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typical liberal talking point diversion. obama approached joe the plumber not the other way around. I don't give a fuck about jtp or who he is or his background, history, tax status, unemployment, etc. he's not running for pres. obama is. the focus should be on obama's answer to the question "spreading the wealth around" not jtp.





You want to make this a liberal/conservative thing. For me, it isn't. It's just pure comedy.



McCain saying he's going to bring an unlicensed plumber, tax-beat to Washington with him [as he did the other day], is like the signing group becoming Pappy's "braintrust" in 'O Brother Where Are Thou'. Pure Comedy.




Face it. The reason Sam the Icon became an issue is that McCain made him his archetype not because Obama talked to him.

Face it. No one beside the McCain campaign noticed him until after the debate where McCain could even get his name right.

Face it. McCain picked the guy as his poster boy and he didn't hold up to the scrutiny.

Face it. Another bad pick by McCain's campaign staff.


I'm no leftist loyalist. Obama doesn't thrill me. But, I've got to pick between the two, and in the most important race of his life, McCain is fucking up left and right. Sam the Icon is just another example.

True, I was leaning Obama once it was clear who the candidates were. But, that's McCain's fault. He embraced the Christian Right. The possiblity of Der Fuhrer Giuliani as AG frightened me. I took choosing 'Token' Palin and as further kowtowing to the Christian Chrazies. I had no idea she would prove incompetent as well.

McCain lost me. I gave him money in 2000. The only other Presidential candidates I've ever given money to was Clinton in 1992 and Gore in 2000 [against W].

And, it's not only me McCain's lost ... look at the EPIC defections from the moderates in his own party. Amazing!




But, this "Joe the Plumber" stuff just makes me laugh!!

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