's how? I can describe some of Angelina Jolie's tattoos, but that doesn't mean i fucked her...however cool that would be.
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#382954 - 12/25/08 12:55 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 12/03/08
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Before jack was arrested the victim described in detail one of his tatoos. If he wasnt there, how could she do this?
He's been in tons of dvds, so maybe that's how? I can describe some of Angelina Jolie's tattoos, but that doesn't mean i fucked her...however cool that would be.
ARe you really that dumb. The description was given in her first interview BEFORE jack was arrested. So what youre saying is ...she woke up, turned around and saw his face, and RECOGNIZED him as Jack Venice the porn whore, and then remembered that he had these tattoos. I would say that you guys are really grasping at straws to defend a conviceted rapist. But Jack says he was NOT THERE. So out of the blue, without seeing him(he says he wasnt there) she was able to describe his tattoos BEFORE they even had a suspect. You guys are a laugh riot.
JACK IS A CONVICTED RAPIST. IT WAS PROVED IN COURT BEYOND A RASONABLE DOUBT. NOTHING YOU SAY HERE IS EVEN CLOSE TO BEING REASONABLE. GET OVER IT. THE GUY WAS FOUND GUILY BECAUSE HE IS INDEED GUILTY.
mAYBE O.J. DIT IT. tHAT IS ABOUT AS REASONABLE AS ANYTHING YOU RAPIST SUPPORTERS HAVE SAID HERE.
Or like i said before do you support jack because you have something in common?
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#382955 - 12/25/08 03:02 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 4856
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I stayed out of this for a long while, but this (^^) was just too much.
Jack Venice has a somewhat unique tattoo on his leg. This ridiculous ammo-thing. If someone has seen even just one scene with him, he/she will remember that for ages.
I'm not saying anything about his case or trial, as I don't know anything about it.
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#382956 - 12/25/08 04:09 PM
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Porn Jesus
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have2cit, why is it so hard for you to believe that Jack is guilty? You don't think rape exists? If he confessed, would you then believe he's guilty or say she wanted it?
Why do you take automatically the victims side? Is it your earlier molestation? I think you're the one who's biased here.
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#382957 - 12/25/08 04:15 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Why do you take automatically the victims side? Is it your earlier molestation? I think you're the one who's biased here.
I take the victim's side because someone has to. And no I have never been abused. I don't know why many of you assume I must have been abused to be defending victims and women. Are you a woman? Do you have a mother and grandmother? Have you listened to their stories of what they and other family members and friends had to go through in life working harder than a man and still being paid less and being treated like third-class citizens? Have you ever been out late at night walking home and praying you make it home in one piece and fearing what that noise behind you was?
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#382958 - 12/25/08 04:16 PM
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Porn Jesus
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ARe you really that dumb. The description was given in her first interview BEFORE jack was arrested. So what youre saying is ...she woke up, turned around and saw his face, and RECOGNIZED him as Jack Venice the porn whore, and then remembered that he had these tattoos. I would say that you guys are really grasping at straws to defend a conviceted rapist. But Jack says he was NOT THERE. So out of the blue, without seeing him(he says he wasnt there) she was able to describe his tattoos BEFORE they even had a suspect. You guys are a laugh riot.
JACK IS A CONVICTED RAPIST. IT WAS PROVED IN COURT BEYOND A RASONABLE DOUBT. NOTHING YOU SAY HERE IS EVEN CLOSE TO BEING REASONABLE. GET OVER IT. THE GUY WAS FOUND GUILY BECAUSE HE IS INDEED GUILTY.
mAYBE O.J. DIT IT. tHAT IS ABOUT AS REASONABLE AS ANYTHING YOU RAPIST SUPPORTERS HAVE SAID HERE.
Or like i said before do you support jack because you have something in common?
No, it only proves his story was bullshit. If he was wearing shorts, and this was summertime, she would have seen the tattoo even if he was only laying next to her. You would have thought that they would have found some physical evidence he was actually in that bed. Things that make you go hmmm.....
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#382959 - 12/25/08 04:20 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 03/29/08
Posts: 1991
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wow yeah she really does sound like dara! thats trippy she just yelled at me in another thread for saying "boned"
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#382960 - 12/25/08 04:23 PM
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Porn Jesus
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to darrah
I'm sorry you father carried you around like a six pack, really. Now please quit saddling other with your inadequacies. Most women don't live in your fear charged, doom at every corner world.
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#382961 - 12/25/08 04:24 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 11/24/08
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wow yeah she really does sound like dara! thats trippy she just yelled at me in another thread for saying "boned"
I didn't yell at you Pretty. But saying boned when in fact she was raped is what I was trying to correct. Boned means consenting which it never was between Traci Lords and her stepfather.
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#382962 - 12/25/08 04:53 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 11/22/08
Posts: 857
Loc: Northeast US
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Traci Lords consented to every boning she got, you fucking rube.
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#382963 - 12/25/08 04:58 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Traci Lords consented to every boning she got, you fucking rube.
To her stepfather and the older boy at school too? Yeah, this coming from a possible pedophile considering you pretty much support child rape and rape all together.
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#382964 - 12/25/08 05:00 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 11/22/08
Posts: 857
Loc: Northeast US
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Yes, thats it, I support all of that. I also support you jumping off the tallest bridge your fat white trashy ass can find.
She more than likely seducedd her stepfather, and a BOY at SCHOOL was no doubt of similar age. Teens fuck. It's fun. If you weren't such a disgusting rotten cunt you might know that
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#382965 - 12/25/08 05:53 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 03/29/08
Posts: 1991
Loc: colorado
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just cause she said she was raped doesnt make it so plenty of young girls TRY to seduce their eventual molesters or rapists orwhatever you want to call them its very common and occaisionally they get fucked i doubt it has much todo with why she did porn matter of fact, didnt you just say she said she did porn for money? wow what a concept
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#382968 - 12/25/08 09:50 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 98
Loc: In a Quantum state
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ARe you really that dumb. The description was given in her first interview BEFORE jack was arrested.
Actually I don't give a shit so i didn't read the article. I was just trying to insert some logic into your retarded campaign.
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#382970 - 12/25/08 10:47 PM
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Whoremaster
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These are all moot points. By now Jack has tossed hundreds of salads. If anyone cared, he'd probably qualifiy to be on the waiting list for an anus transplant.
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#382971 - 12/25/08 11:29 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 11/24/08
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just cause she said she was raped doesnt make it so plenty of young girls TRY to seduce their eventual molesters or rapists orwhatever you want to call them its very common and occaisionally they get fucked i doubt it has much todo with why she did porn matter of fact, didnt you just say she said she did porn for money? wow what a concept
Pretty, do you have children, nieces, or nephews?
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#382972 - 12/26/08 05:09 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 4856
Loc: The 4th International
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Drrh concocted: Quote:
I take the victim's side because someone has to.
Someone has to? WTF kind of bullshit is this? You choose to take the victim's side, probably without even asking the victim if she wants you by her side in the first place. I know I wouldn't.
Drrh, you're a hypocrite for trying to gain attention by climbing on your soap box.
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#382973 - 12/26/08 06:28 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
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Loc: Sydney Australia
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That's because OJ is a crazy, arrogant, above-the-law, motherfuckin' multiple murderer.
If my wife took half of everything I worked for and started screwing a waiter half my age I'd slit her fucking throat too.
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