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Ahem- not exactly sure how this is going to work. Youporn relies on it's dedicated uploaders to keep feeding them with content which in turn gives them an audience. So are you saying buy youporn then kill the uploaders?



No, I'm saying impose a lifetime ban on the original uploader. If they knew unequivocally that the very least consequence of their actions would be a lifetime ban from the site whose content they uploaded, plus maybe the same treatment from a whole slew of other sites once they have been identified and blacklisted, then they may decide it's simply not worth all the kudos from a bunch of faceless, zitty gimps online or wherever and decide not to do it. Then there's the aspect of damages...before a customer can join a site and download content, they should have to agree to a clause whereby if proven to have uploaded content, they pay a fixed fee for each instance of it being illegally downloaded. If 100 people download your uploaded clip off of Rapidshare, and you're liable for, say, $100 for each download, then things can get pretty costly pretty quick.

Personally, I'd be more in favour of making the figure a lot higher, like $1,000 or more, simply because whilst you can identify the primary uploader or leak, positively identifying the secondary uploaders (people who downloaded the original file then re-uploaded it elsewheres) is a lot more difficult. It's the damage to potential future earnings that must be taken into account, because once the content is out there, it's out there for good, and the content owner is no longer the exclusive source of that product, ergo sales and profits will take a hit.

Youporn cannot exist without uploaders...you scare off the uploaders, and Youporn will get pretty stale, pretty fast.


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What exactly does that do but force the community to another source of the desired media? If they can't get it from youporn, they will get it somewhere else.




Honest answer: Hey, as long as they're not stealing from me.

If an industry blacklist is created, they'll soon run out of sites to join, and move on to filesharing other stuff that's not porn. Try to imagine a world wherein an entity like Warner Bros., Disney, Universal, etc. exists solely online and is able to outright ban anyone who has shared their content illegally from ever purchasing their products ever again.

If illegally uploading 'The Dark Knight' meant that you could never buy another Warner Bros. film, record, book, magazine, DC Comic or any related ancilliary merchandise, I think people would tend to think twice about doing it.

What the industry needs is some sort of effective trade organisation that can share the blacklist around, so that uploaders know that if they rip off Vivid, then it won't just be Vivid than bans them but a whole slew of other websites as well. Once the bans start to bite, you're going to get a whole lot of people 'requesting' content off of people who can still get access, and is it really worth losing your access status to appease a bunch of shut-in fucktards? I think not. Sure, this might lead to an upsurge in hacking attempts or password cracking, but you should be vigilant against these anyway.

The industry also needs to organise and clamp down on affiliate programs which sustain these forums or tube sites...Brazzers is a prime example, as is Adult Friend Finder. Stop supporting them or find yourself shut out of everything. How far would Brazzers get if they were told:

'No, you can't use our agency because you're on the blacklist'
'We won't review your products because you're on the blacklist'
No, you can't get a booth at the convention because you're on the blacklist'
'No, we won't run your ad because you're on the blacklist'
'We won't process your transactions because you're on the blacklist'

...not very far, I'd wager. Not that it will ever happen because the industry lacks the required leadership, but you can see how it would work. Alas, most are far too short-sighted to hold their nerve when there is a wad of bills being waved in front of them, and thus inaction and laissez-faire are the order of the day.