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#368103 - 10/16/08 02:27 PM
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Misconceptions of Obama fuel Republican campaign
Right. Misconceptions. For Example:
--It's a misconception that Obama launched his political career in the home of a terrorist. Bombing US Defense Installations is the "New Patriotism."
--It's a misconception that Obama is a Marxist. He just wants to "Redistribute the Wealth."
--It's a misconception that Obama stole the Democratic nomination. He merely paid ACORN $800,000 to do it for him.
--It's a misconception that Obama was an avid follower of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church of intolerance and hate. Most Sundays, he was asleep in his pew until Michelle gave him the elbow.
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#368105 - 10/16/08 02:36 PM
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I'm just happy they stopped calling them "distractions." 
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#368106 - 10/16/08 04:55 PM
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McCain and Palin's have limited options with respect to stopping Obama from winning, and their only shot may be to whip up the racists and retards and for the emergence of another James Earl Ray.
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#368107 - 10/16/08 05:22 PM
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McCain and Palin's have limited options with respect to stopping Obama from winning, and their only shot may be to whip up the racists and retards and for the emergence of another James Earl Ray.
So, let me get this straight: Criticizing "The Chosen One" is not only "racist," but an incitement to assassination? 
"Crasha-Banga-Booma" 
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#368108 - 10/16/08 05:49 PM
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I have seen enough of Mrs. Palin on the stump, and various underling goons acting on behalf of the McCain/Palin ticket, to know that she is trying to whip hatred against Senator Obama. In a sense one can't blame them, since their nominee, Old Man Yells at Clouds, fucked up all three of his joint appearances with Senator Obama. Back in 2000 I respected John McCain and would have been proud to vote for him. Now I just wish he would go away, and spend the rest of his life spending Cindy's money to help all of those poor children like Trig Palin, who were born with autism. Charles De Gaulle was so right when he said that old age is a shipwreck on the voyage of life.
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#368109 - 10/16/08 05:57 PM
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Gee.
Trying to turn people against their opponent.
In the middle of an election.
How awful.
How dreadful.
How Rovian. 
It's a good thing we have Obama The Messiah to fix this. From now on, there will be no more pesky elections. Just coronations.
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#368112 - 10/16/08 06:44 PM
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Jimbo is a smart guy, which is why I can't understand his dislike for Obama. Some of Obama's supporters can be naive, but the events of the past eight years ought to convince intelligent Americans that we need a major change in direction. I really believe the the Sage of Baltimore would vote for Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin.
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#368113 - 10/16/08 06:45 PM
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Jimbo, you're not making any sense.
I'll type slower then.
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you are defending obvious racists
Criticism of Obama is inherently racist? That's akin to those Republicans who believe criticism of Bush is inherently un-american.
THAT'S guzzling the kool-aid.
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...and people who are obviously wrong on the facts.
Obviously wrong on the facts?
Did Barack Obama launch his first political run from Bill Ayers' living room, or did he not?
Did the Obama campaign give hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN, or did it not?
Did ACORN's political wing endorse Barack Obama, or did it not?
Did ACORN workers submit thousands of fraudulent voter registrations, or did it not?
Did Louis Farrakhan refer to Barack Obama as the Messiah or did he not?
By the way, Chuck: What's an officially non-partisan group like ACORN doing with a political wing in the first place?
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#368114 - 10/16/08 06:49 PM
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Jimbo is a smart guy, which is why I can't understand his dislike for Obama... I really believe the the Sage of Baltimore would vote for Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin.
I detest all messianic hucksters, irrespective of party or denomination. And clearly, that's what we have here. Old Henry Louis would agree on this one. Remember his position on going broke betting on the intelligence of the American people?
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#368115 - 10/16/08 06:56 PM
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Honestly the messianic thing is just a Republican Paintjob. Not one of the many many people I know planning to vote for Obama see him as messianic. This year Issues > Character Attacks and it is totally tearing the Republican party asunder. HAHAHA 
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#368117 - 10/16/08 07:08 PM
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Jim, the original post contained a video of folks making racist and factually wrong comments about Obama. The folks in that video are indefensible. But you attempt to defend them.
The point is, the right wing is trying to whip up the echo chamber with bullshit again. About two weeks out, we will start to see the push polls, that's what my South Carolina reference was about.
I don't give a fuck what Farrakhan says, and neither does Obama. I say Tris Speaker was the greatest centerfielder in baseball history, does that diminish him because I promote him highly?
In last night's debate, Obama made swift work of the bullshit allegations, and kicked McCain's ass on issues, while McCain is trying this character assassination crap. It won't work this time. And Obama and the Democrats will have a mandate, the wing nuts can't take it away with some weak crap about voter registration workers being dishonest. Did you raise as much hell about Blackwell here in Ohio in 2004?
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#368121 - 10/16/08 07:26 PM
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the right wing is trying to whip up the echo chamber with bullshit again.
And Obama has never run a negative or mislading ad? Never?
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I don't give a fuck what Farrakhan says, and neither does Obama.
Then how do you explain the iconography put out on Obama's behalf?
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I say Tris Speaker was the greatest centerfielder in baseball history, does that diminish him because I promote him highly?
No one ever claimed Tris Speaker was going to fix all the world's problems.
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In last night's debate, Obama made swift work of the bullshit allegations, and kicked McCain's ass on issues,
Obama ducked a LOT of issues, like how he intends to pay for all the "change" he promises. McCain ducked issues as well, to be sure. But saying he "kicked McCain's ass" flies in the face of reality.
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while McCain is trying this character assassination crap.
So pointing out the facts, ones you can't or won't deny, is now"character assassination." Just as criticizing a political candidate on his record is "racist?"
I have to get a hold of this Brave New Dictionary you're using.
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#368122 - 10/16/08 07:31 PM
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I believe that was McCain's reaction after hearing Rev. Wright's "God Damn America" sermon.
In any event, it doesn't alter or diminish the messianic iconography with which Obama and his acolytes have saturated the media.
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#368123 - 10/16/08 07:45 PM
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the right wing is trying to whip up the echo chamber with bullshit again.
And Obama has never run a negative or mislading ad? Never?
Us on the left aren't spreading lies about McCain.
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I don't give a fuck what Farrakhan says, and neither does Obama.
Then how do you explain the iconography put out on Obama's behalf?
On Obama's behalf! Not by Obama. Why does it rile you so much that Obama has some fanatical supporters?
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I say Tris Speaker was the greatest centerfielder in baseball history, does that diminish him because I promote him highly?
No one ever claimed Tris Speaker was going to fix all the world's problems.
Still the same principle, Spoke or Jesus or whoever.
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In last night's debate, Obama made swift work of the bullshit allegations, and kicked McCain's ass on issues,
Obama ducked a LOT of issues, like how he intends to pay for all the "change" he promises. McCain ducked issues as well, to be sure. But saying he "kicked McCain's ass" flies in the face of reality.
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while McCain is trying this character assassination crap.
So pointing out the facts, ones you can't or won't deny, is now"character assassination." Just as criticizing a political candidate on his record is "racist?"
I have to get a hold of this Brave New Dictionary you're using.
I said the folks in the original poster's video were racist, they obviously are. And many of them are very obviously wrong on facts. And too ill-informed to speak to anyone's record. Look at the video, man, Al Jazeera (sp?) caught Ohio at its worst, to be sure.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#368125 - 10/16/08 07:53 PM
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And Obama has never run a negative or mislading ad? Never?
Us on the left aren't spreading lies about McCain.
Let's run this one again:
Dubious Claims in Obama’s Ads Against McCain
ROANOKE, Va. — Two weeks ago, Senator Barack Obama’s presidential campaign gleefully publicized a spate of news reports about misleading and untruthful statements in the advertisements of his rival, Senator John McCain. Asked by a voter in New Hampshire if he would respond in kind, Mr. Obama said, “I just have a different philosophy, I’m going to respond with the truth,” adding, “I’m not going to start making up lies about John McCain.”
Yet as Mr. McCain’s misleading advertisements became fodder on shows like “The View” and “Saturday Night Live,” Mr. Obama began his own run of advertisements on radio and television that have matched the dubious nature of Mr. McCain’s more questionable spots.
A radio advertisement running in Wisconsin and other contested states misleadingly reports that Mr. McCain “has stood in the way of” federal financing for stem cell research; Mr. McCain did once oppose such federally supported research but broke with President Bush to consistently support it starting in 2001...
A commercial running here on Thursday morning highlighting Mr. McCain’s votes against incentives for alternative energy misleadingly asserts he supports tax breaks for “one source of energy: oil companies.” Mr. McCain’s proposed corporate tax break would cover all companies, including those developing new sources of power.
A new television advertisement playing in areas with high concentrations of elderly voters and emphasizing Mr. McCain’s support for President Bush’s failed plan for private Social Security accounts misleadingly implies Mr. McCain supported “cutting benefits in half” — an analysis of Mr. Bush’s plan that would have applied to upper-income Americans retiring in the year 2075.
A much criticized Spanish-language television advertisement wrongly links the views of Mr. McCain, who was a champion of the sweeping immigration overhaul pushed by Mr. Bush, to those of Rush Limbaugh, a harsh critic of the approach, and, frequently, of Mr. McCain.
The advertisement implies Mr. Limbaugh is one of Mr. McCain’s “Republican friends,” and quotes Mr. Limbaugh as calling Mexicans “stupid and unqualified.” Mr. Limbaugh has written that his quotes were taken out of context and that he was mocking the views of others.
In all, Mr. Obama has released at least five commercials that have been criticized as misleading or untruthful against Mr. McCain’s positions in the past two weeks. Mr. Obama drew complaints from many of the independent fact-checking groups and editorial writers who just two weeks ago were criticizing Mr. McCain for producing a large share of this year’s untruthful spots (“Pants on Fire,” the fact-checking Web site PolitiFact.com wrote of Mr. Obama’s advertisement invoking Mr. Limbaugh; “False!” FactCheck.org said of his commercial on Social Security.)
Some Democrats expressed concern that Mr. Obama, in stretching the truth... was putting at risk the “above politics” persona he has tried to cultivate.
“I do think there is a risk,” said Joe Trippi, a longtime Democratic strategist. “The risk is that they seem to be different, that the appeal for Obama is ‘it’s not the same old politics...’ ”
Tucker Bounds, a spokesman for Mr. McCain, said, “It’s bad enough that Barack Obama fictionalizes his own record, but it is a disgrace that he lies about John McCain’s.”
The disputed spots from Mr. Obama coincide with a significantly increased advertising push by his campaign and the Democratic National Committee that has taken a decidedly negative tone in the past few weeks, perhaps reflecting the natural progression of a tight campaign. CMAG, a group that tracks political advertising, said Thursday that the $10 million Mr. Obama had spent over the previous week on advertisements represented a nearly $4 million increase from the week before.
The increased advertising push has been accompanied by a campaign by the Democratic National Committee featuring an emotional advertisement shown on African-American-oriented programs meant to encourage blacks to register to vote. It opens with violent images from the civil rights era of black marchers being attacked with power hoses and the words, “Thousands died so you could vote,” the advertisement states. The advertisement was not publicly announced by the party.
Some of the advertisements that have drawn criticism were similarly started without fanfare. Mr. Obama’s campaign did not announce it was running its new radio spot that said Mr. McCain “has stood in the way, he’s opposed stem cell research.” That ad concluded, “John McCain doesn’t understand that medical research benefiting millions shouldn’t be held hostage by the political views of a few.”
The radio advertisement correctly asserts that Mr. McCain’s running mate, Ms. Palin, is against the use of federal funds for stem cell research. But since 2001, Mr. McCain has consistently supported the financing. Last year, he voted for the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act, which Mr. Bush vetoed, and in 2004 signed a letter to the president with 57 other senators, urging him to change his policy on stem cell research.
The campaign has said Ms. Palin will defer to Mr. McCain on the matter should they win the White House...
The stem cell advertisement hit the airwaves around the same time Mr. Obama released his Spanish-language commercial about Mr. Limbaugh. Bill Adair, the editor of PolitiFact, the fact-checking Web site of The St. Petersburg Times and Congressional Quarterly, said that until last week, the McCain campaign was more frequently guilty of including the most egregious falsehoods in its advertisements.
But the advertisement with Mr. Limbaugh, he said, prompted PolitiFact to deliver its worst rating, “Pants on Fire,” to Mr. Obama for the first time (as opposed to six times for Mr. McCain). The “Pants on Fire” rating is defined as, “not just false, but ridiculously false,” Mr. Adair said.
“I think the Obama campaign in the last two weeks has been very aggressive with its advertising,” Mr. Adair said. “And ads like the stem cell ad and the Spanish-language ad are just not accurate.”
Mr. Obama has been previously challenged over falsehoods or misleading statements in his advertisements. For instance, the campaign has frequently been criticized for implying that Mr. McCain has singled out “big oil” as the sole recipient of his broad, corporate tax cut. Mr. Obama does it again in his latest spot, in which the announcer says he “does support tax breaks for one source of energy: Oil Companies.”
RACIST, ROVIAN SWIFTBOAT MACHINE
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#368127 - 10/16/08 08:04 PM
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On Obama's behalf! Not by Obama.
You might want to look at that again:
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Why does it rile you so much that Obama has some fanatical supporters?
Asks the guy who keeps harping on a handful of yahoos at a Palin rally?
The difference, Chuck, is that the yahoos at the rally aren't systematically churning out messianic propaganda. Obama is.
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#368128 - 10/16/08 08:07 PM
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You are trying to compare this weak drivel to the blatant racism in the video?
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
The New York Times is "weak drivel?"
Really?
I'll have to remember that.
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#368130 - 10/16/08 08:08 PM
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This ain't fair, I gotta type, "-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy," every time. I can't keep up.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
Why don't you just make it your sig?
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#368132 - 10/17/08 12:47 PM
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The criticisms from the left about how some McCain supporters are treating Obama make some good points. Those points would carry a lot more weight if the people making them weren't the same ones that accused Palin of faking her own pregnancy about five minutes after McCain selected her. Where was all of the outrage about how the people are not treating the candidates with respect then?
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#368133 - 10/17/08 02:25 PM
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Did someone say motivational poster?
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#368135 - 10/17/08 02:49 PM
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#368136 - 10/17/08 03:06 PM
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#368139 - 10/17/08 03:54 PM
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McCain isn't as bad, but still more religious than Obama...
How you figure that one?
He read it on Kos. It must be true.
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#368141 - 10/17/08 03:58 PM
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AlexPanzer will not lose his virginity or move out of his mother's basement because he is a fat, cheap, burger-flipping slob with torture/enema fetishes.
FIXED.
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#368143 - 10/17/08 06:38 PM
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McCain isn't as bad, but still more religious than Obama...
How you figure that one?
He read it on Kos. It must be true.
He believes that the country was founded on Christianity. You can look up the interview on youtube, etc. So far, I have not found a similar quote by Obama. But, if he said something similar, it would be just as disappointing.
On a side note, what is Kos?
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#368145 - 10/17/08 06:59 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Neither form of their belief is very promising, but I fear that if McCain were to get into office he would try to institute more of his beliefs into the government (like roe v. wade, etc). Obviously, Obama is religious as well, but seems to understand the separation between church and state a little better. Keep this thread going! I love the pics from both sides. This is awesome. Ideas for future pics: He had a class rank of 894 out of 899 students at Annapolis. Priceless. He thought Spain was part of latin america. http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1842156,00.html 5 plane crashes!, Keating Five, etc. I love this thread
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#368149 - 10/17/08 08:08 PM
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erratic
Do you even know what the word means? You're like Ri*n Nix: As soon as Brandon taught him the word "generic," he used it in every thread without regard to it's relevance.
I've been pretty consistent in refuting your dogma.
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#368150 - 10/17/08 09:11 PM
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Perhaps "increasingly shrill" would have been a better word choice?
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#368152 - 10/18/08 08:06 AM
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"increasingly shrill"
Says the author of this gem?
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#368153 - 10/18/08 08:06 AM
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Getting back to the issues:
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You are trying to compare this weak drivel to the blatant racism in the video?
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
Let's talk about "blatant racism"
Who's Playing the Race Card?
Let me get this straight. A couple of agitated yahoos in a rally of thousands yell something offensive and incendiary, and John McCain and Sarah Palin are not just guilty by association -- with total strangers, mind you -- but worse: guilty according to the New York Times of "race-baiting and xenophobia."
But should you bring up Barack Obama's real associations -- 20 years with Jeremiah Wright, working on two foundations and distributing money with William Ayers, citing the raving Michael Pfleger as one who helps him keep his moral compass (Chicago Sun-Times, April 2004) and the long-standing relationship with the left-wing vote-fraud specialist ACORN -- you have crossed the line into illegitimate guilt by association. Moreover, it is tinged with racism.
The fact that, when John McCain actually heard one of those nasty things said about Obama, he incurred the boos of his own crowd by insisting that Obama is "a decent person . . . that you do not have to be scared [of] as president" makes no difference. It surely did not stop John Lewis from comparing McCain to George Wallace.
The search for McCain's racial offenses is untiring and often unhinged. Remember McCain's Berlin/celebrity ad that showed a shot of Paris Hilton? An appalling attempt to exploit white hostility at the idea of black men "becoming sexually involved with white women," fulminated New York Times columnist Bob Herbert. He took to TV to denounce McCain's exhumation of that most vile prejudice, pointing out McCain's gratuitous insertion in the ad of "two phallic symbols," the Washington Monument and the Leaning Tower of Pisa.
Except that Herbert was entirely delusional. There was no Washington Monument. There was no Leaning Tower. Just photographs seen in every newspaper in the world of Barack Obama's Berlin rally in the setting he himself had chosen, Berlin's Victory Column.
Herbert is not the only fevered one. On Tuesday night, Rachel Maddow of MSNBC and Jonathan Alter of Newsweek fell over themselves agreeing that the "political salience" of the Republican attack on ACORN is, yes, its unstated appeal to racial prejudice.
This about an organization that is being accused of voter registration fraud in about a dozen states. In Nevada, the investigating secretary of state is a Democrat. Is he playing the race card, too?
What makes the charges against McCain especially revolting is that he has been scrupulous in eschewing the race card. He has gone far beyond what is right and necessary, refusing even to make an issue of Obama's deep, self-declared connection with the race-baiting Rev. Wright.
In the name of racial rectitude, McCain has denied himself the use of that perfectly legitimate issue. It is simply Orwellian for him to be now so widely vilified as a stoker of racism. What makes it doubly Orwellian is that these charges are being made on behalf of the one presidential candidate who has repeatedly, and indeed quite brilliantly, deployed the race card.
How brilliantly? The reason Bill Clinton is sulking in his tent is because he feels that Obama surrogates succeeded in painting him as a racist. Clinton has many sins, but from his student days to his post-presidency, his commitment and sincerity in advancing the cause of African Americans have been undeniable. If the man Toni Morrison called the first black president can be turned into a closet racist, then anyone can.
And Obama has shown no hesitation in doing so to McCain. Weeks ago, in Springfield, Mo., and elsewhere, he warned darkly that George Bush and John McCain were going to try to frighten you by saying that, among other scary things, Obama has "a funny name" and "doesn't look like all those other presidents on those dollar bills."
McCain has never said that, nor anything like that. When asked at the time to produce one instance of McCain deploying race, the Obama campaign could not. Yet here was Obama firing a preemptive charge of racism against a man who had not indulged in it. An extraordinary rhetorical feat, and a dishonorable one.
What makes this all the more dismaying is that it comes from Barack Obama, who has consistently presented himself as a healer, a man of a new generation above and beyond race, the man who would turn the page on the guilt-tripping grievance politics of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
I once believed him.
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#368154 - 10/18/08 07:24 PM
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by Charles Krauthammer, winner of the best-named conservative columnist ever, until a Reagan Trickledown Bush IV comes along.
Given the propensity for Repugs to name their kids with silly names, this isn't too far fetched.
P.S.-Jim, I'm not sure how posting a short August post of mine is evidence of increased shrilldom.*
*-I JUST made that word up!
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#368155 - 10/18/08 07:47 PM
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You mean the post where you wrongly allege a conspiracy by the Republicans to target Democratic institutions, ignoring the anthrax sent to Murdoch's New York Post?
The same post where you chide Fatman for his tinfoil hat?
Evidence of your perpetual shrilldom.
As for Krauthammer, you forget that he worked for both Carter and Mondale, supports abortion, opposes the death peanalty, criticized "intelligent design," supports stem-cell research and advocates higher energy taxes.
The Washington Post's late editorial page editor called his column "independent and hard to peg politically. It’s a very tough column. There’s no ‘trendy’ in it. You never know what is going to happen next.” You know the Washington Post,, don't you? The same paper that just endorsed Obama?
I suppose that's why he's been honored by BOTH sides of the political spectrum, "from the famously liberal People for the American Way (First Amendment Award) to the staunchly conservative American Enterprise Institute (Irving Kristol Award)"
Of course, anyone who disagrees with you must be an evil, demon-spawn conservative, right Gunker?
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#368156 - 10/18/08 08:34 PM
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Of course, anyone who disagrees with you must be an evil, demon-spawn conservative, right Gunker?
No, not quite, but politically, they must be confused as to how the Republican party's economic legerdemain since 1980 hasn't grievously hurt America.
1980: America, #1 creditor nation. $1 trillion of debt.
2008: America, #1 debtor nation, $10 trillion of debt.
1980: CEOs earn 30-40 times their average employee pay.
2007: CEOs earn 344 times their average employee pay.
The Milton Friedman/"trickle-down" economic theory has been in play for 28 years, and it has made America into a gated community of the 1% super-rich, and the 99% flat-lined wage-earning labor force.
It is essential to vote Democrat this year, and in 2010, vote liberal Democrats to replace "conservative" Democrats who pay lip-service to any hint of "supply-side" economics.
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#368157 - 10/18/08 08:47 PM
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Now, see, the Democratic Party I belong to isn't quite so Stalinist. Nor does it consider Bernie Sanders to be a great economic theorist.
If the Obama/Dean wing of the party continues to insist that it's the only "correct" faction, it's going to find itself alienating more voters than Carter did.
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#368158 - 10/19/08 07:10 AM
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Jim...your concern trolling is only outdone by your ignorance regarding the Democratic party. The Dem Party is as strong as it is precisely because of the Dean wing and the net roots. Reading your posts I honestly don't believe you belong to the Democratic party because you constantly focus on the same tired failed points that McCain08 has been pumping out for the toothless base all campaign. You do this while calling everyone else "koolaid drinkers" and try to position yourself as above the fray somehow. I call Bullshit. You absolutely fail at this political debating on a porno formo thing. 
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#368159 - 10/19/08 07:26 AM
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In other words, democratic party is strong because it's radical socialist? Is that what you are saying, elab?
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#368160 - 10/19/08 08:46 AM
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Belaborator only "knows" or "says" what Kos tells him, so the answer to your question is yes. It's utterly inconceivable to him that there are people in the Democratic Party who don't support his beloved Dear Leader. Free will and free thought are beyond the comprehension of sheep. But that's how it's always been...
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It is essential to vote Democrat this year, and in 2010, vote liberal Democrats to replace "conservative" Democrats who pay lip-service to any hint of "supply-side" economics.
First you seize power, then you remove any internal opposition. Worked for Uncle Joe and Uncle Addie:
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#368161 - 10/19/08 08:57 AM
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jimbo you sure do assume a lot...and you sure are wrong an awful lot. You talk about free will yet you just repeat the same crap that the far right media is spinning. You fail at debating politics like you fail at everything you post on this message board. I look forward to the election being over so I can go back to not reading ANY of your posts and dakkon...once again you make absolutely no sense. Nice try tho.
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#368162 - 10/19/08 09:07 AM
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jimbo you sure do assume a lot...
Says the guy who assumes that I'm automatically a Republican because I oppose his messianic huckster "Dear Leader."
Sheep never see their own hypocrisy.
By the way: How many Democratic candidates have you actually gone out and campaigned for?
That's what I thought. None. You've just sat home and jerked off to Kos.
I've actually gone out and done it.
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I look forward to the election being over so I can go back to not reading ANY of your posts
Since when do you read anybody's posts? You take a quick glance, then denounce everyone but Gunker as being part of the "Rovian swift boat machine." In the process, you repeatedly make yourself look like a tool by applying the same label to Liberal outlets like the New York Times.
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#368163 - 10/19/08 09:23 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/07/03
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Now, see, the Democratic Party I belong to isn't quite so Stalinist. Nor does it consider Bernie Sanders to be a great economic theorist.
If the Obama/Dean wing of the party continues to insist that it's the only "correct" faction, it's going to find itself alienating more voters than Carter did.
Obama IS Carter all over again. In 4 years all the wheels will be off, and all the gears jammed. Our military will be a joke, some middle eastern country will be holding some of our people hostage, interest rates will be at 18% for people with a 720+ credit rating, which will give rise to the most conservative & bad-for-this nation republican we have ever seen. Hope everyone enjoys the upcoming "great experiment". We'll be paying for it for decades.
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#368164 - 10/19/08 09:33 AM
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^^^ AS a Democrat, the Carter parallel that scares me the most is the prospect that an Obama presidency will engender a Republican backlash that will make 1980 look benign by comparison. I have the unshakable feeling that an Obama victory will be utterly Pyrrhic.
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#368165 - 10/19/08 12:26 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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^^^If the democrats give full reign to their deepest far left desires & wants in an Obama presidency, it is most likely that a backlash will happen. The repubs will have 4 years to nurse their wounds and get their heads out of their asses, and will come up with some sort of national program a'la Contract With America. If they find a good enough talking head to carry the message, Sir Obama's term will likely be 4 years only. If the Dems get serious and put forth some real change, it might stick. But I really see Obama as the new incarnation of Smilin' Jimmy.
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#368167 - 10/19/08 01:55 PM
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Registered: 08/04/06
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^^^If the democrats give full reign to their deepest far left desires & wants in an Obama presidency, it is most likely that a backlash will happen. The repubs will have 4 years to nurse their wounds and get their heads out of their asses, and will come up with some sort of national program a'la Contract With America. If they find a good enough talking head to carry the message, Sir Obama's term will likely be 4 years only. If the Dems get serious and put forth some real change, it might stick. But I really see Obama as the new incarnation of Smilin' Jimmy.
Won't take 4 years,two will be enough.
If the Dems,not just Obama but the the Congress as well,get what they want....
..I predict 10%+ unemployment and double digit interest rates before the mid-term elections.
The only question in my mind is will the Reps put forth Reagan/Gingrich (Economics > Social)conservative or a Huckabee/Brownback(Social > Economic)conservative.
ETA...The Econ conservatives will win,the Socials will not.
Edited by Spunko (10/19/08 01:57 PM)
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#368168 - 10/19/08 03:47 PM
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the worst problem Obama will have is trying to FIX the fucking mess the Republicans have gotten us into. But he will fix it...because he is not so idealogically blinded that he won't pick the right people to help. We have had a chance for Republican rule and look where it has gotten us. The majority of Americans realize we are on the wrong track. Shit Jimbo i wish i had the OCD to look up that retail salesman pic of yrself that you put up in the cage...cuz man that is soooo you
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#368170 - 10/19/08 04:02 PM
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does anyone know if that was really todd palin in the SNL sketch last night? http://www.hulu.com/watch/39808/saturday-night-live-update-palin-rap
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#368171 - 10/19/08 04:07 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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The majority of Americans realize we are on the wrong track.
You may be right, but it is a THIN majority. It is very likely that Obama will win a great many states, but if polls are anywhere near close he will be winning by small majorities. 48/52, 49/51, 46/54. That's no blowout, no mandate. There will be a VERY grumpy minority of considerable size looking for a way to sink him. My opinion is that he & his presidency will turn out to be the Jimmy Carter of the 21st century. I think he will ultimately do himself in. But if the Repubs can find the right messenger, he is going to have a hell of a time in 4 years. And, as it was mentioned before, if he doesn't get a handle on things right away, and congress can't stop fighting each other, his programs could be null & void in as little as 2 years. There is a great deal at stake.
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#368173 - 10/19/08 04:43 PM
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#368174 - 10/19/08 04:43 PM
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You may be right, but it is a THIN majority. It is very likely that Obama will win a great many states, but if polls are anywhere near close he will be winning by small majorities. 48/52, 49/51, 46/54. That's no blowout, no mandate. There will be a VERY grumpy minority of considerable size looking for a way to sink him. My opinion is that he & his presidency will turn out to be the Jimmy Carter of the 21st century. I think he will ultimately do himself in. But if the Repubs can find the right messenger, he is going to have a hell of a time in 4 years. And, as it was mentioned before, if he doesn't get a handle on things right away, and congress can't stop fighting each other, his programs could be null & void in as little as 2 years. There is a great deal at stake.
Dude, let her have her tantrum. Hit her on it in a few months when the world isn't magically transformed and she's one of the first to denonce the charlatan.
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#368175 - 10/19/08 05:03 PM
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#368176 - 10/21/08 08:32 PM
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Then how do you explain the iconography put out on Obama's behalf?
Um...Obama has better and more talented graphic designers working for his campaign. Duh.
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#368179 - 11/03/08 12:42 AM
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any of you republican turds wanna put some money on the election? just a friendly bet ...i sure as hell am going to reign mocking fire on this board when Obama wins (thank god) but all this yipping and gargling of right wing, last minute, stall tactic, discussion mind fuck shit makes me laugh . any takers? ill go 5 hundred American. Honour basis...ill pay but im as worried about Obama losing as i am about Mccain staying up all day without taking a fucking nap 
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#368182 - 11/03/08 10:46 AM
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my fiance is American .
im allowed to show interest
either way any of you want to pony up some cash on it, or are you reserved to the fact your going to lose?
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#368183 - 11/03/08 12:02 PM
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#368184 - 11/03/08 02:46 PM
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Ah the American arrogance that is always surreal to see.
Your wars,economy and social focus directly influence me and my life so you can suck my big fat cock if you think im going to pull back my interest because it bugs you .
Grab a fucking brain , you live on the planet earth...what happens in your country has fucked up the world for the last 8 years...
in no way is it the sole cause of the worlds given problems but maybe one day youll wake up and be flattered by the attention..
im actually beyond hopeful Obama is going to win because alot of americans. more then half strike me as being informed,intelligent and admirable people, the other half..
fucking dense, ignorant, racist.. and oblivious to reality.
if anyone cares to argue that fact and completely disregard the last eight years then fire away , i could use a laugh .
ive been watching election coverage to the point my eyes are square
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#368186 - 11/03/08 07:57 PM
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Tough Billy, you're NOT an American. You don't get a say.  We'll decide on our own, thank you!!  Your ancestors landed too far North. There's no NAFTA for the election. Like the Mexicans: Stay out!  And, get your fiance, whatever his name is, to suck your cock. I'm not interested. 
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#368187 - 11/04/08 01:29 AM
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nice to see you Fatman
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