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#346018 - 08/21/08 10:50 PM
Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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oh yeah Jimby you arent a republican tho hahah
I don't have to be a republican to dislike Obama. Unlike you, I have a mind of my own.
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you need to look at the number of registered voters state per state...
I've actually worked Presidential campaigns for Democratic candidates while you sat around jerking off to Kos and know electoral math better than you ever will. What the fuck are you trying to say here?
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nice use of the ONE poll that has had McSame over Obama...
So you're saying that MSNBC, home of Keith Olberman, shills for McCain?
You been drinking again?
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#346020 - 08/22/08 12:04 AM
Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/16/07
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re reading all of it again, your right papercut... we cannot directly attribute #4 to McCain, but we can assert from the whole collection that he is a cyborg sent from the future to start Judgment Day.
(they just replaced the "flying planes" program with the "senior moments" and "loose lips" programs...)
I'm calling John Conner
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#346021 - 08/22/08 07:33 AM
Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
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How John McCain is Going to Win...
By letting Obama be Obama.
McCain takes 5-point lead over Obama
WASHINGTON - In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.
McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama's solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll.
The reversal follows a month of attacks by McCain, who has questioned Obama's experience, criticized his opposition to most new offshore oil drilling and mocked his overseas trip.
The poll was taken Thursday through Saturday as Obama wrapped up a weeklong vacation in Hawaii that ceded the political spotlight to McCain, who seized on Russia's invasion of Georgia to emphasize his foreign policy views.
"There is no doubt the campaign to discredit Obama is paying off for McCain right now," pollster John Zogby said. "This is a significant ebb for Obama."
McCain now has a 9-point edge, 49 percent to 40 percent, over Obama on the critical question of who would be the best manager of the economy -- an issue nearly half of voters said was their top concern in the November 4 presidential election...
McCain has been on the offensive against Obama during the last month over energy concerns, with polls showing strong majorities supporting his call for an expansion of offshore oil drilling as gasoline prices hover near $4 a gallon.
Obama had opposed new offshore drilling, but said recently he would support a limited expansion as part of a comprehensive energy program.
That was one of several recent policy shifts for Obama, as he positions himself for the general election battle. But Zogby said the changes could be taking a toll on Obama's support, particularly among Democrats and self-described liberals.
"That hairline difference between nuance and what appears to be flip-flopping is hurting him with liberal voters," Zogby said.
Obama's support among Democrats fell 9 percentage points this month to 74 percent, while McCain has the backing of 81 percent of Republicans. Support for Obama, an Illinois senator, fell 12 percentage points among liberals, with 10 percent of liberals still undecided compared to 9 percent of conservatives.
Obama needs to work on base
"Conservatives were supposed to be the bigger problem for McCain," Zogby said. "Obama still has work to do on his base. At this point McCain seems to be doing a better job with his."
The dip in support for Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, cut across demographic and ideological lines. He slipped among Catholics, born-again Christians, women, independents and younger voters. He retained the support of more than 90 percent of black voters.
"There were no wild swings, there isn't one group that is radically different than last month or even two months ago. It was just a steady decline for Obama across the board," Zogby said.
Obama's support among voters between the ages of 18 and 29, which had been one of his strengths, slipped 12 percentage points to 52 percent. McCain, who will turn 72 next week, was winning 40 percent of younger voters.
"Those are not the numbers Obama needs to win," Zogby said about Americans under 30. The 47-year-old is counting on a strong turnout among young voters, a key bloc of support during his primary battle with New York Sen. Hillary Clinton.
It made little difference when independent candidate Ralph Nader and Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, who are both trying to add their names to state ballots.
McCain still held a 5-point edge over Obama, 44 percent to 39 percent, when all four names were included. Barr earned 3 percent and Nader 2 percent.
I'm willing to bet that if the tables were turned MSNBC would have used the words criticisms and campaigned instead of attacks and on the offensive. Also can anyone here explain to me why the part I put in bold type needed to be mentioned in this story. It is not in one bit germane to the topic and would not change the context of the story in anyway if it was omitted. Except that it plants a subtle unspoken accusation of racism at the voters that have backed off of Obama.
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#346022 - 08/22/08 12:03 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/23/06
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The dip in support for Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, cut across demographic and ideological lines. He slipped among Catholics, born-again Christians, women, independents and younger voters. He retained the support of more than 90 percent of black voters.
...Also can anyone here explain to me why the part I put in bold type needed to be mentioned in this story...Except that it plants a subtle unspoken accusation of racism at the voters that have backed off of Obama.
it's mentioned a lot because it's a big, important deal that people believe that a black guy has a legit shot to actually win the presidency. it would be hugely historic if he won. (he won't, though, so don't lose sleep about what might happen) acknowledging that has nothing to do with accusing you of being racist.
y'all are some eagle-eye motherfuckers when it comes to finding and exposing examples of the media's bias against rich white men, but it's weird to me how you seem to have no problem swallowing whole the image of black folks you are fed. 
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#346023 - 08/22/08 03:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
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If the story was titled "Black Man Has Chance to Make History" or "Black Man Could Become President" then pointing out that Obama is black would be relevant. But this story is about McCain closing ground on Obama. Unless they are inferring that McCain closed the gap because Obama is black his race is irrelevant. Would it have made any sense to say "McCain, who would be the 43rd white man to become president, ...." in the article?
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#346024 - 08/22/08 03:55 PM
Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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it's mentioned a lot because it's a big, important deal that people believe that a black guy has a legit shot to actually win the presidency. it would be hugely historic if he won. (he won't, though, so don't lose sleep about what might happen) acknowledging that has nothing to do with accusing you of being racist.
y'all are some eagle-eye motherfuckers when it comes to finding and exposing examples of the media's bias against rich white men, but it's weird to me how you seem to have no problem swallowing whole the image of black folks you are fed.
FWIW, if Obama performs no other service to his country, he's made it a lot easier for a responsible black Democrat to run in the future. But equating dislike of Obama with racism per se is as intellectually lazy and as knee-jerk a reaction as eblab equating it with being a Republican.
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#346025 - 08/22/08 07:04 PM
Re: How John McCain is Going to Win...
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/23/06
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But equating dislike of Obama with racism per se is as intellectually lazy and as knee-jerk a reaction as eblab equating it with being a Republican.
i'm not doing this, so why are you telling it to me?
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...Would it have made any sense to say "McCain, who would be the 43rd white man to become president, ...." in the article?
i'd say no, because like every president ever has been a white male, so it isn't notable in the least. it's the default setting. mentioning it isn't giving obama a special advantage, i don't believe, but we seem to disagree on that.
there seems to be the sentiment on this board that if black folks think something is unfair they should just shut their trap, suck it up and deal with it, because that's what white people do when the going gets tough. where exactly does that viewpoint disappear to when you believe white people are treated unfairly? 
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#346026 - 08/22/08 09:35 PM
Obama/Biden
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/16/07
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you read it here first. unless ive been red herring-ed in which case its Chet Edwards.
im offically a better journalist than Durrah
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#346027 - 08/22/08 10:17 PM
Re: Obama/Biden
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Registered: 07/07/08
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you read it here first. unless ive been red herring-ed in which case its Chet Edwards.
im offically a better journalist than Durrah
You're porn's version of Enzo Biagi?
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#346030 - 08/22/08 10:55 PM
McCain/Whoever he picks
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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You heard it here first- whoever McCain picks and McCain will win.
You heard it here MONTHS in advance.
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#346031 - 08/22/08 10:55 PM
Re: Obama/Biden
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
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Hell, I was saying that in my department Friday morning, and my co-workers said "wuh?"
He's an attack dog (ala Bush's Cheney in 2000) and quite learned in foreign affairs.
However, he runs his mouth off before he thinks, and will provide more distracting "talking points" for the corporate media to harp on as distractions from the core issues (i.e. Republican Party as the Wrecking Crew*)
*-http://www.amazon.com/Wrecking-Crew-How-Conservatives-Rule/dp/0805079882
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#346032 - 08/22/08 11:18 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/16/07
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it was mostly down to Biden or C. Edwards. Edwards sadly for him was knocked out of the running in the end due in part to the actions of another Edwards and the Obama campaign not wanting voters to confuse the two at the polls. Biden of course also got the advantage among senior campaign staff because of his age, foreign affairs experience and because he provides a great counterpoint to McCain.
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#346033 - 08/23/08 06:49 AM
Re: McCain/Whoever he picks
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#346035 - 08/23/08 02:29 PM
Re: McCain/Whoever he picks
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Porn Fucking Master
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white republican types and some democrats hate jews way more than blacks.
no way, we hate the nigs waaay more. like not even a contest, really.
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#346036 - 08/23/08 04:38 PM
Re: McCain/Whoever he picks
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/21/07
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You heard it here first- Lieberman and McCain wont win because white republican types and some democrats hate jews way more than blacks.
You heard it here MONTHS in advance.
If McCain picks a jew it's going to be Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor, he's from a state McCain needs to win, 45 years old and super pro-Israel(white republican's love supporting Israel).
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#346037 - 08/24/08 12:14 PM
Re: McCain/Whoever he picks
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
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I've flip-flopped. I said earlier that McCain would win... I now think Obama will lose. I can't believe what a pompous, self-absorbed ass Obama is. 1) He's campaigned for 'change' since day one, then he picks a VP that's been in office since most of us were in diapers. Sounds pretty status-qou to me and everyone else. 2) He fucks over Hillary (not that I support her) who holds the keys to 18 million votes. 5.4 million wouldn't commit to supporting Obama until he made his VP choice (Hillary) and 3.6 million already say they will vote McCain. If NObama really wanted to be sitting in the Oval Office come November, he would have picked Hillary and won by a landslide. What I'd really like to see is McCain go across party lines and pick Hillary as VP - just to make things more interesting since both candidates are BORING!  Democrats would cry foul, Republicans would just plain cry. 
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#346038 - 08/24/08 01:47 PM
Re: McCain/Whoever he picks
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/21/07
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I've flip-flopped. I said earlier that McCain would win... I now think Obama will lose.
I can't believe what a pompous, self-absorbed ass Obama is.
1) He's campaigned for 'change' since day one, then he picks a VP that's been in office since most of us were in diapers. Sounds pretty status-qou to me and everyone else.
2) He fucks over Hillary (not that I support her) who holds the keys to 18 million votes. 5.4 million wouldn't commit to supporting Obama until he made his VP choice (Hillary) and 3.6 million already say they will vote McCain.
If NObama really wanted to be sitting in the Oval Office come November, he would have picked Hillary and won by a landslide.
What I'd really like to see is McCain go across party lines and pick Hillary as VP - just to make things more interesting since both candidates are BORING!
Democrats would cry foul, Republicans would just plain cry.
If Obama picked Hillary as his Veep the chances that Dion would be adding a verse to "Abraham, Martin & John" in September 2010, would sit at about 85%.
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#346040 - 08/24/08 11:20 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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...And you especially do not pick one that wants the job more than you do and has more stroke with the Secret Service than you do.
I'm not quite sure what you mean but there is no love for the Clintons among the secret service. None at all.
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#346041 - 08/25/08 01:03 AM
Re: McCain/Whoever he picks
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
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Good. If I was in Obama's shoes and had Hillary as a VP I would be giving all my speeches and press conferences on a trampoline. I would have figured as slick as the Clintons are they could come up with a way to make sure someone in the S.S. had to scratch their nose at just the right time.
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#346047 - 08/27/08 07:46 AM
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Porn Jesus
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I dont understand about the way they do it. Why do they wait so long to pick a vice president running mate? If the pres dies this person will be the next pres, why do they give us only 2 months to get to know him and dig up dirt on him??
So we only have months to get to know him and dig up dirt on him.
Duh.
What do you mean DUH? Why do we have to watch McCain and Obama for fucking months upon months prior to elections and not the vice? Makes no sense to me.
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#346048 - 08/27/08 05:45 PM
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Porn Jesus
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No one goes into the election cycle with the goal of running for vice-president. They either want the whole enchilada or none of it. You have to wait until after some of the crap has been filtered out of the election water when some of the candidates realize that their only chance is to get a VP nomination then hope for a landing gear malfunction on Air Force One.
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#346050 - 08/29/08 09:39 AM
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#346053 - 08/29/08 10:27 AM
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#346054 - 08/29/08 10:32 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/05/08
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niiiiiiiiice, 80's style.
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#346055 - 08/29/08 10:59 AM
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I think McCain has already signed his defeat by selecting her; does America really want a possible president when McCain's one blocked blood vessel away from a stroke who has the same drawl as the chick from "Frago?" What a totally baffling choice; I think he would have had a helluva lot better chance choosing that milk face Mitt Romney at this point.  Ali G on a woman president vs. Saddam Hussein: Quote:
But ain't there the problem that if he declares war that she'll start crying and everything?
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#346056 - 08/29/08 11:15 AM
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I think McCain has already signed his defeat by selecting her...
On the contrary. She's a known reformer who took down her entrenched, corrupt predecessor (who was also a Republican.) She has executive experience as Mayor and Governor vs. Obama's experience as a part-time legislator. And her eldest son is scheduled to be deployed to Iraq in about two weeks. I don't see what you're getting at here.
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#346059 - 08/29/08 11:37 AM
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Registered: 01/16/07
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I think McCain has already signed his defeat by selecting her...
On the contrary. She's a known reformer who took down her entrenched, corrupt predecessor (who was also a republican.) She has executive experience as Mayor and Governor vs. Obama's experience as a part-time legislator. And her eldest son is scheduled to be deployed to Iraq in about two weeks. I don't see what you're getting at here.
*cough* 2 years experience. Governor of a state with a population of less than most cities.
Sorry... this was a mistake for McCain and I for one am grateful he made it. She will be killed by Biden in the Debate, as McCain will be eaten alive by Obama.
Not to mention these two in the whitehouse would be a civil rights nightmare. Bye bye freedom of speech, expression, press, etc... Bring on more corporatism, warmongering, and the evangelical theocracy. Praise jesus or you are a traitor and a terrorist.. 
You want more prosecutions in porn... fine vote for these two. Wait till vivid gets that obscenity indictment. Have the last 8 yrs taught you nothing, have Rob Black, Max Hardcore, Jeff, etc taught you nothing.
If ignorance is bliss then, politically, sometimes i think this board is the happiest place on earth.
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#346060 - 08/29/08 11:51 AM
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2 years experience. Governor of a state with a population of less than most cities.
Yep. Two years more experience than Obama the part-time legislator has.
And honestly, I don't see either McCain or Pallin being anywhere near as bad on Civil Liberties as Bush was. Certainly not in terms of obscenity prosecutions. That was Bush and his "evangelical theocrats."
Speaking of which, last I checked, the bible-thumpers loathed McCain. Don't know where you're getting your news from, but it must be a "blissful" place, indeed.
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#346061 - 08/29/08 12:02 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
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she is an evangelical. and mccain has something to prove to the evangelicals if he wants to get elected by them. guarantee they will keep with a conservative AG.
This would be a disaster for this country.
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#346062 - 08/29/08 12:11 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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She was a good get. Strong chance of picking up some of Hillarys 18 million votes. What's not to love...
Married her high school sweetheart.
Husband is a fisherman, works for BP and is a long time union member. Is also a champion snowmobiler.
Has five kids. Eldest joined the Army on 9/11 last year and ships out to Iraq on 9/11 this year.
Of the five kids, the youngest has Downs and she knew this and choose not to end the pregnancy.
Was a Miss Alaska runner up and took the scholarship and went to college to get her Bachelors degree.
Worked with her husband on the fishing boat and survived a wreck in the boat, broke all the fingers in her two hands.
Was a City Council member (two terms, 92-96).
Went on to become mayor where she reduced her salary AND reduced property taxes by 60%.
Was on a state commission investigating fraud and cleaned house, regardless of party membership.
Is now governor and has been cleaning house there also. AND, taking on big oil!
As to Obama's campaign committee complaints, she has more fiscal experience than he does AND has as much foreign government experience. She visited Germany also in an official capacity and she DID visit the troops and the troops in the hospitals.
While Obama spent most of the time on the bench in the championship game for his school, her free shot won the championship for her high school basketball team. She did it with a stress fracture.
If I didn't know better I'd think McCain had selected Bad Habit!
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#346063 - 08/29/08 12:12 PM
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Gay For Pay
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I still think McCain should have gone with Pawlenty and put five different states in the mid-west in strong contention. What's Palin's big claim to fame? She took down Ted fucking Steven's business partner/senate/governor friend? Picking someone as unknown as her is going to put the media on his trail and they're going to pick up on every bumbling trip McCain takes down a grocery aisle from here on out. McCain's touting his "bipartisanship" but that's not what his base wants to hear; it might be realistic given the Dem's control of Congress, but I think turn-out is going to be the big factor on election day. McCain is not going to get the bible thumpers out there, and even then the 1-2% of people who are going to go with Bob Barr or write in Ron Paul are going to further erode him. My prediction: Obama 53%, McCain 45%. Electoral win by 50-60 points. She also has a son with Down Syndrome...hasn't eight years with one retard in the White House been enough? 
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#346064 - 08/29/08 12:16 PM
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This would be a disaster for this country.
As big a disaster as surrendering to the muslims? As big as appeasing Ahmadinijad and Khameni on the nuclear issue?
As much as the prospect of Rudy G. as Attorney General scares me, these things scare me a hell of a lot more.
Besides, if Bush hasn't been able to shut down the industry by now, what makes you think McCain is going to. So far, the fundies won one with Max, lost BIG TIME with Jeff and have gone nowhere with your pal Rob Black. I don't see their record improving much. Sorry, Rob.
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#346065 - 08/29/08 12:32 PM
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they're going to pick up on every bumbling trip McCain takes down a grocery aisle from here on out.
I'm pretty sure that the only people who paid attention to that clip are Gunker and elaborator. It doesn't resonate with the public like Ford falling down the stairs, or Bush the Elder not knowing how the checkout line worked.
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McCain's touting his "bipartisanship" but that's not what his base wants to hear; it might be realistic given the Dem's control of Congress, but I think turn-out is going to be the big factor on election day. McCain is not going to get the bible thumpers out there, and even then the 1-2% of people who are going to go with Bob Barr or write in Ron Paul are going to further erode him.
So who exactly are the bible-thumpers going to vote for? Obama? Please Stevie. That would be their worst nightmare come true. And they're sure as hell not going to chance it by voting for Barr, or any other fringe candidate. They know what Nader cost Gore in 2000.
Fact is, the die hards on both sides would vote for their respective parties if Pol Pot and Franco were the candidates. This is going to come down to the undecideds, and, with them in mind, this is a smart move.
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She also has a son with Down Syndrome...hasn't eight years with one retard in the White House been enough?
Right, because a four-month-old infant has so much influence on affairs of State.
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#346066 - 08/29/08 12:34 PM
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This would be a disaster for this country.
As big a disaster as surrendering to the muslims? As big as appeasing Ahmadinijad and Khameni on the nuclear issue?
As much as the prospect of Rudy G. as Attorney General scares me, these things scare me a hell of a lot more.
Besides, if Bush hasn't been able to shut down the industry by now, what makes you think McCain is going to. So far, the fundies won one with Max, lost BIG TIME with Jeff and have gone nowhere with your pal Rob Black. I don't see their record improving much. Sorry, Rob.
once they get one win, they get a precedent. Thats what Robs original point was... that if he could win, then everyone could win.... but if he lost it would set up for the next in line and they slowly whittle down. And yes... they got nowhere with Rob... but they got what they wanted by milking him dry financially.
Are you really drinking the fear kool-aid? There is a middle ground between surrender and antagonism. We can open dialogues and when necessary adjust policies in order to cool the tides of conflict. We can work with the international community rather than be Israels bitch thug patrol. We are a joke in the international community right now...
Do you really think that right NOW we are safer from extremist muslims than we were on 9/11? We have done nothing since that day but stir up MORE hatred and breed more extremism... Now we are staring down the barrel of a new cold war... WHICH MCCAIN WILL AND IS PROUDLY STOKING THE FIRES OF! Who are you more afraid of... Iran having a couple SHORT RANGE, low power nukes that at most will hit Israel? or stirring up a war with a country that has a few THOUSAND ICBM's armed with extremely high power nuclear warheads.
Sorry, i fear AG Rudy G. (or any other choice) and whatever supreme court pick McCain will likely get during his term, way more than i fear Ahmadinijad. The terror in the distance is nothing but a distraction away from the terror in your own home.
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#346067 - 08/29/08 12:42 PM
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Sorry, i fear AG Rudy G... way more than i fear Ahmadinijad.
You can make statements like this, support a would-be messiah, and run around like fringe porn's answer to Chicken Little... and still accuse others of drinking Kool-Aid? 
No wonder you live in Florida.
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