I'm not an obamashipper by any means... but lets look at some of mccains achievements in his life... bottom of his class in the air force, crashed 5 planes including the time he got caught, was happy to talk for better treatment while in the hanoi hilton.... yep... real american hero right there. Though unlike some presidents at least he showed up for his duty (i'm looking at you bill and george).


i will say though... if Obama shifts more toward the fiscal conservative side... and stays socially liberal i will like him much more. He is already almost there.

However.... lets face it... they all are the same and serve the same masters, eh?
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