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#381209 - 12/15/08 06:53 PM Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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NEW YORK - The list of investors who say they were duped in one of Wall Street’s biggest Ponzi schemes is growing, snaring some of the world’s biggest banking institutions and hedge funds, the super rich and the famous, pensioners and charities.

The alleged victims who sunk cash into veteran Wall Street money manager Bernard Madoff’s investment pool include a trust tied to real estate magnate Mortimer Zuckerman and a charity of movie director Steven Spielberg. The Wall Street Journal reported that the foundation of Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel also took a hit.

Among the world’s biggest banking institutions, Britain’s HSBC Holdings PLC, Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC and Man Group PLC, Spain’s Grupo Santander SA, France’s BNP Paribas and Japan’s Nomura Holdings all reported that they had fallen victim to Madoff’s alleged Ponzi, or pyramid, scheme.


The 70-year-old Madoff (MAY-doff), well respected in the investment community after serving as chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market, was arrested Thursday in what prosecutors say was a $50 billion scheme to defraud investors. Some investors claim they’ve been wiped out, while others are still likely to come forward.

“There were a lot of very sophisticated people who were duped, and that happens a great deal when you’ve had somebody decide to be unscrupulous,” said Harvey Pitt, a former chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, a regulatory agency in charge of monitoring investment funds like the one Madoff operated.

The extent of the potential damage prompted a leading fund manager in London to lash out at U.S. regulators for failing to detect the fraud earlier.

“I think now it is very difficult for people to invest in things that are meant to be regulated in America, because they haven fallen down in the job,” Nicola Horlick, the manager of Bramdean Alternatives, which has 9 percent of its funds invested in Madoff’s scheme, told the British Broadcasting Corp.

“All through the credit crunch this has been apparent,” Horlick added. “This is the biggest financial scandal, probably, in the history of the markets.”


Madoff’s victims
Dec. 15: NBC’s NBC's Michelle Kosinski meets a couple in Florida that invested in the alleged Bernard Madoff investment swindle.
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Among U.S. investors, the Boston-based Robert I. Lappin Charitable Foundation, a charity that financed trips for Jewish youth to Israel, let go of its staff after revealing that the money for its operations was invested with Madoff.

New Jersey Sen. Frank Lautenberg, one of the wealthiest members of the Senate, entrusted his family’s charitable foundation to Madoff. Lautenberg’s attorney, Michael Griffinger, said they weren’t yet sure the extent of the foundation’s losses, but that the bulk of its investments had been handled by Madoff.

Lautenberg’s foundation handed out more than $765,000 to at least 100 recipients in 2006, according to the most recent listing on Guidestar, which tracks charitable organization filings.

The foundation helps support a variety of religious, educational, civic and arts organizations in New Jersey and elsewhere, and its contributions range from a gift of more than $300,000 to the United Jewish Communities of MetroWest New Jersey to a $2,000 donation to a children’s program at the Hackensack Medical Center.

Reports from Florida to Minnesota included profiles of ordinary investors who gave Madoff their money. Some had been friends with him for decades, others were able to invest because they were a friend of a friend. They told stories of losing everything from $40,000 to an entire nest egg worth well over $1 million.

They join a list of more powerful investors that have come forward, all worried about the extent of their losses. The roster of names include former Philadelphia Eagles owner Norman Braman, New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon and J. Ezra Merkin, the chairman of GMAC Financial Services, among others.

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#381210 - 12/15/08 09:39 PM Re: Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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Sounds like he MADOFF with their money HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA!!! I'm Numbeer One!!11!!!
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#381211 - 12/15/08 10:37 PM Re: Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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This fucking asshole should drop dead. Actually, that would be way too easy. I'm a victim of this man, though not nearly on the scale of some I've heard about. Fred Wilpon, Mets owner, lost boku bucks. I've heard anywhere between 20 mil and 50 mil...
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#381212 - 12/15/08 11:03 PM Re: Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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boku




I'm not trying to be a grammar or translation nazi, but for future reference, it's "beaucoup", french for "a lot" or "much".


if your typo was on purpose, ignore my post as I'm sure most others do.
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#381213 - 12/16/08 07:52 AM Re: Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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boku




I'm not trying to be a grammar or translation nazi, but for future reference, it's "beaucoup", french for "a lot" or "much".





How many times have you had to correct a Full Metal Jacket reference? :mandingobanana:

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#381214 - 12/17/08 02:18 AM Re: Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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Its weird how he was the only one dealing with all the monetary side of the business and that his sons - the senior executives - had no knowledge of what was happening

I guess in a scheme like his you are OK so long as you are a relatively small investor and you get out before it all crashes. Its unbelievable how he could have kept it going for 50 years although I guess this is the first real economic downturn since before world war 2 when there would be more likely to be a rush of people wanting to withdraw their money

It was disgusting how in his last meeting with his sons he was talking about how to distribute his last half a billion dollars or so amongst family and friends before he turned himself in

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#381215 - 12/17/08 06:26 AM Re: Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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This fucking asshole should drop dead. Actually, that would be way too easy. I'm a victim of this man, though not nearly on the scale of some I've heard about. Fred Wilpon, Mets owner, lost boku bucks. I've heard anywhere between 20 mil and 50 mil...


I read Wilpon may have lost 300 mill on this and had already recieved a buyout offer of 6-700 mill for his share in the Mets. The Mets have released some PR stuff about being sound and this not effecting them, but it's hard to imagine it has no effect. At least 'we' got the 2 relievers before the shit hit the fan.
If this world is spinning out of control as bad as it appears to be, I'd at least like to see a stong Mets run this year and not have to hear 'Gary, Keith and Ron' talking about this shit in April.

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#381216 - 12/17/08 10:27 AM Re: Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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Its weird how he was the only one dealing with all the monetary side of the business and that his sons - the senior executives - had no knowledge of what was happening




The firm was apparently divided into two parts, with the sons working on the trading desk / market making side. The fraud was on the client-fund investment side (it wasn't a hedge fund - I'm not sure what is was).

The auditors almost certainly had to be in on it or senile. How many others knew is uncertain at this point but will be closely looked at...

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I guess in a scheme like his you are OK so long as you are a relatively small investor and you get out before it all crashes.




In a situation like this the bankruptcy court may claw back money investors got out over the last year or two on the grounds that was part of the fraud and should go into the pool to repay everyone. Even those who got out "in time" aren't safe from this.

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ts unbelievable how he could have kept it going for 50 years although I guess this is the first real economic downturn since before world war 2 when there would be more likely to be a rush of people wanting to withdraw their money




There have been *several* hard recessions since then. The Thai Bahtulism / Russian default in the late 1990s also triggered an "irrational" flight to cash and he survived that.

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It was disgusting how in his last meeting with his sons he was talking about how to distribute his last half a billion dollars or so amongst family and friends before he turned himself in



His sons promptly turned him in. Right after the meeting they called their lawyer and I can imagine their lawyer's reaction: "were you involved, aware, guilty of anything? Then turn him in Now! Now! Now!"
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#381217 - 12/17/08 10:44 AM Re: Former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market arrested for Ponzi scheme
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His kids, grandkids, and friends can all eat a big bowl of dicks.
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