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#348119 - 07/28/08 01:42 PM Serious Question
christianxxx Offline
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I have a serious question that I would love to know the medical answer to. As in proof or a concrete answer, rather than conjecture or prejudice. I value your opinions on this forum more so than others, because I think you guys speak more freely on the subject.

Here is my question....

is there a medical difference in the risk of transmitting HIV from male-male anal sex vs. male-female anal sex.

assuming i work with a female who is HIV positive and have anal sex vs. working with a male who is HIV positive and have anal sex....am I more likely to catch HIV from either gender or is it the exact same risk? Is that scenario clear enough to decipher?

Flame away if you wish, but I would love to hear actual factual answers if possible. Thanks for your help.
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#348120 - 07/28/08 01:46 PM Re: Serious Question
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Are you giving or receiving?
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#348121 - 07/28/08 02:04 PM Re: Serious Question
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the most danger is always to the receptive partner. the partner giving has a much lower risk always, minus any open sores on his cock. so technically... male-male, and male female carry the same lowered risk to the pitcher and the same extremely heightened risk to the catcher.
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#348122 - 07/28/08 02:10 PM Re: Serious Question
christianxxx Offline
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we are talking about pitching not catching
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#348123 - 07/28/08 02:29 PM Re: Serious Question
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well, assuming a control factor of both choices in partners are HIV+, then the risk is equivalent. No difference in the chances of infection, which are... while greater than none.. still small in the great scheme of infectiousness. Its still like playing russian roulette, you just have have one bullet rather than the 4-5 you would have on the other end. Now if you had an open sore on your cock, which would then guarantee direct bloodstream contact with the infected persons blood... your risk increases exponentially.

now if you were asking amongnst general population, and assuming an unknown partner status, then statistically your risk would be higher with the male as gay males are a demographic with a higher rate of infection. Of course we can also break that down into race too, as african americans also have a higher rate of infection, and locality can be a issue as well. Unprotected anal sex with a black woman from haiti vs a white male from Phoenix... youre safer statistically with the guy.

of course your question was based on a known status... so that last paragraph was irrelevant, but just used to answer a possible followup hypothetical in that particular vein, and point out the many different factors at play.
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#348124 - 07/28/08 02:54 PM Re: Serious Question
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
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Registered: 10/21/05
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Medically or biologically, there's no difference. An ass is an ass is an ass.

But as has been pointed out, especially with regards to work, you are crossing over into (or have previously been active in) talent pools which have a higher potential risk/incidence of HIV transmission.

Of course, when we factor in circus acts like double anal with internal popshots, then the risk of anal tears which greatly facilitate transmission are much greater as well, regardless of the gender or orientation of the performers. Added to this, when you are going to 'developing' countries to shoot so that you can lowball your production costs, then you might as well be playing Russian Roulette with five rounds and one empty chamber.

What is bizarre to me is this: John Stagliano caught HIV after being anally creampied by a tranny in Brazil.. Ergo, Evil Angel banned the shooting of anal creampies by the directors it distributes (which is why there was much rejoicing from anal creampie enthusiasts when Erik Everhard made the leap over to JJV, where no such restriction is in place). Yet bizarrely, no such edict was made about shooting trannies or shooting in Brazil.

The act in and of itself is not risky (if both performers are HIV free), but when the factors of tranny talent pool (a pool which can both pitch and catch, hence the raised risk) and third world location are figured in, the risk goes through the roof...that's why nobody is in a rush to go and shoot bareback double anal creampies in Uganda or Mozambique.

The short answer is: The map is not the territory. It's all very well to indulge in blue sky hypothetical arguments along the lines of 'All things being equal...', but the fact of the matter is that all things are not equal...there are mitigating circumstances to be taken onboard, hence the quasi-pariah status of active crossover performers such as yourself.

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#348125 - 07/28/08 03:00 PM Re: Serious Question
Anonymous
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The map is not the territory.




Nor is the menu the meal.

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#348126 - 07/28/08 03:03 PM Re: Serious Question
Wendy Williams Offline
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So Dan I have a question? So you think that because I am a tranny that I should be "banned" like Evil Angel did anal creampies? I am having a hard time finding the logic!

I can understand your logic with shooting in Brazil but when you say "tranny" in general then I have a problem.

As a transsexual Performer HERE IN THE U.S, I am tested via A.I.M before shooting SO with that being said its hard for me to follow the logic that because transsexuals in Brazil are a higher risk than ALL tranny shoots should be banned!

Just trying to understand thats all, not here to argue or be rude!
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#348127 - 07/28/08 04:04 PM Re: Serious Question
Darrah Offline
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Anal sex with either sex is dangerous and serious risk for HIV. That's why many women prefer only doing girl/girl in porn.

But you have these ignorant religious girls back home in their small towns proclaiming they are still virgins all because they don't have vaginal sex but they do everything else - oral and anal. Just because they can't get pregnant that way. But that's the most risky way of transmitting STDs. A few years ago I was watching this PBS documentary on this affluent small town that caught the CDC's attention for the highest rate of STDs in the country among junior high and high school students as young as 10 years old. They had sex parties and gang bangs mixed with drugs and alcohol (several were rape) but the girls still proclaimed they were virgins because they didn't have vaginal sex. But those were the girls and boys that had now had STDs and they hadn't graduated high school yet.

Just use a condom and you'll be able to sleep better at night. Does another HIV outbreak have to happen again for the industry to open their eyes?



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#348128 - 07/28/08 04:10 PM Re: Serious Question
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we are talking about pitching not catching




If you are pitching the risk is the same regardless of the sex of the catcher. However if you are carrying any STD's your risk is increased. HPV and Herpes virus are said to be rampant in the adult biz. I'm sure you are more knowledgeable about that than I am. But assuming you have contracted the herpes virus and are having unprotected sex with gay men, then you are playing Russian roulette. That's just based upon statistical data on the rate of infection in the gay community.
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#348129 - 07/28/08 04:11 PM Re: Serious Question
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Just use a condom and you'll be able to sleep better at night. Does another HIV outbreak have to happen again for the industry to open their eyes?







could you please be patient zero? ill go collect some dirty syringes and we can play a little game till it happens... since you getting fucked to catch it is too much of a pipe dream.

lets make this simple.... shut. the. fuck. up.



your uneducated opinion on ... well anything just isnt desired.
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#348130 - 07/28/08 04:13 PM Re: Serious Question
Bornyo Offline
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your uneducated opinion on ... well anything just isnt desired.




Hey Rob, who's your favorite NBA star, past or present?

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#348131 - 07/28/08 04:16 PM Re: Serious Question
Darrah Offline
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your uneducated opinion on ... well anything just isnt desired.



Uneducated people watch PBS documentaries?


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#348132 - 07/28/08 04:23 PM Re: Serious Question
Jigaloo Offline
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Darthrah I hope you die you rotten cunt. You're a fucking insider all of a sudden?
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#348133 - 07/28/08 04:25 PM Re: Serious Question
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Quote:

Quote:

your uneducated opinion on ... well anything just isnt desired.



Uneducated people watch PBS documentaries?




You only watch them because you're poor and can't afford cable and only get the broadcast networks with bunny ears.
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#348134 - 07/28/08 04:25 PM Re: Serious Question
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Quote:

Quote:


your uneducated opinion on ... well anything just isnt desired.




Hey Rob, who's your favorite NBA star, past or present?




can't answer... dont watch basketball... not gonna chime in on something i know nothing about... unlike some bloggers we know.

ok, now that thats out of the way i'll just say Larry Bird, only white guy i could think of.
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#348135 - 07/28/08 04:29 PM Re: Serious Question
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Quote:

Quote:

your uneducated opinion on ... well anything just isnt desired.



Uneducated people watch PBS documentaries?






CORRECT!
educated people read books, maybe experience the hings they speak of... and look at both sides for fucks sake... rather than go easy mode and watch a PBS documentary slanted toward the popular version of events .
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#348136 - 07/28/08 04:32 PM Re: Serious Question
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i'll just say Larry Bird, only white guy i could think of.



And I'm the uneducated one?

Listen jackass. I was being serious on this thread about a serious subject. I don't have to be starring in porn or producing or directing or even be a fucking insider or live on a forum to have an opinion on it. Anal sex with anyone who aren't both virgins is more riskier than vaginal sex. So fuck off.




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#348137 - 07/28/08 04:33 PM Re: Serious Question
Bad Habit Offline
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Registered: 01/18/06
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Anal sex with either sex is dangerous and serious risk for HIV. That's why many women prefer only doing girl/girl in porn.



says the woman who's never been on a porn set and receives all her information second hand and through innuendo.


Quote:

But you have these ignorant religious girls back home in their small towns proclaiming they are still virgins all because they don't have vaginal sex but they do everything else - oral and anal. Just because they can't get pregnant that way.



Medical Definition of Virginity: Hymen intact.
So, technically speaking, yes, have all the anal and oral you want, you're still a virgin.


Quote:

They had sex parties and gang bangs mixed with drugs and alcohol (several were rape)



You seem to have an obsession with rape. Sounds like you need a good dicking.


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Does another HIV outbreak have to happen again for the industry to open their eyes?



So, in the only instance in well over a decade, one lying tranny-fucker infecting one other person constitutes an outbreak?
I'll put industry stats against the general population anytime. The pw's I fuck are tested routinely, when was the last time your infected ass was tested for anything (including intelligence)?
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#348138 - 07/28/08 04:36 PM Re: Serious Question
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Anal sex with anyone who aren't both virgins is more riskier than vaginal sex. So fuck off.








really? you think so? so let me ask you... given the choice of an HIV- man fucking you in the ass... or Darren James giving you a good drilling in your cunt... which would you prefer?

the world isn't cut and dry bitch.
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#348139 - 07/28/08 04:41 PM Re: Serious Question
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Quote:



Quote:

Does another HIV outbreak have to happen again for the industry to open their eyes?



So, in the only instance in well over a decade, one lying tranny-fucker infecting one other person constitutes an outbreak?
I'll put industry stats against the general population anytime. The pw's I fuck are tested routinely, when was the last time your infected ass was tested for anything (including intelligence)?




no shit... and it barely qualifies as an outbreak as few were infected, especially considering the chain of exposure... thus proving how hard it is to actually transmt.. considering Kayla Marie should have logically contracted it if it was easy to do so. not to mention it was quickly contained. The industry handled it just fine... Condoms sometimes fail, testing works, end of story.
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#348140 - 07/28/08 04:43 PM Re: Serious Question
Anonymous
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You seem to have an obsession with rape. Sounds like you need a good dicking.






Quote:

The pw's I fuck are tested routinely, when was the last time your infected ass was tested for anything (including intelligence)?





BH, in the future, I'm going to have to ask you to limit yourself to just one sig-worthy comment per post. Thanks.

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#348141 - 07/28/08 04:44 PM Re: Serious Question
Bad Habit Offline
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And I'm the uneducated one?

I don't have to be starring in porn or producing or directing or even be a fucking insider or live on a forum to have an opinion on it.




Translation: I don't have to know a single thing about the subject to have an opinion on it.

It takes a certain kind of hubris to announce that you are completely ignorant on a specific subject yet still willing to give an opinion on it (and insanely argue your point) in a worldwide forum.

You MUST have "Moron" tattooed on your forehead.
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#348142 - 07/28/08 04:48 PM Re: Serious Question
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You MUST have "Moron" tattooed on your forehead.




if she doesnt, i'm sure it could easily be put there... though branding sounds better imo.
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#348143 - 07/28/08 04:49 PM Re: Serious Question
Richard Hungwell Offline
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Registered: 02/24/06
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Jesus fucking Christ,,,,,Now this place a fucking medical forum..Fucking hilarious,,

Your asking this group of fucking retards,,,Six posts in and these fucking tards are arguing about something that has nothing to do even with topic..

Why don,t you tell us in about two-three years when your down to 80 pounds and have one foot in the grave..Whether it was man-ass or not....

What a stupid fucking question,,give the noodle a shake buddy
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#348144 - 07/28/08 04:54 PM Re: Serious Question
Darrah Offline
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Posts: 1621
Loc: Hell
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Condoms sometimes fail, testing works, end of story.



What testing? The testing that only tests for HIV and AIDS. But you can still work with other STDs which leads to so many future issues like infertility.

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#348145 - 07/28/08 04:59 PM Re: Serious Question
freestylah Offline
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Registered: 12/28/07
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Infertility in porn is a God sent. Thank you. Play on.
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#348146 - 07/28/08 05:03 PM Re: Serious Question
6655321 Offline
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Registered: 01/16/07
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Quote:

Quote:

Condoms sometimes fail, testing works, end of story.



What testing? The testing that only tests for HIV and AIDS. But you can still work with other STDs which leads to so many future issues like infertility.





..........

oh my fucking dark lord... what the fuck... how do you even... do you have to wear a helmet... i mean... research..

sorry, your ignorance knocked me incapable of forming sentences for a second there.

You are a failure of a journalist, i kinda liked cindi.. but my opinion of her is lowered by the fact that she has you writing for her, that blurb alone should be a good enough reason to kick you to the curb where you belong with the rest of the worthless trash.

HIV is NOT the only thing tested for.

Gonorrhea, and Chlamydia monthly and Syphilis testing usually every 3-6 months.

and you cannot test for HIV AND AIDS... in fact you cannot test for AIDS as AIDS is actually any combination of opportunistic infections that occur as a result of a lowered immune system as a result of HIV infection.

It really does help to learn something about subject before you make yourself look like an ass blabbing off on em. ESPECIALLY if you have the nerve to refer to yourself as a journalist.
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#348147 - 07/28/08 05:10 PM Re: Serious Question
Darrah Offline
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Registered: 07/07/08
Posts: 1621
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But they can still work with those STDs except for HIV or AIDS.

Whatever. Fuck you. I hope your penis gets bitten off by rabid dogs and your only interaction with anyone is a blowup doll. Good night.



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#348148 - 07/28/08 05:12 PM Re: Serious Question
Jigaloo Offline
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I stilll hope you die Dartha.
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#348149 - 07/28/08 05:13 PM Re: Serious Question
6655321 Offline
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But they can still work with those STDs except for HIV or AIDS.

Whatever. Fuck you. I hope your penis gets bitten off by rabid dogs and your only interaction with anyone is a blowup doll. Good night.







no, they fucking well can't... they have to take medication, get retested and come back with a clean test before they can work you ignorant cunt.
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#348150 - 07/28/08 05:14 PM Re: Serious Question
cameronkeys Offline
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Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 997
Loc: FL
Quote:

Quote:

Condoms sometimes fail, testing works, end of story.



What testing? The testing that only tests for HIV and AIDS. But you can still work with other STDs which leads to so many future issues like infertility.




Are you kidding?? I get full panel AIM tested for everything...NOT just HIV. And so does everyone else I've ever met. And NO studio worth their salt will hire you if ANYTHING comes up positive...not to mention that I (and again..everyone else I've worked with) will refuse to shoot with you if you are positive for anything. NOT just HIV.

Where are you getting your info???
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#348151 - 07/28/08 05:18 PM Re: Serious Question
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You MUST have "Moron" tattooed on your forehead.




This is a muliple choice quote fixing post feel free to pick between the following.

A. You MUST have "Maroon" tattooed on your head.
B. You MUST have "Morin" tattooed on your head.
C. You MUST have "Moor on" tattooed on your head.
D. You MUST have "More on" tattooed on your head.
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#348152 - 07/28/08 05:19 PM Re: Serious Question
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Condoms sometimes fail, testing works, end of story.



What testing? The testing that only tests for HIV and AIDS. But you can still work with other STDs which leads to so many future issues like infertility.




Are you kidding?? I get full panel AIM tested for everything...NOT just HIV. And so does everyone else I've ever met. And NO studio worth their salt will hire you if ANYTHING comes up positive...not to mention that I (and again..everyone else I've worked with) will refuse to shoot with you if you are positive for anything. NOT just HIV.

Where are you getting your info???




imaginationland... apparently.
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#348153 - 07/28/08 05:44 PM Re: Serious Question
Fuk Yo Mama Offline
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Registered: 03/07/06
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Are you kidding?? I get full panel AIM tested for everything...NOT just HIV. And so does everyone else I've ever met. And NO studio worth their salt will hire you if ANYTHING comes up positive...not to mention that I (and again..everyone else I've worked with) will refuse to shoot with you if you are positive for anything. NOT just HIV.

Where are you getting your info???




Cameron, I've mentioned in this thread that herpes is said to be rampant in the business. I've also heard about other STD's being widespread. So if everybody is getting tested for everything, why do all the herpes infected performers still get work?

Not a judgment, just a question.
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#348154 - 07/28/08 06:51 PM Re: Serious Question
Bill Hicks Offline
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But they can still work with those STDs except for HIV or AIDS.




Are you shitting me? You're attempting to be a journalist and you haven't even done the most basic research?? Fuck, I'm not even tangentially in the industry and I knew that AIM goes full-panel.

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#348155 - 07/28/08 06:58 PM Re: Serious Question
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I have a serious question that I would love to know the medical answer to. As in proof or a concrete answer, rather than conjecture or prejudice. I value your opinions on this forum more so than others, because I think you guys speak more freely on the subject.

Here is my question....

is there a medical difference in the risk of transmitting HIV from male-male anal sex vs. male-female anal sex.

assuming i work with a female who is HIV positive and have anal sex vs. working with a male who is HIV positive and have anal sex....am I more likely to catch HIV from either gender or is it the exact same risk? Is that scenario clear enough to decipher?

Flame away if you wish, but I would love to hear actual factual answers if possible. Thanks for your help.





You fucken idiots do realize he's just trolling for new partners here.. right?
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#348156 - 07/28/08 07:42 PM Re: Serious Question
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Where are you getting your info???




i'm guessing here


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#348157 - 07/28/08 07:48 PM Re: Serious Question
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You fuckin idiots do realize he's just trying to make me jealous here.. right?




FIXED!

:P
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#348158 - 07/28/08 08:05 PM Re: Serious Question
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Posts: 997
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Quote:

Quote:


Are you kidding?? I get full panel AIM tested for everything...NOT just HIV. And so does everyone else I've ever met. And NO studio worth their salt will hire you if ANYTHING comes up positive...not to mention that I (and again..everyone else I've worked with) will refuse to shoot with you if you are positive for anything. NOT just HIV.

Where are you getting your info???




Cameron, I've mentioned in this thread that herpes is said to be rampant in the business. I've also heard about other STD's being widespread. So if everybody is getting tested for everything, why do all the herpes infected performers still get work?

Not a judgment, just a question.



I have no idea honestly... some people have no standards or qualms with working with anyone infected. I do not. And I get tested for it regularly.I wont work with anyone who tests positive for it.Though nothing is 100% which is why I make sure I get tested for it.

And Darrah...like I said in response to your PM that every porn performer has STD's....dont believe everything you hear or read hon. Unless you are an insider and actually SEE this stuff with your own eyes and therefore, know what you are talking about. People have their own agendas when spouting off..thats the first thing you should learn if you have aspirations of journalism.
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#348159 - 07/28/08 08:30 PM Re: Serious Question
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#348160 - 07/28/08 08:38 PM Re: Serious Question
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Anal sex with either sex is dangerous and serious risk for HIV. That's why many women prefer only doing girl/girl in porn.

But you have these ignorant religious girls back home in their small towns proclaiming they are still virgins all because they don't have vaginal sex but they do everything else - oral and anal. Just because they can't get pregnant that way. But that's the most risky way of transmitting STDs. A few years ago I was watching this PBS documentary on this affluent small town that caught the CDC's attention for the highest rate of STDs in the country among junior high and high school students as young as 10 years old. They had sex parties and gang bangs mixed with drugs and alcohol (several were rape) but the girls still proclaimed they were virgins because they didn't have vaginal sex. But those were the girls and boys that had now had STDs and they hadn't graduated high school yet.

Just use a condom and you'll be able to sleep better at night. Does another HIV outbreak have to happen again for the industry to open their eyes?







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#348161 - 07/28/08 10:56 PM Re: Serious Question
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Where are you getting your info???




i'm guessing here





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#348162 - 07/28/08 11:05 PM Re: Serious Question
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But they can still work with those STDs except for HIV or AIDS.

Whatever. Fuck you. I hope your penis gets bitten off by rabid dogs and your only interaction with anyone is a blowup doll. Good night.






Wow. Just wow.
Are you being serious, and you believe what you just wrote?
No disrepect intended.. but thats simply ignorant. If a performer comes up with a hot test for gonorrhea or chlamydia they are NOT going to be working until they get treated and are retested with clean results.
No company will let it happen, no other performer will agree to intentionally work with someone thats hot. No performer who is even halfway a decent human being would intentionaly work with someone knowing they were infecting them!
No, they CAN NOT still work with other STD's. Listen close, and listen well... YOU ARE WRONG!! try fact checking next time please... statements like this infuriate me.
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#348163 - 07/28/08 11:09 PM Re: Serious Question
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Serious Question




that's not allowed here

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#348164 - 07/28/08 11:54 PM Re: Serious Question
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Tiffany Minx son is going to perform soon....

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#348165 - 07/28/08 11:59 PM Re: Serious Question
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Tiffany Minx son is going to perform soon....




Thanx, Darrah! I had no idea.
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#348166 - 07/29/08 12:00 AM Re: Serious Question
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I have a serious question that I would love to know the medical answer to. As in proof or a concrete answer, rather than conjecture or prejudice. I value your opinions on this forum more so than others, because I think you guys speak more freely on the subject.

Here is my question....

is there a medical difference in the risk of transmitting HIV from male-male anal sex vs. male-female anal sex.

assuming i work with a female who is HIV positive and have anal sex vs. working with a male who is HIV positive and have anal sex....am I more likely to catch HIV from either gender or is it the exact same risk? Is that scenario clear enough to decipher?

Flame away if you wish, but I would love to hear actual factual answers if possible. Thanks for your help.






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#348167 - 07/29/08 01:24 AM Re: Serious Question
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Any PW who reads this post is probably gonna put CXXX on the ol' "NO" list now...
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#348168 - 07/29/08 01:30 AM Re: Serious Question
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So Dan I have a question? So you think that because I am a tranny that I should be "banned" like Evil Angel did anal creampies? I am having a hard time finding the logic!

I can understand your logic with shooting in Brazil but when you say "tranny" in general then I have a problem.




That's precisely my point...there is no logic. In an incident where there were three key factors to the transmission, only one of those factors gets singled out and punished. No doubt if you were a Brazilian and EA declared 'We're still shooting anal creampies and trannies, just not with Brazilians or in Brazil', you'd feel the same way.

My argument is more akin to 'Swear off of all three or don't swear off of any of them'. Personally, I couldn't give a damn whether EA shoots anal creampies or not...it's just that the logic of their decision seems flawed and arbitrary.

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As a transsexual Performer HERE IN THE U.S, I am tested via A.I.M before shooting SO with that being said its hard for me to follow the logic that because transsexuals in Brazil are a higher risk than ALL tranny shoots should be banned!




In a hypothetical situation, say if someone was holding a gun to my mother's head and ordering me to fuck a tranny, then I'd definitely have to go with the US-based, AIM-tested version rather than the one from a developing country with a test of dubious provenance and authenticity.

However, this overlooks the fact that everyone in this industry is only as safe as the weakest link in the chain. Perhaps you only work with US-based performers, but can the same be said for those performers? Some producers will fly to Brazil to shoot, some will fly Brazilian talent in, and suddenly you have a whole other talent pool to worry about. In the US, it's not difficult for a producer to know the ins and outs of the straight talent pool...people talk on and offline. You know which performers are going to be difficult to work with, which ones are likeliest to flake, which ones are likeliest to have an STD come up, which ones do privates, which ones do drugs heavily etc.

This is not so much the case with the gay and tranny talent pools, and even less so when you're talking foreign gay and tranny talent pools. Maybe people like Joey Silvera or Chi Chi LaRue might have an idea or know who to ask, but the other 99.9% of the straight industry don't.

The fact is that with the exception of the Marc Wallice outbreak, all of the more recent cases of HIV in the industry have had certain hallmarks:

1) Stagliano: Brazil, Tranny, Anal, Creampie
2) Darren James: Brazil, double anal creampie w/ performer worked w/ tranny
3) Lara Roxx, Jessica Dee, Ms. Arroyo: Anal/Double anal creampie w/ James
4) Some 'straight' male performer in E. Europe who got it doing a gay private.

Certain keywords keep popping up.

Now you can see why some people are reticent to see the talent pools crossover, even moreso with performers who are still regularly crossing over in their private and professional lives.


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Just trying to understand thats all, not here to argue or be rude!




No problem, nice to see someone capable of having a discussion without resorting to name-calling and throwing their toys out of the pram.

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