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#35935 - 07/07/04 05:51 AM Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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June 29, 2004
US-CERT: Beware of IE
By Ryan Naraine


The U.S. government's Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT) is warning Web surfers to stop using Microsoft's Internet Explorer (IE) browser.

On the heels of last week's sophisticated malware attack that targeted a known IE flaw, US-CERT updated an earlier advisory to recommend the use of alternative browsers because of "significant vulnerabilities" in technologies embedded in IE.

"There are a number of significant vulnerabilities in technologies relating to the IE domain/zone security model, the DHTML object model, MIME-type determination, and ActiveX. It is possible to reduce exposure to these vulnerabilities by using a different Web browser, especially when browsing untrusted sites," US-CERT noted in a vulnerability note.

The latest US-CERT position comes at a crucial time for Microsoft , which has invested heavily to add secure browsing technologies in the coming Windows XP Service Pack 2. The software giant has spent the last few months talking up the coming IE security improvements but the slow response to patching well-known -- and sometimes "critical" -- browser holes isn't sitting well with security experts.

On discussion lists and message boards, security researchers have spent a lot of time beating the "Dump IE" drum, and the US-CERT notice is sure to lend credibility to the movement away from the world's most popular browser.

US-CERT is a non-profit partnership between the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the public and private sectors. It was established in September 2003 to improve computer security preparedness and response to cyber attacks in the United States.

It has been more than two weeks since Microsoft confirmed the existence on an "extremely critical" IE bug, which was being used to load adware/spyware and malware on PCs without user intervention but, even though the company hinted it would go outside its monthly security update cycle to issue a fix, the flaw remains unpatched.

US-CERT researchers say the IE browser does not adequately validate the security context of a frame that has been redirected by a Web server. It opens the door for an attacker to exploit the flaw by executing script in different security domains.

"By causing script to be evaluated in the Local Machine Zone, the attacker could execute arbitrary code with the privileges of the user running IE," according to the advisory.

"Functional exploit code is publicly available, and there are reports of incidents involving this vulnerability."

To protect against the flaw, IE users are urged to disable Active scripting and ActiveX controls in the Internet Zone (or any zone used by an attacker). Other temporary workarounds include the application of the Outlook e-mail security update; the use of plain-text e-mails and the use of anti-virus software.

Surfers must also get into the habit of not clicking on unsolicited URLs from e-mail, instant messages, Web forums or internet relay chat (IRC) sessions.
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#35936 - 07/07/04 05:52 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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It amuses me that after Microsoft convincing the world/govt/etc that the browser needed to be integrated into the operating system, and thereby killing off most of the competition (or at least marginalizing them), now the world is realizing Internet Explorer is a pile of trash leaving us open to all kinds of viruses and spyware etc.

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#35937 - 07/07/04 06:05 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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I don't see why anyone would risk using IE anymore.

But, for the most part, it is what people know. The computer illiterate person who got the puter to have some fun with email doesn't know any better.

I use Mozilla, but even Opera is better than IE.

I am using a family member's puter right now, and it has IE. She just had a trojan(cough) virus last week that she picked up from simply surfing a page.



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#35938 - 07/07/04 08:54 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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Hey toelicker, do you like opera better than mozilla? If I am using Mozilla is there any reason to even try Opera?
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#35939 - 07/07/04 09:03 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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Opera is cool, but it doesn't have certain features I need, like Google and yahoo toolbars.
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#35940 - 07/07/04 09:08 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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So what do you use Zen?
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#35941 - 07/07/04 09:14 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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I was gonna change my browser anyway anyone use Netscape lately? I haven't since I was on OS2 Warp (yes, that was a long time ago).

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#35942 - 07/07/04 09:21 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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I used to use netscape Have2 but then I got turned onto Mozilla which unless I am mistaken is just like netscape but with less clutter( does netscape actually use the mozilla structure?)
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#35943 - 07/07/04 09:23 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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So what do you use Zen?




I use Firefox .9 for almost everything. There arethings that don't work for some reason, the occasional streaming site, eg, but otherwise it's a kick ass browser.
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#35944 - 07/07/04 10:19 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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I might give firefox a shot, Opera looks cool but seems like it is too fancy... Mozilla on the other hand makes me feel like I'm still livin in 1996 - it is so old school looking.

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#35945 - 07/07/04 10:22 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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Most sites that don't work with Mozilla are sending bogus HTML. The streaming video thing is probably a WMV sending a "plain text" tag.

No browser does all pages correctly. I have about as many problems with IE as Mozilla.
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#35946 - 07/07/04 10:45 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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It amuses me that after Microsoft convincing the world/govt/etc that the browser needed to be integrated into the operating system, and thereby killing off most of the competition (or at least marginalizing them), now the world is realizing Internet Explorer is a pile of trash leaving us open to all kinds of viruses and spyware etc.



Indeed it is because of this integration that IE is so slow to fix. Were IE a stand-alone app a fix could be done for most of this within minutes, but when integrated a fix might bring down the whole house of cards somewhere else. Indeed as a sofware/OS hack I bet that they don't have any way to know if a fix is OK without weeks of testing. Integration means changes can have global affects more easily.

I've lost count of the number of IE bugs in the last week; three at least. There's an update for one now, but the consensus seems to be even that one isn't fixed.

I don't run IE any more except for Windows update. It's too risky, especially with those "Microsoft" certs in the wild able to sign fake Microsoft authentication onto ActiveX and who knows what else.

PS. During the browser wars MS hyped that Netscape's monolithic architecture was inferior to IE's modular approach, which is true even though MS said it. Now by integrating MS has finally proven that modular really is better (integration makes a monolith of sorts out of the OS).
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#35947 - 07/07/04 10:49 AM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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I might give firefox a shot, Opera looks cool but seems like it is too fancy... Mozilla on the other hand makes me feel like I'm still livin in 1996 - it is so old school looking.



And IE has modernized in the last decade?

In Mozilla go to Edit->Preferences then Appearance->Themes and click on Get New Themes
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#35948 - 07/07/04 12:03 PM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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Hey toelicker, do you like opera better than mozilla? If I am using Mozilla is there any reason to even try Opera?




I like Mozilla Firefox better. Like Zenman, I use it for almost everything.

Opera is alright, but the free version has too many ads. It's still a better idea than IE, though.


If you are using Mozilla and like it, then no, I wouldn't even bother with Opera.
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#35949 - 07/08/04 08:12 PM Re: Microsoft eating a shit sandwich?
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My commodore 64 still works goodly.
i have no idea whats going on..


Edited by slartibartfast (07/08/04 08:12 PM)
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