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#365213 - 10/05/08 09:38 PM Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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#365214 - 10/05/08 10:16 PM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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very negative




I'd say "I'm surprised", but I'd be lying. they're probably preaching to the choir anyway. I doubt there are too many people, not left of center, waiting with baited breath for the newest volume of RS looking for unbiased political coverage.



"His calmness is reflected in the smooth and controlled campaign he is overseeing. In conversation, his thoughtfulness is punctuated by an easy wit, much as his clockwork campaign is a stage for his eloquence and charismatic gifts as a leader.

I am often asked, "What's he like?" If you really want to know, read Dreams From My Father. It's all in there, and it's a wonderful piece of writing in its own right.

When we are done, his parting words are delivered with a dazzling smile: "OK, brother — take care.""

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#365215 - 10/05/08 10:26 PM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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I quit reading Rolling Stone about the time I quit filing the 1040EZ... a long time ago.

I did buy the big anniversary issue with the 3d cover and give it to my failed hippy father a couple years ago, though.

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#365216 - 10/05/08 10:57 PM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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Random, did you read the article in the New Times about McCain by Amy Silverman? I remember the incident with Barry Goldwater, tho I was just a foolish Brophy boy at the time.

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#365217 - 10/06/08 02:15 AM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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Anyone remember the McCain R.S. cover story back around 2000 when he was going up against Bush? They didn't consider him to be a monster back then. Expecting Rolling Stone to do a story that is fair and unbiased to Republicans is like expecting Joan Crawford to write a story that is fair and unbiased to wire hangers.
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#365218 - 10/06/08 08:16 AM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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Yeah RS is skewed to a college aged crowd. A lot of these issues about McSame's past are already out there and are coming out.

Three crashes early in his career led Navy officials to question or fault his judgment.


McCain08 is failing massively and there is no reason to believe he is going to somehow rescue his campaign in the debates. Because of this you can expect them to get even deeper in the character attacks. I am glad to see the other side fighting back in the character wars because McCain has a lot in his past that would have been brought out by now if he was on the other side and which i am sure were by Rush and company when he was running against bush in 00.


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#365219 - 10/06/08 11:34 AM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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A lot of these issues about McSame's past are already out there and are coming out.





Correct, which leads me to this question: What does pro-Obama pundit-touting have to do with John McCain the man and his record? Can McCain and his record not stand alone? Must his record never be judged as simply what it is -- a clear and definitive tally of the legislative decisions he's made to date -- and nothing more?

The arguments that Obama is too liberal and that he lacks the experience one would need to run the U.S. are very fair, and, rightfully, he's had to spend the better part of this campaign season addressing them. And, of course, Reverend Wright. All fair game, and he should be forced to address the Wright issue in particular till he's horse and blue (or more purple) in the face.

I get why conservatives are annoyed with the unrelenting pro-Obama (pro-blank slate) press coverage, I really do. I lean left, and even I’m annoyed by it. Still, McCain and his record should get a free pass because a number of pundits and a shitload of easily moved, starry-eyed college students happen to be secreting love juice all over themselves in support of the black guy with big ears? Seems a little ridiculous.

And don't even get me started on that nutbar Palin.

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Random, did you read the article in the New Times about McCain by Amy Silverman? I remember the incident with Barry Goldwater, tho I was just a foolish Brophy boy at the time.




I did not. You got a link?
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#365220 - 10/06/08 12:45 PM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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The bottom line is while McCain might be fine as pres if there were no alternative (arguably couldn't get any worse than now), under no circumstances can we have a glorified PTA mom so close to sitting in the president's chair were McCain to suddenly grab his chest and collapse in the first term, or fall out of remission.

People don't seem to realize enough that it's really TWO people running for president on the McCain ticket: McCain and Palin. It's not merely a standard Pres/Vice Pres arrangement due to John's age and medical issues.

She got 16 hour-a-day intensive coaching by a team to prep and rehearse her talking points for the recent debate and now many actually believe the Katie Couric interview was just an anomaly. If ever there was a manchurian candidate, she is it. Oh how I'd love to see video of those cram sessions - those brave souls trying to get her up to speed on the last 16 years of political history and world events; her tutors pulling her hair out with each blank stare from her that begs to know "when do I get ta go home, ya know?".

George W. has long had the bad rap for being 'dumb' with a blank chimp stare. However he's Einstein standing next to Palin. Not because she's a woman (I was for Hillary) but because she has that dumb stare like a garden variety real estate agent that won't STFU and C.ant U.nderstand N.ormal T.hinking

Therefore Palin makes the decision easy - my vote will be the anti-Palin vote.

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#365221 - 10/06/08 01:44 PM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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Palin is smart. She is new to national issues, and a right wing nut job. But she isn't stupid.

Shows what kind of people would be in positions of authority and responsibility in a McCain administration

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#365222 - 10/07/08 06:50 AM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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Palin is smart. She is new to national issues, and a right wing nut job. But she isn't stupid.




Yes, you're right. She read her notecards wonderfully at the debate, too bad she didn't answer any questions directly.
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#365223 - 10/07/08 01:03 PM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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Yes, you're right. She read her notecards wonderfully at the debate, too bad she didn't answer any questions directly.




Debate rules prohibited candidates from bringing any pre-prepared material with them.
Only blank paper and writing utensils were provided.

Here's the link http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/palin_didnt_read_preprepared_a.php


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#365224 - 10/07/08 01:12 PM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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[belaborator]Palin had her responses beamed directly into her head via the Rove Labs Project-O-Matic 9000™. They've spent the last eight years testing it on Dubya.[/belaborator]

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#365225 - 10/10/08 10:09 PM Re: Make-Believe Maverick: R.S. McCain Article
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This chunk is amusing:

"Even his friends seemed to dislike him, with one recalling him as "a mean little fucker."

McCain was not only a lousy student, he had his father's taste for drink and a darkly misogynistic streak. The summer after his sophomore year, cruising with a friend near Arlington, McCain tried to pick up a pair of young women. When they laughed at him, he cursed them so vilely that he was hauled into court on a profanity charge."

McCain in '08: "I'm a mean little fucker!"

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