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#368103 - 10/16/08 02:27 PM
Re: How MCain is REALLY going to win
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Misconceptions of Obama fuel Republican campaign
Right. Misconceptions. For Example:
--It's a misconception that Obama launched his political career in the home of a terrorist. Bombing US Defense Installations is the "New Patriotism."
--It's a misconception that Obama is a Marxist. He just wants to "Redistribute the Wealth."
--It's a misconception that Obama stole the Democratic nomination. He merely paid ACORN $800,000 to do it for him.
--It's a misconception that Obama was an avid follower of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church of intolerance and hate. Most Sundays, he was asleep in his pew until Michelle gave him the elbow.
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#368105 - 10/16/08 02:36 PM
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I'm just happy they stopped calling them "distractions."
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#368106 - 10/16/08 04:55 PM
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Registered: 09/19/05
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McCain and Palin's have limited options with respect to stopping Obama from winning, and their only shot may be to whip up the racists and retards and for the emergence of another James Earl Ray.
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#368107 - 10/16/08 05:22 PM
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McCain and Palin's have limited options with respect to stopping Obama from winning, and their only shot may be to whip up the racists and retards and for the emergence of another James Earl Ray.
So, let me get this straight: Criticizing "The Chosen One" is not only "racist," but an incitement to assassination?
"Crasha-Banga-Booma"
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#368108 - 10/16/08 05:49 PM
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I have seen enough of Mrs. Palin on the stump, and various underling goons acting on behalf of the McCain/Palin ticket, to know that she is trying to whip hatred against Senator Obama. In a sense one can't blame them, since their nominee, Old Man Yells at Clouds, fucked up all three of his joint appearances with Senator Obama. Back in 2000 I respected John McCain and would have been proud to vote for him. Now I just wish he would go away, and spend the rest of his life spending Cindy's money to help all of those poor children like Trig Palin, who were born with autism. Charles De Gaulle was so right when he said that old age is a shipwreck on the voyage of life.
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#368109 - 10/16/08 05:57 PM
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Gee.
Trying to turn people against their opponent.
In the middle of an election.
How awful.
How dreadful.
How Rovian.
It's a good thing we have Obama The Messiah to fix this. From now on, there will be no more pesky elections. Just coronations.
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#368112 - 10/16/08 06:44 PM
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Jimbo is a smart guy, which is why I can't understand his dislike for Obama. Some of Obama's supporters can be naive, but the events of the past eight years ought to convince intelligent Americans that we need a major change in direction. I really believe the the Sage of Baltimore would vote for Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin.
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#368113 - 10/16/08 06:45 PM
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Jimbo, you're not making any sense.
I'll type slower then.
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you are defending obvious racists
Criticism of Obama is inherently racist? That's akin to those Republicans who believe criticism of Bush is inherently un-american.
THAT'S guzzling the kool-aid.
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...and people who are obviously wrong on the facts.
Obviously wrong on the facts?
Did Barack Obama launch his first political run from Bill Ayers' living room, or did he not?
Did the Obama campaign give hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN, or did it not?
Did ACORN's political wing endorse Barack Obama, or did it not?
Did ACORN workers submit thousands of fraudulent voter registrations, or did it not?
Did Louis Farrakhan refer to Barack Obama as the Messiah or did he not?
By the way, Chuck: What's an officially non-partisan group like ACORN doing with a political wing in the first place?
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#368114 - 10/16/08 06:49 PM
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Jimbo is a smart guy, which is why I can't understand his dislike for Obama... I really believe the the Sage of Baltimore would vote for Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin.
I detest all messianic hucksters, irrespective of party or denomination. And clearly, that's what we have here. Old Henry Louis would agree on this one. Remember his position on going broke betting on the intelligence of the American people?
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#368115 - 10/16/08 06:56 PM
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Honestly the messianic thing is just a Republican Paintjob. Not one of the many many people I know planning to vote for Obama see him as messianic. This year Issues > Character Attacks and it is totally tearing the Republican party asunder. HAHAHA
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#368117 - 10/16/08 07:08 PM
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Jim, the original post contained a video of folks making racist and factually wrong comments about Obama. The folks in that video are indefensible. But you attempt to defend them.
The point is, the right wing is trying to whip up the echo chamber with bullshit again. About two weeks out, we will start to see the push polls, that's what my South Carolina reference was about.
I don't give a fuck what Farrakhan says, and neither does Obama. I say Tris Speaker was the greatest centerfielder in baseball history, does that diminish him because I promote him highly?
In last night's debate, Obama made swift work of the bullshit allegations, and kicked McCain's ass on issues, while McCain is trying this character assassination crap. It won't work this time. And Obama and the Democrats will have a mandate, the wing nuts can't take it away with some weak crap about voter registration workers being dishonest. Did you raise as much hell about Blackwell here in Ohio in 2004?
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#368121 - 10/16/08 07:26 PM
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the right wing is trying to whip up the echo chamber with bullshit again.
And Obama has never run a negative or mislading ad? Never?
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I don't give a fuck what Farrakhan says, and neither does Obama.
Then how do you explain the iconography put out on Obama's behalf?
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I say Tris Speaker was the greatest centerfielder in baseball history, does that diminish him because I promote him highly?
No one ever claimed Tris Speaker was going to fix all the world's problems.
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In last night's debate, Obama made swift work of the bullshit allegations, and kicked McCain's ass on issues,
Obama ducked a LOT of issues, like how he intends to pay for all the "change" he promises. McCain ducked issues as well, to be sure. But saying he "kicked McCain's ass" flies in the face of reality.
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while McCain is trying this character assassination crap.
So pointing out the facts, ones you can't or won't deny, is now"character assassination." Just as criticizing a political candidate on his record is "racist?"
I have to get a hold of this Brave New Dictionary you're using.
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#368122 - 10/16/08 07:31 PM
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I believe that was McCain's reaction after hearing Rev. Wright's "God Damn America" sermon.
In any event, it doesn't alter or diminish the messianic iconography with which Obama and his acolytes have saturated the media.
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#368123 - 10/16/08 07:45 PM
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the right wing is trying to whip up the echo chamber with bullshit again.
And Obama has never run a negative or mislading ad? Never?
Us on the left aren't spreading lies about McCain.
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I don't give a fuck what Farrakhan says, and neither does Obama.
Then how do you explain the iconography put out on Obama's behalf?
On Obama's behalf! Not by Obama. Why does it rile you so much that Obama has some fanatical supporters?
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I say Tris Speaker was the greatest centerfielder in baseball history, does that diminish him because I promote him highly?
No one ever claimed Tris Speaker was going to fix all the world's problems.
Still the same principle, Spoke or Jesus or whoever.
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In last night's debate, Obama made swift work of the bullshit allegations, and kicked McCain's ass on issues,
Obama ducked a LOT of issues, like how he intends to pay for all the "change" he promises. McCain ducked issues as well, to be sure. But saying he "kicked McCain's ass" flies in the face of reality.
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while McCain is trying this character assassination crap.
So pointing out the facts, ones you can't or won't deny, is now"character assassination." Just as criticizing a political candidate on his record is "racist?"
I have to get a hold of this Brave New Dictionary you're using.
I said the folks in the original poster's video were racist, they obviously are. And many of them are very obviously wrong on facts. And too ill-informed to speak to anyone's record. Look at the video, man, Al Jazeera (sp?) caught Ohio at its worst, to be sure.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#368125 - 10/16/08 07:53 PM
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And Obama has never run a negative or mislading ad? Never?
Us on the left aren't spreading lies about McCain.
Let's run this one again:
Dubious Claims in Obama’s Ads Against McCain
ROANOKE, Va. — Two weeks ago, Senator Barack Obama’s presidential campaign gleefully publicized a spate of news reports about misleading and untruthful statements in the advertisements of his rival, Senator John McCain. Asked by a voter in New Hampshire if he would respond in kind, Mr. Obama said, “I just have a different philosophy, I’m going to respond with the truth,” adding, “I’m not going to start making up lies about John McCain.”
Yet as Mr. McCain’s misleading advertisements became fodder on shows like “The View” and “Saturday Night Live,” Mr. Obama began his own run of advertisements on radio and television that have matched the dubious nature of Mr. McCain’s more questionable spots.
A radio advertisement running in Wisconsin and other contested states misleadingly reports that Mr. McCain “has stood in the way of” federal financing for stem cell research; Mr. McCain did once oppose such federally supported research but broke with President Bush to consistently support it starting in 2001...
A commercial running here on Thursday morning highlighting Mr. McCain’s votes against incentives for alternative energy misleadingly asserts he supports tax breaks for “one source of energy: oil companies.” Mr. McCain’s proposed corporate tax break would cover all companies, including those developing new sources of power.
A new television advertisement playing in areas with high concentrations of elderly voters and emphasizing Mr. McCain’s support for President Bush’s failed plan for private Social Security accounts misleadingly implies Mr. McCain supported “cutting benefits in half” — an analysis of Mr. Bush’s plan that would have applied to upper-income Americans retiring in the year 2075.
A much criticized Spanish-language television advertisement wrongly links the views of Mr. McCain, who was a champion of the sweeping immigration overhaul pushed by Mr. Bush, to those of Rush Limbaugh, a harsh critic of the approach, and, frequently, of Mr. McCain.
The advertisement implies Mr. Limbaugh is one of Mr. McCain’s “Republican friends,” and quotes Mr. Limbaugh as calling Mexicans “stupid and unqualified.” Mr. Limbaugh has written that his quotes were taken out of context and that he was mocking the views of others.
In all, Mr. Obama has released at least five commercials that have been criticized as misleading or untruthful against Mr. McCain’s positions in the past two weeks. Mr. Obama drew complaints from many of the independent fact-checking groups and editorial writers who just two weeks ago were criticizing Mr. McCain for producing a large share of this year’s untruthful spots (“Pants on Fire,” the fact-checking Web site PolitiFact.com wrote of Mr. Obama’s advertisement invoking Mr. Limbaugh; “False!” FactCheck.org said of his commercial on Social Security.)
Some Democrats expressed concern that Mr. Obama, in stretching the truth... was putting at risk the “above politics” persona he has tried to cultivate.
“I do think there is a risk,” said Joe Trippi, a longtime Democratic strategist. “The risk is that they seem to be different, that the appeal for Obama is ‘it’s not the same old politics...’ ”
Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for Mr. McCain, said, “It’s bad enough that Barack Obama fictionalizes his own record, but it is a disgrace that he lies about John McCain’s.”
The disputed spots from Mr. Obama coincide with a significantly increased advertising push by his campaign and the Democratic National Committee that has taken a decidedly negative tone in the past few weeks, perhaps reflecting the natural progression of a tight campaign. CMAG, a group that tracks political advertising, said Thursday that the $10 million Mr. Obama had spent over the previous week on advertisements represented a nearly $4 million increase from the week before.
The increased advertising push has been accompanied by a campaign by the Democratic National Committee featuring an emotional advertisement shown on African-American-oriented programs meant to encourage blacks to register to vote. It opens with violent images from the civil rights era of black marchers being attacked with power hoses and the words, “Thousands died so you could vote,” the advertisement states. The advertisement was not publicly announced by the party.
Some of the advertisements that have drawn criticism were similarly started without fanfare. Mr. Obama’s campaign did not announce it was running its new radio spot that said Mr. McCain “has stood in the way, he’s opposed stem cell research.” That ad concluded, “John McCain doesn’t understand that medical research benefiting millions shouldn’t be held hostage by the political views of a few.”
The radio advertisement correctly asserts that Mr. McCain’s running mate, Ms. Palin, is against the use of federal funds for stem cell research. But since 2001, Mr. McCain has consistently supported the financing. Last year, he voted for the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act, which Mr. Bush vetoed, and in 2004 signed a letter to the president with 57 other senators, urging him to change his policy on stem cell research.
The campaign has said Ms. Palin will defer to Mr. McCain on the matter should they win the White House...
The stem cell advertisement hit the airwaves around the same time Mr. Obama released his Spanish-language commercial about Mr. Limbaugh. Bill Adair, the editor of PolitiFact, the fact-checking Web site of The St. Petersburg Times and Congressional Quarterly, said that until last week, the McCain campaign was more frequently guilty of including the most egregious falsehoods in its advertisements.
But the advertisement with Mr. Limbaugh, he said, prompted PolitiFact to deliver its worst rating, “Pants on Fire,” to Mr. Obama for the first time (as opposed to six times for Mr. McCain). The “Pants on Fire” rating is defined as, “not just false, but ridiculously false,” Mr. Adair said.
“I think the Obama campaign in the last two weeks has been very aggressive with its advertising,” Mr. Adair said. “And ads like the stem cell ad and the Spanish-language ad are just not accurate.”
Mr. Obama has been previously challenged over falsehoods or misleading statements in his advertisements. For instance, the campaign has frequently been criticized for implying that Mr. McCain has singled out “big oil” as the sole recipient of his broad, corporate tax cut. Mr. Obama does it again in his latest spot, in which the announcer says he “does support tax breaks for one source of energy: Oil Companies.”
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#368127 - 10/16/08 08:04 PM
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On Obama's behalf! Not by Obama.
You might want to look at that again:
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Why does it rile you so much that Obama has some fanatical supporters?
Asks the guy who keeps harping on a handful of yahoos at a Palin rally?
The difference, Chuck, is that the yahoos at the rally aren't systematically churning out messianic propaganda. Obama is.
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#368128 - 10/16/08 08:07 PM
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You are trying to compare this weak drivel to the blatant racism in the video?
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
The New York Times is "weak drivel?"
Really?
I'll have to remember that.
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#368130 - 10/16/08 08:08 PM
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This ain't fair, I gotta type, "-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy," every time. I can't keep up.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
Why don't you just make it your sig?
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#368132 - 10/17/08 12:47 PM
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The criticisms from the left about how some McCain supporters are treating Obama make some good points. Those points would carry a lot more weight if the people making them weren't the same ones that accused Palin of faking her own pregnancy about five minutes after McCain selected her. Where was all of the outrage about how the people are not treating the candidates with respect then?
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#368133 - 10/17/08 02:25 PM
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Did someone say motivational poster?
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#368135 - 10/17/08 02:49 PM
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#368136 - 10/17/08 03:06 PM
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#368139 - 10/17/08 03:54 PM
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McCain isn't as bad, but still more religious than Obama...
How you figure that one?
He read it on Kos. It must be true.
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#368141 - 10/17/08 03:58 PM
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AlexPanzer will not lose his virginity or move out of his mother's basement because he is a fat, cheap, burger-flipping slob with torture/enema fetishes.
FIXED.
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#368143 - 10/17/08 06:38 PM
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McCain isn't as bad, but still more religious than Obama...
How you figure that one?
He read it on Kos. It must be true.
He believes that the country was founded on Christianity. You can look up the interview on youtube, etc. So far, I have not found a similar quote by Obama. But, if he said something similar, it would be just as disappointing.
On a side note, what is Kos?
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#368145 - 10/17/08 06:59 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Neither form of their belief is very promising, but I fear that if McCain were to get into office he would try to institute more of his beliefs into the government (like roe v. wade, etc). Obviously, Obama is religious as well, but seems to understand the separation between church and state a little better. Keep this thread going! I love the pics from both sides. This is awesome. Ideas for future pics: He had a class rank of 894 out of 899 students at Annapolis. Priceless. He thought Spain was part of latin america. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1842156,00.html 5 plane crashes!, Keating Five, etc. I love this thread
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#368149 - 10/17/08 08:08 PM
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Do you even know what the word means? You're like Ri*n Nix: As soon as Brandon taught him the word "generic," he used it in every thread without regard to it's relevance.
I've been pretty consistent in refuting your dogma.
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#368150 - 10/17/08 09:11 PM
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Perhaps "increasingly shrill" would have been a better word choice?
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