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#375237 - 11/18/08 11:19 AM Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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#375238 - 11/18/08 12:31 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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33 more things Panzer will never buy.

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#375239 - 11/18/08 12:38 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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predictions on the outcome of this little stunt?

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#375240 - 11/18/08 12:49 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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Just a hunch, but now that the pirates have hijacked a "Saudi-owned supertanker carrying more than $100 million worth of crude oil," I expect this phenomenon to come to a pretty swift end.

Arms are one thing, but crude has a way of getting people's attention.

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#375241 - 11/18/08 01:28 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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#375242 - 11/18/08 02:47 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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Just out of curiosity, who was supposed to be on the receiving end of this shipment? I mean, it's not as if some random dude can go on the net and order 33 tanks and a bunch of other weapons.

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#375243 - 11/18/08 02:59 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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Re the Saudi tanker.

Can someone please tell me why a ship carrying 100m dollars worth of cargo through pirate infested waters, is only guarded by 6 Filipino deckhands wielding mops and hoses.

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#375244 - 11/18/08 03:10 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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Standard practice on all sea-going vessels: as small a crew as possible. The crude carrier had a staff of 25 (I think), which is pretty normal for its size. Why? People cost money.
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#375245 - 11/18/08 03:26 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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From Jim's NYT link:

"Maritime experts recently have noticed a new development in the gulf — the pirates’ use of “mother ships,” large oceangoing trawlers carrying fleets of speedboats which are then deployed when a new prize is encountered.

“They launch these boats and they’re like wild dogs,” said Mr. Choong in Kuala Lumpur. “They attack the ship from the port, from starboard, from all points, shooting, scaring the captain, firing RPGs and forcing the ship to stop.”

There are some countermeasures the merchant ships can use when approaching pirates are spotted. Fire-retardant foam or huge blasts of water can be sprayed from the ship to douse the would-be hijackers."


LOL - guys come at you in a raft with AK's and RPG's and you're going to spray them with water? Time to step up those countermeasures. Reminds me of a rent-a-cop responding to a call armed only with a walkie-talkie and jelly donut.

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#375246 - 11/18/08 06:08 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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Lol...

Think Ray Lewis dirt poor and angry, backed by a well armed sea-going armada of the most chromosomally challenged incest-inflicted, BlackHawk Down inspired, nogs with an agenda. I love this story, just sayin.

I hope they find their way through the Great Lakes and take Detroit hostage.
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#375247 - 11/18/08 06:55 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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Gee and I thought Somali people were a civilized and respectable bunch.
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#375248 - 11/19/08 12:46 AM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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Re the Saudi tanker.

Can someone please tell me why a ship carrying 100m dollars worth of cargo through pirate infested waters, is only guarded by 6 Filipino deckhands wielding mops and hoses.



It was 450 miles off shore, *far* beyond the range of any attack boat. Except the ones carried on ocean-going fishing boats.
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#375249 - 11/19/08 01:01 AM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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33 more things Panzer will never buy.



The pirates have no way to offload those tanks. There's probably not a single crane in all of Somalia that can lift them. And if the Somalis get one, the Navy or Air Force will use a bomb to make sure it doesn't lift anything any more.

The munitions are a bigger concern. However that ship is in fact literally surrounded and I expect that any ship-to-shore attempts to be greeted by 5" naval shells. And if they try to move the ship a 5" shell through the steering would put an end to that too.

The complication here is that the tanks are an illegal arms shipment, labeled for Kenya but actually for Sudan. The Kenyans are definitely in on it but it's not certain whether the Russians, Georgians, or both, are in on it too. Apparently they don't want the US, British or French to board and put an end to it ... and talk to the crew and inspect the paperwork.
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#375250 - 11/19/08 02:16 AM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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Standard practice on all sea-going vessels: as small a crew as possible. The crude carrier had a staff of 25 (I think), which is pretty normal for its size. Why? People cost money.




You need to turn that frown upside down, because from where I'm sitting, this cloud most definitely has a silver lining, as I will explain...

Rather than paying for extra security, why not get the security to pay you? Yes, I'm talking about a one-of-a-kind, once-in-a-lifetime adventure holiday for the most rugged manly men there are out there. Just imagine, your very own seaborne Somalian Safari...think of all the ripe-for-embellishment tales you'll have of repelling Somali boarders with only a range of high powered assault weaponry to protect you. Yessir, we're talking genuine Soldier Of Fortune cover story material here! Sun, sea, and shooting the shit out of Somalians...what could be better than that?


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#375251 - 11/19/08 08:48 AM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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#375252 - 11/19/08 08:36 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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#375253 - 11/19/08 09:12 PM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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ABCNEWS: U.S. Navy Not Going To Protect Pirated Ships

Apparently there are a lot more politics at play when it comes to various governments and their boats in various bodies of water - who knew? To think, that so far shipping companies have just been paying ransoms because it was a fraction of the value of and on their ships - yet now they're surprised that frequency of hijacks has risen and the amounts of money being demanded has increased exponentially.

Haven't they ever heard of "you don't negotiate with terrorists?" I think this is what happens.

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#375254 - 11/22/08 11:47 AM Re: Russian tanks captured by Somali pirates!
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It seems Somali pirates have now released the saudi oil tanker captured in september - way to go paying that ransom, and encouraging the cycle to continue, just like feeding stray cats.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/11/22/pirates.somalia.ship.released.ap/index.html

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#375255 - 01/09/09 01:09 PM Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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Pirates Free Tanker After Ransom

By MOHAMMED IBRAHIM and GRAHAM BOWLEY
Published: January 9, 2009

MOGADISHU, Somalia — A Saudi-owned supertanker held by pirates off the coast of Somalia for two months has been released for a ransom of $3 million, according to one of the pirates and residents of Xarardheere, a pirate town on the Somali coast near where the tanker was being held.

The supertanker, about the length of an American Nimitz class aircraft carrier, was the largest ship known to have been seized by pirates, and it was fully loaded with two million barrels of oil.

The pirates were due to leave the ship after the money, paid by the ship’s owners, was received by the pirates on Friday, according to the pirates and residents, who later said that the ship had moved away from the coast where it had been anchored since November.

News agencies had reported that the pirates had originally asked for $25 million in ransom for the fully-laden oil tanker, known as the Sirius Star, but ”they have agreed on $3 million and the pirates will disembark tonight,” a pirate in Xarardheere who gave his name as Jama said.

He said he had spoken to the pirates who had gone to the ship to receive the ransom payment. The money had been paid in Kenya and reached the Somali pirates on a boat from Mombasa, Kenya, the pirates said.

The International Maritime Bureau in London, a clearinghouse for piracy information and maritime-safety issues, said it could not yet confirm that the pirates had released the tanker.

“We have not got confirmation of the release of this vessel,” a spokesman for the organization, Cyrus Mody, said. “The information that we have from the owner is that the vessel is not yet released.” The owner, Vela International Ltd., could not be immediately reached for comment.

But a regional maritime group confirmed the release. Andrew Mwangura, of the East African Seafarers Assistance program, based in the Kenyan port of Mombasa, was quoted by Reuters as saying: “The last batch of gunmen have disembarked from the Sirius Star. She is now steaming out to safe waters.”

The Sirius Star was seized in November by the group of armed pirates about 420 nautical miles off the coast of Somalia, in seas where pirates have struck with increasing audacity in recent months, hijacking other vessels, including a Ukrainian freighter laden with armaments. That vessel, the Faina, which was carrying 32 armored tanks and other heavy weapons, is still being held in the region.

Mr. Mody of the maritime bureau in London said there were currently 15 vessels being held by pirates off the coast of Somalia, involving 290 crew members.

Amid the increasingly frequent attacks, China said last month it would send naval ships to the Gulf of Aden to help in the fight against piracy there, the first modern deployment of Chinese warships outside the Pacific. And on Thursday, the United States Navy said that a new international naval force under American command would begin patrols to confront Somali pirates in the Horn of Africa.

As for the supertanker, Abdi Ahmed, a Xarardheere resident said, “the big fishes left Xarardheere on Thursday afternoon to the Sirius Star ship to get the ransom money and to set free the ship.”

The pirate who identified himself as Jama said he was waiting for his share of the ransom from his cohorts.

“When the pirates receive the money, they will divide in shares on the spot, so that they will disembark tonight from the ship with everyone’s share in pocket,” he said.


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#375256 - 01/09/09 01:13 PM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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Has anyone offered to blow the pirates up on their way home?

I don't get how this scheme works.

EDIT: Or rather I don't understand how the pirates could be paid a ransom and still feel safe about leaving the ship. How could a ransom payment be arranged in a way that would ensure the safety of the pirates who are to be riding in boats away from the ship?


Edited by conquistador (01/09/09 01:22 PM)
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#375257 - 01/09/09 04:28 PM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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I think safety in Somalia is a relative concept. Like clean and sober at the Wankus crib.
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#375258 - 01/10/09 10:14 AM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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They didn't get very far:

5 Somali Pirates Drown With Ransom

MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) -- Five of the Somali pirates who released a hijacked oil-laden Saudi supertanker drowned with their share of a reported $3 million ransom after their small boat capsized, a pirate and a relative of one of the dead men said Saturday.

Pirate Daud Nure said the boat with eight people on board overturned in a storm after dozens of pirates left the Sirius Star following a two-month standoff in the Gulf of Aden that ended Friday.

He said five people died and three people reached shore after swimming for several hours. Daud Nure was not part of the pirate operation but knew those involved.

Abukar Haji, the uncle of one of the dead men, said the deaths were an accident.

''The boat the pirates were traveling in capsized because it was running at high speed because the pirates were afraid of an attack from the warships patrolling around,'' he said.

''There has been human and monetary loss but what makes us feel sad is that we don't still have the dead bodies of our relatives. Four are still missing and one washed up on the shore.''

Saudi Arabian oil minister Ali Naimi said Saturday that the crew of the Sirius Star was safe and that the tanker had left Somali territorial waters and was on its way home...


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#375259 - 01/10/09 10:32 AM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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after their small boat capsized,




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#375260 - 01/10/09 10:57 AM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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I am sad that there was no explosion involved in this story.
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#375261 - 01/10/09 12:34 PM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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#375262 - 01/10/09 12:39 PM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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I have that game...

@BDM: I am going to make an unfair assumption about you right now because of your age. I am guessing you are not up on PC gaming.

But since you do have a computer you might have some fun playing a game called "Crysis" (the game that video is from).
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#375263 - 01/10/09 02:42 PM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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#375264 - 01/10/09 03:38 PM Re: Saudis Cave, Pay $3 Mil to Somali Pirates
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The words, Russian, tanks, capture and pirates threw me off, I thought this post was originaly posted by someone else... Sorry, carry on...
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