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#368152 - 10/18/08 08:06 AM
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"increasingly shrill"
Says the author of this gem?
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#368153 - 10/18/08 08:06 AM
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Getting back to the issues:
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You are trying to compare this weak drivel to the blatant racism in the video?
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
Let's talk about "blatant racism"
Who's Playing the Race Card?
Let me get this straight. A couple of agitated yahoos in a rally of thousands yell something offensive and incendiary, and John McCain and Sarah Palin are not just guilty by association -- with total strangers, mind you -- but worse: guilty according to the New York Times of "race-baiting and xenophobia."
But should you bring up Barack Obama's real associations -- 20 years with Jeremiah Wright, working on two foundations and distributing money with William Ayers, citing the raving Michael Pfleger as one who helps him keep his moral compass (Chicago Sun-Times, April 2004) and the long-standing relationship with the left-wing vote-fraud specialist ACORN -- you have crossed the line into illegitimate guilt by association. Moreover, it is tinged with racism.
The fact that, when John McCain actually heard one of those nasty things said about Obama, he incurred the boos of his own crowd by insisting that Obama is "a decent person . . . that you do not have to be scared [of] as president" makes no difference. It surely did not stop John Lewis from comparing McCain to George Wallace.
The search for McCain's racial offenses is untiring and often unhinged. Remember McCain's Berlin/celebrity ad that showed a shot of Paris Hilton? An appalling attempt to exploit white hostility at the idea of black men "becoming sexually involved with white women," fulminated New York Times columnist Bob Herbert. He took to TV to denounce McCain's exhumation of that most vile prejudice, pointing out McCain's gratuitous insertion in the ad of "two phallic symbols," the Washington Monument and the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
Except that Herbert was entirely delusional. There was no Washington Monument. There was no Leaning Tower. Just photographs seen in every newspaper in the world of Barack Obama's Berlin rally in the setting he himself had chosen, Berlin's Victory Column.
Herbert is not the only fevered one. On Tuesday night, Rachel Maddow of MSNBC and Jonathan Alter of Newsweek fell over themselves agreeing that the "political salience" of the Republican attack on ACORN is, yes, its unstated appeal to racial prejudice.
This about an organization that is being accused of voter registration fraud in about a dozen states. In Nevada, the investigating secretary of state is a Democrat. Is he playing the race card, too?
What makes the charges against McCain especially revolting is that he has been scrupulous in eschewing the race card. He has gone far beyond what is right and necessary, refusing even to make an issue of Obama's deep, self-declared connection with the race-baiting Rev. Wright.
In the name of racial rectitude, McCain has denied himself the use of that perfectly legitimate issue. It is simply Orwellian for him to be now so widely vilified as a stoker of racism. What makes it doubly Orwellian is that these charges are being made on behalf of the one presidential candidate who has repeatedly, and indeed quite brilliantly, deployed the race card.
How brilliantly? The reason Bill Clinton is sulking in his tent is because he feels that Obama surrogates succeeded in painting him as a racist. Clinton has many sins, but from his student days to his post-presidency, his commitment and sincerity in advancing the cause of African Americans have been undeniable. If the man Toni Morrison called the first black president can be turned into a closet racist, then anyone can.
And Obama has shown no hesitation in doing so to McCain. Weeks ago, in Springfield, Mo., and elsewhere, he warned darkly that George Bush and John McCain were going to try to frighten you by saying that, among other scary things, Obama has "a funny name" and "doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills."
McCain has never said that, nor anything like that. When asked at the time to produce one instance of McCain deploying race, the Obama campaign could not. Yet here was Obama firing a preemptive charge of racism against a man who had not indulged in it. An extraordinary rhetorical feat, and a dishonorable one.
What makes this all the more dismaying is that it comes from Barack Obama, who has consistently presented himself as a healer, a man of a new generation above and beyond race, the man who would turn the page on the guilt-tripping grievance politics of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
I once believed him.
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#368154 - 10/18/08 07:24 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
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by Charles Krauthammer, winner of the best-named conservative columnist ever, until a Reagan Trickledown Bush IV comes along.
Given the propensity for Repugs to name their kids with silly names, this isn't too far fetched.
P.S.-Jim, I'm not sure how posting a short August post of mine is evidence of increased shrilldom.*
*-I JUST made that word up!
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#368155 - 10/18/08 07:47 PM
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You mean the post where you wrongly allege a conspiracy by the Republicans to target Democratic institutions, ignoring the anthrax sent to Murdoch's New York Post?
The same post where you chide Fatman for his tinfoil hat?
Evidence of your perpetual shrilldom.
As for Krauthammer, you forget that he worked for both Carter and Mondale, supports abortion, opposes the death peanalty, criticized "intelligent design," supports stem-cell research and advocates higher energy taxes.
The Washington Post's late editorial page editor called his column "independent and hard to peg politically. It’s a very tough column. There’s no ‘trendy’ in it. You never know what is going to happen next.” You know the Washington Post,, don't you? The same paper that just endorsed Obama?
I suppose that's why he's been honored by BOTH sides of the political spectrum, "from the famously liberal People for the American Way (First Amendment Award) to the staunchly conservative American Enterprise Institute (Irving Kristol Award)"
Of course, anyone who disagrees with you must be an evil, demon-spawn conservative, right Gunker?
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#368156 - 10/18/08 08:34 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Of course, anyone who disagrees with you must be an evil, demon-spawn conservative, right Gunker?
No, not quite, but politically, they must be confused as to how the Republican party's economic legerdemain since 1980 hasn't grievously hurt America.
1980: America, #1 creditor nation. $1 trillion of debt.
2008: America, #1 debtor nation, $10 trillion of debt.
1980: CEOs earn 30-40 times their average employee pay.
2007: CEOs earn 344 times their average employee pay.
The Milton Friedman/"trickle-down" economic theory has been in play for 28 years, and it has made America into a gated community of the 1% super-rich, and the 99% flat-lined wage-earning labor force.
It is essential to vote Democrat this year, and in 2010, vote liberal Democrats to replace "conservative" Democrats who pay lip-service to any hint of "supply-side" economics.
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#368157 - 10/18/08 08:47 PM
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Now, see, the Democratic Party I belong to isn't quite so Stalinist. Nor does it consider Bernie Sanders to be a great economic theorist.
If the Obama/Dean wing of the party continues to insist that it's the only "correct" faction, it's going to find itself alienating more voters than Carter did.
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#368158 - 10/19/08 07:10 AM
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Jim...your concern trolling is only outdone by your ignorance regarding the Democratic party. The Dem Party is as strong as it is precisely because of the Dean wing and the net roots. Reading your posts I honestly don't believe you belong to the Democratic party because you constantly focus on the same tired failed points that McCain08 has been pumping out for the toothless base all campaign. You do this while calling everyone else "koolaid drinkers" and try to position yourself as above the fray somehow. I call Bullshit. You absolutely fail at this political debating on a porno formo thing. 
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#368159 - 10/19/08 07:26 AM
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In other words, democratic party is strong because it's radical socialist? Is that what you are saying, elab?
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#368160 - 10/19/08 08:46 AM
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Belaborator only "knows" or "says" what Kos tells him, so the answer to your question is yes. It's utterly inconceivable to him that there are people in the Democratic Party who don't support his beloved Dear Leader. Free will and free thought are beyond the comprehension of sheep. But that's how it's always been...
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It is essential to vote Democrat this year, and in 2010, vote liberal Democrats to replace "conservative" Democrats who pay lip-service to any hint of "supply-side" economics.
First you seize power, then you remove any internal opposition. Worked for Uncle Joe and Uncle Addie:
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#368161 - 10/19/08 08:57 AM
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jimbo you sure do assume a lot...and you sure are wrong an awful lot.  You talk about free will yet you just repeat the same crap that the far right media is spinning. You fail at debating politics like you fail at everything you post on this message board. I look forward to the election being over so I can go back to not reading ANY of your posts and dakkon...once again you make absolutely no sense. Nice try tho.
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#368162 - 10/19/08 09:07 AM
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jimbo you sure do assume a lot...
Says the guy who assumes that I'm automatically a Republican because I oppose his messianic huckster "Dear Leader."
Sheep never see their own hypocrisy.
By the way: How many Democratic candidates have you actually gone out and campaigned for?
That's what I thought. None. You've just sat home and jerked off to Kos.
I've actually gone out and done it.
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I look forward to the election being over so I can go back to not reading ANY of your posts
Since when do you read anybody's posts? You take a quick glance, then denounce everyone but Gunker as being part of the "Rovian swift boat machine." In the process, you repeatedly make yourself look like a tool by applying the same label to Liberal outlets like the New York Times.
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#368163 - 10/19/08 09:23 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/07/03
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Now, see, the Democratic Party I belong to isn't quite so Stalinist. Nor does it consider Bernie Sanders to be a great economic theorist.
If the Obama/Dean wing of the party continues to insist that it's the only "correct" faction, it's going to find itself alienating more voters than Carter did.
Obama IS Carter all over again. In 4 years all the wheels will be off, and all the gears jammed. Our military will be a joke, some middle eastern country will be holding some of our people hostage, interest rates will be at 18% for people with a 720+ credit rating, which will give rise to the most conservative & bad-for-this nation republican we have ever seen. Hope everyone enjoys the upcoming "great experiment". We'll be paying for it for decades.
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#368164 - 10/19/08 09:33 AM
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^^^ AS a Democrat, the Carter parallel that scares me the most is the prospect that an Obama presidency will engender a Republican backlash that will make 1980 look benign by comparison. I have the unshakable feeling that an Obama victory will be utterly Pyrrhic.
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#368165 - 10/19/08 12:26 PM
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^^^If the democrats give full reign to their deepest far left desires & wants in an Obama presidency, it is most likely that a backlash will happen. The repubs will have 4 years to nurse their wounds and get their heads out of their asses, and will come up with some sort of national program a'la Contract With America. If they find a good enough talking head to carry the message, Sir Obama's term will likely be 4 years only. If the Dems get serious and put forth some real change, it might stick. But I really see Obama as the new incarnation of Smilin' Jimmy.
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#368167 - 10/19/08 01:55 PM
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^^^If the democrats give full reign to their deepest far left desires & wants in an Obama presidency, it is most likely that a backlash will happen. The repubs will have 4 years to nurse their wounds and get their heads out of their asses, and will come up with some sort of national program a'la Contract With America. If they find a good enough talking head to carry the message, Sir Obama's term will likely be 4 years only. If the Dems get serious and put forth some real change, it might stick. But I really see Obama as the new incarnation of Smilin' Jimmy.
Won't take 4 years,two will be enough.
If the Dems,not just Obama but the the Congress as well,get what they want....
..I predict 10%+ unemployment and double digit interest rates before the mid-term elections.
The only question in my mind is will the Reps put forth Reagan/Gingrich (Economics > Social)conservative or a Huckabee/Brownback(Social > Economic)conservative.
ETA...The Econ conservatives will win,the Socials will not.
Edited by Spunko (10/19/08 01:57 PM)
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#368168 - 10/19/08 03:47 PM
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the worst problem Obama will have is trying to FIX the fucking mess the Republicans have gotten us into. But he will fix it...because he is not so idealogically blinded that he won't pick the right people to help. We have had a chance for Republican rule and look where it has gotten us. The majority of Americans realize we are on the wrong track. Shit Jimbo i wish i had the OCD to look up that retail salesman pic of yrself that you put up in the cage...cuz man that is soooo you
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#368170 - 10/19/08 04:02 PM
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does anyone know if that was really todd palin in the SNL sketch last night? http://www.hulu.com/watch/39808/saturday-night-live-update-palin-rap
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#368171 - 10/19/08 04:07 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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The majority of Americans realize we are on the wrong track.
You may be right, but it is a THIN majority. It is very likely that Obama will win a great many states, but if polls are anywhere near close he will be winning by small majorities. 48/52, 49/51, 46/54. That's no blowout, no mandate. There will be a VERY grumpy minority of considerable size looking for a way to sink him. My opinion is that he & his presidency will turn out to be the Jimmy Carter of the 21st century. I think he will ultimately do himself in. But if the Repubs can find the right messenger, he is going to have a hell of a time in 4 years. And, as it was mentioned before, if he doesn't get a handle on things right away, and congress can't stop fighting each other, his programs could be null & void in as little as 2 years. There is a great deal at stake.
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#368173 - 10/19/08 04:43 PM
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#368174 - 10/19/08 04:43 PM
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You may be right, but it is a THIN majority. It is very likely that Obama will win a great many states, but if polls are anywhere near close he will be winning by small majorities. 48/52, 49/51, 46/54. That's no blowout, no mandate. There will be a VERY grumpy minority of considerable size looking for a way to sink him. My opinion is that he & his presidency will turn out to be the Jimmy Carter of the 21st century. I think he will ultimately do himself in. But if the Repubs can find the right messenger, he is going to have a hell of a time in 4 years. And, as it was mentioned before, if he doesn't get a handle on things right away, and congress can't stop fighting each other, his programs could be null & void in as little as 2 years. There is a great deal at stake.
Dude, let her have her tantrum. Hit her on it in a few months when the world isn't magically transformed and she's one of the first to denonce the charlatan.
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#368175 - 10/19/08 05:03 PM
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#368176 - 10/21/08 08:32 PM
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Then how do you explain the iconography put out on Obama's behalf?
Um...Obama has better and more talented graphic designers working for his campaign. Duh.
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#368179 - 11/03/08 12:42 AM
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any of you republican turds wanna put some money on the election? just a friendly bet ...i sure as hell am going to reign mocking fire on this board when Obama wins (thank god) but all this yipping and gargling of right wing, last minute, stall tactic, discussion mind fuck shit makes me laugh . any takers? ill go 5 hundred American. Honour basis...ill pay but im as worried about Obama losing as i am about Mccain staying up all day without taking a fucking nap 
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#368182 - 11/03/08 10:46 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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my fiance is American .
im allowed to show interest
either way any of you want to pony up some cash on it, or are you reserved to the fact your going to lose?
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#368183 - 11/03/08 12:02 PM
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#368184 - 11/03/08 02:46 PM
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Ah the American arrogance that is always surreal to see.
Your wars,economy and social focus directly influence me and my life so you can suck my big fat cock if you think im going to pull back my interest because it bugs you .
Grab a fucking brain , you live on the planet earth...what happens in your country has fucked up the world for the last 8 years...
in no way is it the sole cause of the worlds given problems but maybe one day youll wake up and be flattered by the attention..
im actually beyond hopeful Obama is going to win because alot of americans. more then half strike me as being informed,intelligent and admirable people, the other half..
fucking dense, ignorant, racist.. and oblivious to reality.
if anyone cares to argue that fact and completely disregard the last eight years then fire away , i could use a laugh .
ive been watching election coverage to the point my eyes are square
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#368186 - 11/03/08 07:57 PM
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Tough Billy, you're NOT an American. You don't get a say.  We'll decide on our own, thank you!!  Your ancestors landed too far North. There's no NAFTA for the election. Like the Mexicans: Stay out!  And, get your fiance, whatever his name is, to suck your cock. I'm not interested. 
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#368187 - 11/04/08 01:29 AM
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nice to see you Fatman
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