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#365815 - 10/08/08 08:51 AM
Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Tell me why it is that you believe someone like Sara Palin is a good thing for the U.S.A. Explain to me the exciting things that she brings to the table for all of us. Are you looking forward to her being the President of the United States when McCain passes away after being in the Oval office for a month? I want reasonable thought-out responses (I know, it might be too much to ask for). Bring it.
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#365816 - 10/08/08 08:55 AM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Errr dude, there are no republicans on this bord. In case you haven't noticed.
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#365819 - 10/08/08 09:16 AM
Obama Supporters -- Why Joe Biden is a Good Thing?
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[  ]Tell me why it is that you believe someone like Joe Biden is a good thing for the U.S.A. Explain to me the exciting things that he brings to the table for all of us. Are you looking forward to him being the President of the United States when Obama is assassinated after being in the Oval office for a month? I want reasonable thought-out responses (I know, it might be too much to ask for). Bring it. [/ ]
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#365820 - 10/08/08 09:19 AM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
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If there are no Republicans here, there are definitely plenty of McCain supporters to answer the question.
 <- I propose this smiley should be re-named Palin.
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#365821 - 10/08/08 09:23 AM
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I think you mistake distrust of Obama with support for McCain when it comes to many here. The two are not synonymous.
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#365822 - 10/08/08 09:31 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
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As always you bring up a valid point my friend, but is McCain (or any other politician for that matter) any more trustworthy? I'll openly admit that I don't know Obama's stance on the adult industry, but I do know that the current administration has made my life (and I'm sure many other's lives in the industry) a living hell.
I guess I'm just suprised that so many people that are on here and involved with, or at the very least, are interested in porn would think that electing someone who voted with Bush so often would make a better candidate than Obama.
I'm willing to wager that at least 80% of my co-workers are Obama supporters, and then I come here and there's soooo much McCain love. Just somewhat surprising to me.
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#365823 - 10/08/08 09:41 AM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Shit, never exepcted to say it, but Darrah is right. I don't think she's a Palin fan tho'.
Anyways, there are things to admire about Sara. Her performance under extreme pressure both at the RNC and in the VP debate for instance. Or that she wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth, have worked hard all her life, raises 5 kids, is a super popular governor and a decent VP nominee. Quite a feat for one woman, isn't it? Many republicans are also simply delighted to see a hot, young woman preaching their values.
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#365826 - 10/08/08 10:57 AM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Yes, I do think she is qualified. President does not need to be a security, foreign policy or economy expert, that's what advisers are for. The only requirement for being the president(except the official ones like being being an US citizen, at least 35 years old etc.) is being able to lead. Both Sarah Palin and Obama have already proved they are able to inspire people and remain calm & confident under extreme pressure. That is why they are both qualified.
Yes, Palin is a risky choice. There is a risk that her lack of high quality education will prevent her from making the best decisions for the American people or that she will try to force her radical social views on the society. But it's not like Obama isn't a possibly problematic choice either. His economic views are based on an intellectual tradition that is basically Marxist in nature. Wealth redistribution, class envy, welfare state....those are bad concepts that failed everywhere around the world. And what do you think will happen when the bad guys find out that the POTUS won't use military force no matter what?
In any case I'm done here. Kudos for an attempt to have a civilized discussion and to actually find out what the "other side" has to say.
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#365827 - 10/08/08 11:00 AM
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As always you bring up a valid point my friend, but is McCain (or any other politician for that matter) any more trustworthy? I'll openly admit that I don't know Obama's stance on the adult industry, but I do know that the current administration has made my life (and I'm sure many other's lives in the industry) a living hell.
I guess I'm just suprised that so many people that are on here and involved with, or at the very least, are interested in porn would think that electing someone who voted with Bush so often would make a better candidate than Obama.
I'm willing to wager that at least 80% of my co-workers are Obama supporters, and then I come here and there's soooo much McCain love. Just somewhat surprising to me.
Well, again, in most cases I don't think it's so much "McCain love" as distrust of Obama. I certainly don't love McCain, and I don't plan on voting for either of them, which makes this the first time in 20 years I'm not reflexively pulling the lever for the Democrat.
Regarding the adult industry, I haven't heard either candidate say anything about it during the campaign. I do know that McCain and the Jesus wing of the Republican party hate each other immensely, and the likelihood any of them are appointed to positions of responsibility is pretty low. (The likelyhood that they would be confirmed by an overwhelmingly Democratic Senate is almost nil.)
Again, the bone that was thrown to the Jeebus freaks was Palin, and she got what has historically been a do-nothing job. She's going to spend the next four years saying stupid shit and dedicating bridges. Unless you seriously think that McCain, Obama or any future President is going to give their Veep the kind of power the current Jackass gave Cheney...
Both of these idiots scare me. The fact that the Crazy Old Man scares me less than the Hopeless Naif (particularly on world issues) isn't enough for me to vote for him, though. Both of them ducked issues and seemed hesitant at times during last nights debate. I suppose I criticize Obama more than McCain, but that's mostly because I have yet to see anyone suggesting that McCain can walk on water, make Da Burglar walk, or shut Sasha Grey's mouth.
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#365829 - 10/08/08 01:19 PM
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I'm certainly not a McCain/Palin supporter or apologist, but political views aside, isn't she at least as qualified as Obama?
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#365830 - 10/08/08 01:34 PM
Re: Obama Supporters -- Why Joe Biden is a Good Th
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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Indeed she is. The major difference between her and Obama is that she hasn't been campaigning for President for the last two years.
Edit: by difference I mean differences in how each appears qualified.
Edited by Bornyo (10/08/08 01:36 PM)
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#365831 - 10/08/08 02:23 PM
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She outright said she believes Cheney's role has been appropriate, and sounds like she feels the position needs more power.
Ummm... No.
Please show me where in the in the statements you quoted she says "she believes Cheney's role has been appropriate." She did not.
What she said was that she hopes to help "administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation."
As for what that means, or what "flexibility" means, it means doing what the President tells you to do. Same as it did for every other Veep. And the notion that McCain is going to give her anything of consequence to do is a little far fetched.
While we're on the subject of Vice Presidential "flexibility," I'd like to point out that Clinton had Al Gore doing more than any Vice President before him.
As for sounding "like she feels the position needs more power," I believe these folks can hook you up with some nifty tin-foil hats.
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#365832 - 10/08/08 02:24 PM
Re: Obama Supporters -- Why Joe Biden is a Good Th
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Indeed she is. The major difference between her and Obama is that she hasn't been campaigning for President for the last two years.
Edit: by difference I mean differences in how each appears qualified.
I agree, although I would have said the last four years, since he addressed the 2004 Convention.
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#365833 - 10/08/08 02:28 PM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/07
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Dak'kon wrote: Quote:
... The only requirement for being the president... is being able to lead. Both Sarah Palin and Obama have already proved they are able to inspire people and remain calm & confident under extreme pressure. That is why they are both qualified.
This is well-said, imo. Leadership and inspiration are important for a president. I know it sounds kinda lame, but I really think this matters more than experience and/or knowledge.
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...an intellectual tradition that is basically Marxist in nature. Wealth redistribution, class envy, welfare state....those are bad concepts that failed everywhere around the world.
This is not so well-said, imo. It's simply not true.
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#365834 - 10/08/08 02:29 PM
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Porn Jesus
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And unlike the two candidates for President and the other V.P. candidate she is not a standing member of the Congress with the lowest public approval rating in history.
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#365835 - 10/08/08 02:51 PM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Isn't Gigi a Republican?
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I remember someone here is in whichever conversation they were having and I think Gigi said she is.
wha?
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#365837 - 10/11/08 04:26 AM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Porn Fucking Master
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bitch can barely read. she got like 850 on the SATs!
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#365840 - 10/14/08 12:53 AM
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Porn Jesus
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^  HAHAHAHAH.
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#365841 - 10/14/08 04:36 AM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/09/08
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I got my journalism degree in 3 years, on full scholarship, and I'm not very smart. It took her, what, six schools and she wanted to go into sportscasting, which took her a million years as well?
Qualifications? Where?
She blows. BLOWS. And if she were a man, EVERYONE would say so.
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#365842 - 10/14/08 10:05 AM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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If she were a man...
...she'd be the presidential candidate of the DNC.
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#365843 - 10/14/08 10:39 AM
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Obama is a smart guy, spunko. Definitely smarter then Palin.
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#365846 - 10/19/08 02:53 PM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Porn Jesus
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I was wondering:
1. Is Palin still in office as Governor of Alaska during the campaign?
2. If the GOP fails to win the election, does she go back automatically to her position as Governor?
Thanks!
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#365847 - 10/19/08 02:59 PM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Porn Jesus
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Not positive, but I think "yes" is the answer to both questions.
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#365848 - 10/19/08 05:12 PM
Re: Republicans- Why Sara Palin is a Good Thing?
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Porn Jesus
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Thanks for the quick reply, mate.
In my opinion, this is not right. But what do you, The People, think?
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#365849 - 10/19/08 05:22 PM
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Porn Jesus
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For example:
As far as jobs go one is allowed to run for president and still keep their other job, look at Hillary, she is still a senator. And she continued to be a senator during the campaign.
I'm not sure that the same sort of thing can work for a governor. Though I think it can.
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#365850 - 10/19/08 05:41 PM
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^^^ Yes. She still has two years left in her term, so she doesn't have to step down.
Obama also has two years left in his term. So does McCain. Both return to their seats if defeated.
Joe Biden's term expires in January. However, Delaware and a handful of other states (Texas and Connecticut, maybe others) allow a person to run for two offices simultaneously provided that one of those offices is President or Vice President. I believe that Texas was the first state to allow this, in 1960, for LBJ.
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#365852 - 10/19/08 06:34 PM
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I didn't mind it when Lieberman ran in 2000, so it would be pretty hypocritical of me to oppose it in Biden's case.
But, to address Freestylah's point, if politicians weren't permitted to hold on to the offices they currently hold while seeking higher office, the choice of candidates would be even more dismal than it is now, since nobody would want to risk their current seat.
This would only serve to further entrench the lifers in Congress and grind what little progress there is to a halt.
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#365853 - 10/20/08 05:22 AM
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Porn Jesus
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That's very negative thinking, Jim, though I see what you mean.
I don't have a problem with a senator running for (vice-)president. However, a governor is part of the 'executive' branch (even though elected). Things to consider: Who runs the state at the moment? If the state runs itself, abolish governors. Besides, you dupe the electorate by running for another office in mid-term. There are other, policy-related, issues as well.
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#365854 - 10/20/08 05:38 AM
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However, a governor is part of the 'executive' branch
On the State level, not the federal level. And she's hardly the first sitting Governor to run. Remember Clinton (and I voted for him twice.)
Does it really "dupe the people?" I don't think so. I mean, are they running in secret or something? Nor do I recall any major or even minor outcry over the issue.
I suppose there may be a handful of folks to lazy to look up when a politicians term ends, but it seems to me that if they've been "duped," they've done it to themselves.
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#365855 - 10/20/08 07:25 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Okay. I'm not familiar with the differences between State and Federal. It's very different from what is common in Europe.
By 'duping people' I mean following. She runs for Governor of Alaska, which office has a 4-year term. People elect her and should be able to count on 4 years of Palin. Now, she might leave office after serving 2 years. In my eyes, that makes her pretty unreliable.
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#365856 - 10/20/08 07:32 AM
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It's common practice here for both parties. Almost to be expected. Especially between the State Houses and the Senate.
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#365857 - 10/20/08 09:40 AM
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That's very negative thinking, Jim, though I see what you mean.
It occurs to me that what passed for political idealism in this country was mortally wounded November 22, 1963. It tried to recover, took a turn for the worse between April and June of 1968 and finally expired August 9, 1974.
That "tingling in the leg" Chris Matthews feels seems analogous to the sensation many amputees experience, when they "feel" their missing limbs.
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