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#351765 - 08/09/08 07:16 PM if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an escort
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Would you do it? Or refuse?
Or would you get worried?!

I'd think anyone with this kind of money to blow is 2 hours is likely to be some CEO earning hundreds of times the average wage so another thought would be that if they can afford to spend this kind of money then they'd likely be able to afford a whole lot more

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#351766 - 08/09/08 08:13 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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I'll pay you $2.83 an hr to eat my shit while doing my taxes.
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#351767 - 08/09/08 10:45 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an escort
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Would you do it? Or refuse?
Or would you get worried?!

I'd think anyone with this kind of money to blow is 2 hours is likely to be some CEO earning hundreds of times the average wage so another thought would be that if they can afford to spend this kind of money then they'd likely be able to afford a whole lot more




Wouldn't that make the aceptee a whore?

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#351768 - 08/10/08 04:31 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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hey douchebag, if you are going to talk about the story i posted on my blog, at least fucking link to it.....

http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/08/naughty-america.html
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#351769 - 08/10/08 08:05 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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#351770 - 08/10/08 10:21 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
Uncle Joe Offline
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hey douchebag, if you are going to talk about the story i posted on my blog, at least fucking link to it.....

http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/08/naughty-america.html



I started going to the gym and I followed your advice from the ADT Podcast about Zinc, Saw Palmetto and Tribulus.

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#351771 - 08/10/08 10:24 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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hey douchebag, if you are going to talk about the story i posted on my blog, at least fucking link to it.....

http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/08/naughty-america.html




Come on Christian, who was it? She turned it down you can tell us.
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#351772 - 08/10/08 02:50 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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I started going to the gym and I followed your advice from the ADT Podcast about Zinc, Saw Palmetto and Tribulus.




Why don't you follow MY advice about not stuffing your fat fucking face with 'sammies' and '10X' burgers?
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#351773 - 08/10/08 02:52 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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hey douchebag, if you are going to talk about the story i posted on my blog, at least fucking link to it.....

http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/08/naughty-america.html




He's too busy rushing of to his second job so he can afford to pay $400 dollars for some worn out flip flops and used tampons.
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#351775 - 08/10/08 05:36 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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Quote:

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I started going to the gym and I followed your advice from the ADT Podcast about Zinc, Saw Palmetto and Tribulus.




Why don't you follow MY advice about not stuffing your fat fucking face with 'sammies' and '10X' burgers?



Because you are too fucking skinny, borderline Aushwitz.

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#351776 - 08/10/08 06:50 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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I don't think five foot eight, 155 lbs it too skinny. But then again, Ron Jeremy probably looks skinny to you...


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#351777 - 08/10/08 08:19 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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I don't think five foot eight, 155 lbs it too skinny. But then again, Ron Jeremy probably looks skinny to you...



You are skinny.

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#351778 - 08/11/08 12:38 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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no, you are fat...
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#351779 - 08/11/08 11:18 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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hey douchebag, if you are going to talk about the story i posted on my blog, at least fucking link to it.....

http://cwians.typepad.com/christian_sings_the_blues/2008/08/naughty-america.html




I can't really pretend to care much about Christian's wellbeing. Secondly I'm not licensed to practice law in California. However if Christian was to talk to his legal counsel of choice, they would probably mention that he has admitted to engaging in a conspiracy to procure an escort for what most people would infer to be sexual acts. Since there was no filming involved he cannot use the standard excuse used by the industry. That this was "acting" and not prostitution.

Note: Under most conspiracy statutes, Christian would not have to personally benefit from the alleged crime, he would only have had to have taken an overt act to promote the criminal action.

Now I am sure you can find all kinds of rationalizations for why this would not be considered a crime. "Even though it was for $10,000 I couldn't infer that a sexual act was part of this transaction your honor!"

Bottom line: this would be a loser of a case in front of any jury given your admission against interest, and let me say, professional background.

Never mind, please carry on, and place porn law on a retainer, I think you'll need him if you decide to help escort agencies line up talent. After all if the head of this agency was arrested, they would never roll over on you Christian to receive a lighter sentence. Nope, I've never seen it happen.




Oh fuck off. This happens every single day with porn chicks. People should never go to jail over consensual sex between adults. Regardless of payment for services or not.
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#351780 - 08/11/08 11:48 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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^^ I must have posted this George Carlin quote a dozen times already but it keeps being appropriate:

"Selling is legal. Fucking is legal. Why is selling fucking illegal?"
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#351782 - 08/11/08 05:29 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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Interesting thread...and Paperchase is right...

Actually Christian's behavior could also be considered pandering. A lawyer that I know of decided to spend his first summer as a lawyer working at a hotel resort pool in Vegas. He was approached by a couple of undercover "high rollers," either FBI or LVPD with a request that the lawyer help them secure some "entertainment" for later that night. Sex was never discussed. He set them up with a couple of pros and got popped for pandering as well as other charges. I do not know whether he received a percentage or whether he just got a sizeable tip. Either way, he got to spend a night in jail and will now have to face trial or plea to a lesser crime.
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#351783 - 08/11/08 06:02 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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Very smart C3X, taking unnecessary risks when you have a lot of enemies like Donkey Lonkey, easy he or other of your haters can send a copy of your post to authorities




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#351784 - 08/11/08 06:03 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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Seems to me unless "sex" was specifically mentioned and/or the person involved in the brokering of the talent knowingly chooses whores-for-hire, how could they legally get them on pandering?
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#351785 - 08/11/08 07:10 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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Quote:

Seems to me unless "sex" was specifically mentioned and/or the person involved in the brokering of the talent knowingly chooses whores-for-hire, how could they legally get them on pandering?




Well, this is what he actually said:

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Now for my weird/strange story of the night. A few facts to start off with:


1. There are about 3 escort agencies in LA that book mostly porn stars


2. I know the girls who run all three of them


3. I know almost all of the girls in the business and if I don't have their phone number, I can get it.


4. Sometimes the girls who run the escort agencies ask me to find a girl for them about a job escorting.


So tonight, one of the agencies called me to find out if a certain porn star would do a 2 hour job for 4,000 dollars, minus 1200 for the agency. While I was getting the girl's number to text her about the job, the pay got raised to 5,000, then 6,000. I told the porn star 6,000 dollars for 2 hours (minus 1800 for the agency) and THE PORN STAR SAID NO! I actually applaud her for standing up for something no matter the price. Then the agency gets me on the phone and says the guy will pay 10,000 dollars for 2 hours, I told them that they should call the porn star, not me. She calls her and the porn star AGAIN SAYS NO! Holy shit, she just turned down 10,000 dollars for 2 hours. Now that's fucking insane! We were both pretty dumbfounded. But I guess she has her reasons.






LINK


In some jurisdictions, where the authorities have a lot less real crime to worry about, they might try the "accessory" angle. Maybe try to squeeze him to roll on the "girl" (if that's what he's calling Derek these days) who asked him to intervene.

Unless there was some kind of interstate angle (which would bring involve Bush's DOJ) I don't see the LA authorities bothering. He doesn't mention taking a commission (not absolutely necessary, but it would help a prosecution) and he uses the weasel words "I actually applaud her for standing up for something no matter the price."

Still not a good idea to go wagging one's tongue about it, though.

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#351786 - 08/11/08 08:06 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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Nope idiot, I wasn't arguing whether prostitution should be legal, I'm pointing out that is is likely that under current law, that Christian is un-necessarily running a risk, by 1) engaging in such behavior and 2) by admitting, in writing that he is helping to line up escorts.

Hmm, remember when the FBI stupidly wasted thousands of hours of manpower arresting a brothel owner in New Orleans. But perhaps the women that run these escort services in LA have some sort of "get out of legal trouble" with the city, state, and feds card, and will never be arrested like that madam in D.C., or the ring in New York that was involved in the Spitzer case.

Remember Christian, that if you ever get into trouble you can tell the judge "People should never go to jail over consensual sex between adults. Regardless of payment for services or not."






You can spin it however you want, but you were being a smartass prick and I called you on it. I wasn't making a comment on the legality of his situation.

So stop being a douchebag.
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#351787 - 08/11/08 08:09 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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ben started this thread here and at adt. As it winds down on both sites he needs to summarize what he learned.

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#351788 - 08/11/08 08:24 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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The fucked up part of this all is when a whore escorts, we're all over it like white on rice. But when a whore says outright that she WILL NOT hook, a nigga can't get a name to applaud her for it.

Goddam.
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#351790 - 08/12/08 12:55 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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you guys are hilarious.....there aren't any names attached to this at all. what if i told them it was a figment of my imagination? how can they get me to name a name at all? give me fucking break....if they want to come get me.....go ahead.

hey christian tell us who anonymous porn star X is. and anonymous madam Y. and anonymous madam Z. what are they going to do, lean on me for doing what exactly? I have never been arrested and have no record.
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#351791 - 08/12/08 12:57 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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You really are a douchebag. I stated that I wasn't commenting on the legality of his situation. So you reply with a rambling post on how a jury would view his situation.

My point is, again, since you seem to be slow.... stop being a dick.

Unfortunately that seems to be beyond your ability.
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#351794 - 08/13/08 02:33 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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Quote:

Quote:

you guys are hilarious.....there aren't any names attached to this at all. what if i told them it was a figment of my imagination? how can they get me to name a name at all? give me fucking break....if they want to come get me.....go ahead.

hey christian tell us who anonymous porn star X is. and anonymous madam Y. and anonymous madam Z. what are they going to do, lean on me for doing what exactly? I have never been arrested and have no record.




Simple.

1) Use your blog entry to get a warrant for your cell phone, and regular phone records.

2) Seize your computer, and examine it for incriminating private e-mail.

3) trace the phone numbers to the people you called that evening.

I could go on.




LOL, for a pandering charge? in los angeles? give me a break. there is a better chance of the donkey winning an AVN award....puhleez
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#351795 - 08/13/08 03:43 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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Maybe not but I am sure a couple of asses win every year!

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LOL, for a pandering charge? in los angeles? give me a break. there is a better chance of the donkey winning an AVN award....puhleez



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#351797 - 08/13/08 06:15 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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For a more extreme example, consider the fate of Abe "Kid Twist" Reles:






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#351798 - 08/13/08 06:57 PM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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LOL, for a pandering charge? in los angeles? give me a break. there is a better chance of the donkey winning an AVN award....puhleez




I actually know a bartender who got a pandering charge in LA. It was right before the Olympics and the cops were cleaning house and runnin' bums outta town on busses. He was just working his shift and some random dude asked him if he thought the girl at the end of the bar was a pro. He shrugged in some way and the cop cited him for pandering. At least, that's the version he told us.
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#351799 - 08/14/08 03:32 AM Re: if you're offered $10,000 for 2 hours as an es
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ben started this thread here and at adt. As it winds down on both sites he needs to summarize what he learned.




I don't know...I've been a bit distracted lately by Kitty's awesome new boobs!!!





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