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#371553 - 10/29/08 11:24 PM
Christian- What about LA Direct and Jack?
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Registered: 05/16/07
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Christian Brings Up a Good Point: Will Companies Have to Pull Jack Venice Scenes? Via Adult FYI, as Christian Sings the Blues: Some Quotes: Quote:
Jack Venice is a male performer who entered the business about 3 years ago under contract with Extreme Associates, not long after he left the military. He is a fellow Texan like myself, and after his contract finished, he quickly joined the male performer stable at LA Direct Models.
What happened next is a tragedy for Jack, for our business, and most importantly for the girl in question.
In the year that Jack was free on bond, he still performed in some scenes for various companies. My question is whether or not those companies pull those scenes. If a girl sued a company that used him knowing he was an accused rapist, can the girl he worked with sue that company for having her work with a convicted rapist?
As recently as two weeks ago LA Direct Models (who you and Jack were both repped by) still had Jack listed on their site under male models...and had his availability listed until September 27th. When I checked their site today he was not listed under the main page, but a little internet sleuthing brought his page up:
http://www.ladirectmodels.com/view.php?id=147&gender=male
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...
Why not ask whether LA Direct can possibly be legally linked ,considering, I imagine, they still collected a fee when they got him work?
I'm wondering if you had any insight into why they (or Derek I guess) continued to keep Jack on their roster, especially considering all the rumors that have swirled around LA Direct and some sort of FBI attention. I really doubt having an actor soon to be convicted or rape still working that recently was a good decision.
Wondering. 
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#371554 - 10/30/08 12:30 AM
Re: Christian- What about LA Direct and Jack?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/30/07
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What possible damages would a PW claim to have suffered simply by virtue of having worked with the guy BEFORE he was convicted?
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#371555 - 10/30/08 12:53 AM
Re: Christian- What about LA Direct and Jack?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
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I cannot image any reason for pulling releases.
It's always possible to sue someone, but I can't see any way to mitigate liability by pulling a scene. I don't think anyone is suggesting that any released content is related to any criminal activity of his.
He's not the first male performer with a criminal record...
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#371556 - 10/30/08 01:30 AM
Re: Christian- What about LA Direct and Jack?
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He is the first male performer where his "gonzo" porn acting just way too closely reflected the real crime. I think it was the stupidest move for companies in the last year to knowingly releases scenes with him in them. Why not wait eight months and see what happens? Is a $1500 scene that much to risk possible litigation? I don't even know where to start...its just a weird legal grey area with California Law, Washington Law, all sorts of weird legislation when it comes to sex offenders (which Jack is, and god knows if that becomes retroactive back to the date of the rape), all sorts of weird OSHA rules when it comes to workplace safety (knowingly employing someone accused of rape on a sex set). Its not as if Jack's situation was some big fucking secret. Hell, or the victim could sue anyone from LA Direct to any film released with him in the last year and argue that the companies tried to profit from his name and publicity at her expense. I think that Jacks conviction will be the first of many dominoes to fall over this. Are companies going to try and still rehire him once he gets out of prison?  
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#371561 - 10/30/08 02:38 PM
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cx three is an idiot .. no one gonna pull anything.
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#371562 - 10/30/08 02:55 PM
Re: Christian- What about LA Direct and Jack?
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I think that Jacks conviction will be the first of many dominoes to fall over this.
I think Eisenhower spins in his grave every time his "falling domino principle" gets abused in this fashion.
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#371563 - 10/30/08 03:54 PM
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Porn Jesus
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LA Direct had him up on the site for a few years. I think they were being loyal to a good male performer who brought Derek some of his most popular girls. Also Jack wasn't convicted of anything at that point, so why take away the man's right to earn a living?
mafia members are loyal too...
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#371565 - 10/30/08 06:17 PM
Re: Christian- What about LA Direct and Jack?
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 05/16/07
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Loc: Sun Diego
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Steve, I am having a hard time figuring out what legal claim a PW would have in order to sue to prevent a scene with Jackfrom being released.
Probably nothing to block a scene, but easily there's a ton of statues for a worker to sue a company for after the fact...unsafe work environment, emotional damage, job reputation, all sorts of weird laws when it comes to workers and sex offender legislation. You really think some shittily composed model release would exempt a porn company? Still, an actress' case would pale in comparison to the suits the victim could bring against companies who tried to profit from Jack's name after his crime, especially those companies with new releases from the last year.
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LA Direct had him up on the site for a few years. I think they were being loyal to a good male performer who brought Derek some of his most popular girls.
Glad to know the ability to get new porn stars trumps being accused of rape in a case of national exposure at LA Direct. 
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Also Jack wasn't convicted of anything at that point, so why take away the man's right to earn a living?
"Innocent before proven guilty" may be how the courts work, but its absolutely the stupidest thing to follow in the world of business.
He waived his option for a speedy trial. He asked for a delay three different times (wasn't this trial supposed to start in April?). And during those delays he continued to work and make money for Derek and LA Direct. Its not like he stopped to face the music, he continued to make money as long as he possibly could and delay his imprisonment. I'm totally shocked the judge who granted him bail didn't set preconditions on his work choices prior to the trial.
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I got news for you Stevie, there are plenty of performers in this business with criminal records. I know of a male performer who was in jail for murder AND assaulting his pregnant girlfriend. That's two different sentences. And no one knows and no one says boo about it.
Skeeter? Or is it Donny Long? Chico Wang? Or Brian Surewood...or? 
The industry is full of criminals but this case is very different. Jack was one of the top male performers, had made a number of national TV appearances to promote his career and movies prior to his little rape fest, his crime fit his porn "character", and this story was on every major news network for a number of days. It wasn't some big secret. Shelley Lubben's picked up on it for quite some time; you don't think something like this will be one of the first things she mentions next time she's testifying before the California legislature?
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#371568 - 11/01/08 07:09 PM
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It's porn who the fuck cares?
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